-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Twin Peaks Season 3 OT |25 Years Later...It Is Happening Again
- Thread starter Sumio Mondo
- Start date
- Status
I feel like I see this request after every episode. It's quite possible "OG Coop" is never coming back. At least not the way you've envisioned. Television/Movie is often predictable. It's so refreshing to watch something that completely flips the script on traditional story telling.
You have to ask yourself, if the reunion was just the same old characters rehashing nostalgic story beats, would the show be nearly as interesting?
Yes! Also I just checked and it's in S2E19 as well, when Briggs is looking at the Owl Cave map in the Sheriff's Department.
We see a hooded figure (a woodsman?), a field of stars, an owl, and then the screen is filled with fire.
There's a surprising amount of consistency between the original show and the new one. They're not just pulling this stuff out of nowhere.
DodgyGeezerFella
Member
What the fuck, that was bonkers.
And why does Badalamenti's music remind me so much of Resident Evil.
And why does Badalamenti's music remind me so much of Resident Evil.
VistraNorrez
Member
Maybe Philip Gerard was one of those people to listen to the radio and have those frogsects climb down his throat.
Slick Butter
Member
Think I should get my mom, who stopped watching the first season once weird stuff started happening, to watch it?
InaudibleWhispa
Member
I think they can use energy (like the multiple cases of lodge inhabitants effecting/using electricity (like Coopers return)) as a bridge to Earth. I don't think the nuke opened the door for the first time, it just created enough energy for mother to take advantage of and create/send Bob.
The Elite
BOSS
Episode is pretty much about a Rift between dimensions opening up and Bob getting through along with the Woodsmen and something else that the Mother from the White Lodge sent that may or may not be Laura Palmer Jesus.
That's one sentence.
That was really something, wasn't it? Loved it.
Dug the NIN performance and the bonkers fusion of all things Lynch in Act II and Act III of that episode. I love how he continues to find ways to astonish and frighten, especially with the absurdly dark and creepy vibe of the last 15 minutes.
The repetition from the Woodsman made that whole scene 10x better.
Dug the NIN performance and the bonkers fusion of all things Lynch in Act II and Act III of that episode. I love how he continues to find ways to astonish and frighten, especially with the absurdly dark and creepy vibe of the last 15 minutes.
The repetition from the Woodsman made that whole scene 10x better.
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
"Oh yeah mom totally! Cooper buys everyone donuts and Audrey comes back...and she marries Cooper! It's hilarious! Yeah yeah...just make you watch it all the way through there's a tiny weird part in the middle of it."
If Coop doesn't come back, just know that Lynch spoiled in his first interview after the premiere lol.
I'm sure you could do something in the vein of you at least seeing how the town and characters have been affected a bit more than what we are getting at the moment. The town has only felt like its only been in this season for like less than 1/4 of the episodes at the moment. I'm not asking this show to be the Force Awakens (that would be bad), but I'm also not going to just accept Lynch being Lynch without feeling a small bit of trepidation about the route that this story is being told. I mean Frost is having to write another book to explain all of this in detail when it might have been told to us onscreen. But again, I suppose we'll find out when this show ends.
The Atticus
Member
Hey btw,
I don't get the Laura = Jesus connection..
Is it just because they both are symbols of purity? And Laura is seemingly sent as a vessel for 'good'?
Laura's story follows the corruption of her imbued purity.
I don't see her as a warrior against universal evil.
I don't get the Laura = Jesus connection..
Is it just because they both are symbols of purity? And Laura is seemingly sent as a vessel for 'good'?
Laura's story follows the corruption of her imbued purity.
I don't see her as a warrior against universal evil.
s_mirage
Member
Yeah, this episode was the first where I can honestly say I didn't really enjoy it. My inquisitiveness over what's coming next gave way to impatience. It wasn't so much the weirdness, it was the pace: it was leaden. Everything was so slow, combined with five pointless minutes of fucking Nine Inch Nails at the beginning of the episode, that it felt like half of the episode was padding. Plus, at this point there seem to be so many plot threads going on that I'm beginning to doubt that this is going to coalesce into anything satisfying.
The 50's stuff at the end was good, and it was intriguing when stuff with meaning was actually happening as opposed to the endless VFX, but many more episodes paced like that and it will lose me.
That's my biggest confusion. Is it Bob? Or is it Laura? Or something else?
The bug was probably either Bob or Laura. As that egg hatching scene was right after the giant sent Laura to earth.
Same, reminded me of Gaspar Noe for sure.
I think she's Bob's folly, but not a symbol of "purity". Did y'all forget that she was hard into drugs and treated almost everyone in her life terribly? lol
People are always trying to draw parallel's between Christianity and every big piece of fiction.
When the glass box monster expels that stream of junk, we see Bob's black blob as well as many speckled eggs.
11 years later, we see one of these speckled eggs hatch in the desert. So I don't think the bug frog is Bob (although I did initally).
The Secret History book heavily implies that Laura's golden orb arriving on earth was the Roswell "UFO crash". And that happened in 1947. So I don't think the bug frog is Laura, either.
I think the bug frog is the thing Evil Coop is searching for.
cucuchu
Member
I would assume BOB is the frog-insect that crawled into the girl's mouth because the lumberjack put everyone to sleep. The lumberjack entities appear to be connected to BOB somehow.
The Atticus
Member
Oh no I get that, but I don't think the Tragedy of Laura Palmer begins with Bob, but rather with the way she allowed her life to derail.
