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Trump pardons former AZ Sheriff Arpaio [convicted of violating civil rights laws]
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Vincent Alexander
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I cannot be convinced this fucking president isn't suffering from some kind of mental illness. I simply cannot make sense of his actions otherwise.
acheron_xl
Member
He's evil.
Evil isn't a mental illness. Evil also isn't only in fiction
I wouldn't even go that far. I'd say he's just selfish without any kind of checks or balances. If he were evil, we'd all be dead by now, since he would have launched the nukes the moment he could. That's ultimate evil. Everything he's done hasn't even been in the service of a greater evil cause, just pure, petty selfishness that can cash cheques on a World Superpower scale.
Monkeyball
Banned
"What would a dick do?"
acheron_xl
Member
You don't have to want to kill everyone on Earth to be evil. He supports cruel policies and cruel people for their cruelty. Everything he does is done in bad faith, and to benefit himself exclusively. It's all pretty evil.
And he sexually assaults women.
Alligatorjandro
Banned
I'm arguing on Facebook with someone saying he wasn't convicted of a crime.
kitsunelaine
Banned
I'm so sorry for your loss.
nintendoman58
Member
Look, you can make the argument that every GOP voter is supporting/endorsing racism in some way. I'm not questioning that.
The reality though, is that that's not what some voters are thinking when they vote GOP. Obviously racists' are gonna racist, but it's also true that people voted for Trump because they just didn't like Hillary, they wanted somebody who wasn't "the usual politician", or a myriad of other reasons that don't have anything to do with a bunch of crazies holding tiki torches.
Now that Hillary's out of the way and Trump has the "experience" under his belt, those factors aren't going to come into play next time.
Trump administration really hell-bent on making me lose every single shred of respect I had for everyone I know in real life right now. This is why liberals are congregating in cities. You're too disgusted with everyone around you cheering on people convicted of illegally targeting hispanics and putting them in concentration camps.
Yeah, you're right.
Well, it's possible : Ford pardoned Nixon.
Chie Satonaka
Member
Heh.
No bottom.
No bottom.
Shadow Puppetry
Member
He wanted to kill us Americans with the ACA.
nintendoman58
Member
You can move the goalposts all you like. It doesn't change the fact that this action will only be popular with about 36% of the country and will not be winning him any points in the long run.
No one's moving goalposts. Trump voters for a white supremacist. Period. You can make all the excuses for them you like, it doesn't change that fact.
Who he is now is exactly who he was during the campaign and everyone could see it clearly.
which is why they'll all be charged with as many state-level crimes as possible
ultracal31
You don't get to bring friends.
As I recall if he does pardon them then they can't plead the fifth?
Officials could just arrest the people, Trump pardon them, and then get them to testify under threat of perjury while not having to worry about the other crimes they committed.
Also this.
He's a racist, sexist, ignorant evil bastard. It's not that hard to understand. People need to stop trying to find other ways to understand trump. Who he is, is on full display. He's been this way for years. People need to stop being in denial. People were trying to tell others for a full year but people did not want to listen. People still don't want to listen and accept who he is.
I agree this is why everyone being looked at by Muller needs to be hit with state level criminal charges if possible. Those can not be pardoned.
UberTag
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Anyone got percentages handy on the number of Germans in the 1930s that were Nazis? Because I bet that number wasn't the majority, either. But the majority sad idly by and let that regime take over all the while saying, "we don't want this" and "we're not the majority" or not even saying it at all because they'd be fucked if they did. And here's a newsflash, most of the nation's institutions from the government to the military to the police force to the media are fully compromised by White supremacists and Nazi sympathizers right now. It doesn't matter what the majority wants or approves of if they've ceded any and all power and influence to a very loud and vindictive vocal minority. The sole saving grace is Trump's incompetence.
theofficefan99
Junior Member
Bruh Trump has narcissistic personality disorder. It is a mental illness. Not an excuse of course, but it explains his inability to love, inability to care for others (except people he can use for his benefit), and his insanely fragile ego, plus his frequent lying and manipulation.
Totally. He was only convicted a few weeks ago on contempt of court, for not following court orders and was due to be sentenced in October. That charge would have been no more than 6 months in jail at the most. You have to wonder if Trump will last long enough to pardon him again if he's found guilty of another of his crimes?
That's insane. Trump is gonna be saving all his friends.
I want to take the reasonable GOP voter's side buy they aren't speaking loudly enough against the heinous things Trump and his supporters are doing. They lack leadership that represents their views. A literal slaver bigot was just pardoned and trans people were just banned from military service today. What stance are we supposed to take?
As our rights are quickly eroding the last thing on my mind are the victims who stand against Trump and his supporters but voted GOP anyway.
StopMakingSense
Member
Racism and white supremacy is the only consistent ideology Trump has ever held throughout his life.
The white privilege in this post is too high
Conciliator
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i know a lot of Trump voters/supporters (I'm in an area like that), and I think that a few of them are actually just really, really, really stupid.
Like one of the endless issues we need to be discussing and figuring out is...well I guess you could call it 'free information literacy.' Just a fundamental ability to be able to sometimes fucking look at something and be able to say "you know, I think this is not reliable information" in a world where there are infinite everythings that say anything. I think probably a frightening % of people are not able to parse anything approaching reality from any media they consume, and they have no idea. You might say "well they should know better," and yes, perhaps they should, but the problem is that they are really, really, really stupid. They basically have to be told what to believe because they literally do not have whatever brain thing lets you connect different facts and come to a meaningful conclusion.
And they literally like Trump because he's stupid like them. They like Trump because he also refuses to acknowledge that anything could be complicated, or that there might be nuances to things that don't reveal themselves after thinking about a topic for 3 seconds and coming up with a memey punchline.
It's the "don't take away my medicare to pay for socialized medicine" people. They just literally don't have any fucking idea what's happening.
I don't know any solution to this other than somehow be better at brainwashing than republicans, good luck with that.
Yeah, if he's not evil he's DOING great evil through absurd levels of incompetence and out of a warped pride, and that's typically the route of evil beyond serial killers and rapists.
theofficefan99
Junior Member
Btw guys honestly how did Trump become a billionaire
His dad gave it to him.
He was born into money
By being born to a wealthy family at the right time in America.
I don't think he is one. I think Mueller is going to find out how much money he has and how he has acquired it over the years. He's been dirty dealing for decades.
Silver spoon oh and let's not forget Russia money bailed him out when he was in a tough spot. 50 million profit real estate deal.
Fenderputty
Banned
That's all this does though, appease his base.
Phew, hope he gets charged again.
Forbes did a calculation on it before at least as far as Trump's assets go:
https://www.forbes.com/donald-trump/#18a46f272899
Now, how much does he owe to Putin?
Swass
Member
I believe it's been confirmed he has never been close to a billionaire, I think it was reported the most he has been worth is like 350 mill. I believe I also read most of the buildings with his name on them are him basically licensing his name to the real owner. The guy has always been a con artist.. even on the apprentice it was reported that the producers told him who to fire via a prompter on the desk.. the guy has been living on his lies his whole life, you don't go bankrupt six times and still have lenders backing you which is allegedly why he looked to the Russians since no one with any sense would loan him money here.
Edit: well the forbes article seems to contradict this, or maybe i misread a zero and he really is worth 3.5 billion.. of course that is net worth and who knows how much debt he has.
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