Pitch Black Flint
Member
The whole episode reminded me of William S. Burroughs' take on the atom bomb. "Soul killer" he called it. My theory is the electromagnetic disturbance destroyed lingering souls in the desert of New Mexico, creating a sort of vacancy that allowed the Black Lodge to fill with evil spirits. The White Lodge, alerted to the disturbance too late, was only able to send a single entity of beauty and benevolence; the soul of Laura Palmer. What we can take from this is that Laura is not just your average prom queen beloved by the small town of Twin Peaks. She is a deliberate response from the White Lodge to counteract the growing evil in the world. The fact that she succumbed to the influences of those evil forces and how she is supposed to confront them from the beyond is the question that lingers in my mind. It's gonna be interesting to see how this plays out. Great episode.
When they lady held the golden orb, Laura's face was in it. It gets sent to earth, then shortly after is the bug hatching scene. IT's probably Bob but I get why some might think it was Laura.(I mean just thematically making Laura a bug seems unfitting lol)
The entire crux of this story from the very beginning has been Laura's death and how Bob tormented her in general. In FWIW, Bob's plan all along was to posses her for whatever reason, when she got the green ring that prevented that from happening, Bob(Leland) killed her.
Great point. I'm blanking right now but what is that picture you linked to from??
https://youtu.be/sLPi19uaGiY
Never driving at night again.
Never driving at night again.
Gotta light?
LOL I was just about to post this.
What was the Got A Light? guy saying into the radio mic at the end?
That's what I assumed at first but there's a problem.
When Babalon vomits/"speaks" the stream into existence we see numerous white, oblong eggs. Then we see the black, round egg/sack holding BOB.The egg that hatches in the desert is one of those numerous white eggs. So if that is BOB then Lynch and co. really fucked up in representing it adequately.
Edit: beaten by polishQ. Question though, if you see this. Are you assuming Babalon is the glass box monster or is there evidence for that? They look different enough (based on my recollection. Haven't gone back to check) for me to assume they are two different entities.
Evil Coop shows that to Darya in Part 2 and says "Did you ever see anything like this? This is what I want."
It was some sort of code that caused everyone listening to it to fall asleep-giving the bug a chance to crawl into a host's mouth.
And yeah-this bothers me too.
Straight up occurred to me that we have yet to see James again. I thought Lynch put words in an actress' mouth stating that he was always the coolest like it meant something going forward lol. Like are the Bookhouse Boys still around or what? Also Jennifer Jason Leigh as Chantal is coming back right? Right?
I'm still not sure about the bug being Bob or Laura. I'm thinking neither as well.
It's still a tragedy how they got pressured into solving the Laura case by the network. Just imagine what could've been, structure and story wise if they were allowed to proceed with their true vision.
Edit:
It's still a tragedy how they got pressured into solving the Laura case by the network. Just imagine what could've been, structure and story wise if they were allowed to proceed with their true vision.
Edit:
Nice connection with the song and I like this take on it.
I think at this point we can pretty much assume the characters from the old show for the most part are going to have very small roles in this series. I thought we would have seen more of Bobby by now, considering he is at the police station.
Lots of interesting characters with limited screen time so far. Like the principal from the first two episodes who is arrested.
Emperor_Uriel
Member
I think another facet of the issue with last night's episode is that it's the first time we're experiencing the Lodge directly, and not from another character's point of view.
If we were experiencing this through Cooper, the references to characters like Laura wouldn't have seemed so hokey and jarring, as it's possible that only he was seeing them. This is why Briggs' head floating through space wasn't a point of criticism, but Laura's face appearing in the 1940s flashback was.
Also confusing: Why does the Lodge place so much importance on BOB? The Woodsman can waltz around crushing peoples' heads left and right. I guess he probably doesn't have that freedom further from the blast site, but still.
If we were experiencing this through Cooper, the references to characters like Laura wouldn't have seemed so hokey and jarring, as it's possible that only he was seeing them. This is why Briggs' head floating through space wasn't a point of criticism, but Laura's face appearing in the 1940s flashback was.
Also confusing: Why does the Lodge place so much importance on BOB? The Woodsman can waltz around crushing peoples' heads left and right. I guess he probably doesn't have that freedom further from the blast site, but still.
Woodsman probably can't harvest garmonbozia
I've gotta be honest... I don't think it's a coincidence that the better/more experienced actors (returning or new) are getting the most screen time. As much as we all love Twin Peaks, the standard for acting on television is a MUCH higher bar than it was in 1991.
GurgleBot20
Member
Here's my worthless speculation.
What if the events that were depicted last night past the NiN concert are never referenced in the rest of the series in any capacity?
What if the events that were depicted last night past the NiN concert are never referenced in the rest of the series in any capacity?
A couple of pages back somebody mentioned a clock ticking on this show, which is pretty much how I feel. I really like watching these episodes, yet I feel like time is getting wasted. It's time subtracted from the time we have left with this show. Is it REALLY necessary to have Dougie do the same shit for what must now total around two hours? Are all the subplots important, especially as it now seems there is no way all of them will be brought to conclusions?
The show is great - but the fact that it's made by geniuses doesn't mean it has no flaws.
The show is great - but the fact that it's made by geniuses doesn't mean it has no flaws.
I wouldn't pin it on that. It's more like Lynch is just doing his own thing that doesn't involve a majority of the old cast.
If the show was just about plot, I could maybe agree with you. But I trust that the Dougie material is essential to the underlying meaning of the season.
- Status