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Twin Peaks Season 3 OT |25 Years Later...It Is Happening Again
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Zoe
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Filming was complete by April 2016.
We go back to 1945 and witness an evil God like being (per "Secret History" it is likely the Goddess Babylon) birth BOB and send him and all kinds of vile creations of the Black Lodge out into our universe via the atom bomb.
How else could one see that but an origin story? We go back 1945 and see the creation of Bob. I mean there is a lot of abstract visuals mixed in but that part of it is pretty clear, as clear as it gets in Lynch media.
Frank West
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Very very neat stuff. Secret History references the Access Guide too if I'm not mistaken, so I suppose it's not too surprising this would too.
I really need to get my hands on one of these. Reprint pls.
AHA-Lambda
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Yeah, call me stupid or whatever but that was not clear to me.
And I have no idea what you're talking about regards gods and Babylon and such
31GhostsIV
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Yes?
Do mushrooms with some friends camping out so you have open space around you. I (cough) hear that's a much better experience and nothing like what happened in TP this week.
Babalon is a rather nasty goddess-type creature, that Jack Parsons (a real life Rocket Engineer and Aleister Crowley acolyte) tried to summon. The secret history book brings Parsons into Peaks lore. The bomb was essentially the opening of a pandora's box - the human race couldn't turn back. All of that concentrated evil opened a rift between the dark world and ours, allowing Babalon to vomit evil in our direction, including a certain long-haired man with the fashion sense of Jeremy Clarkson and eggs that apparently contain Frogroaches.
Also in the secret history - 8 woodmen were killed in a fire just outside of Twin Peaks before it became the town we know and love.
plagiarize
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So hey...
lets all point and laugh at Tim Goodman from The Hollywood Reporter for being stupid enough to write this back in March:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ba...d-twin-peaks-as-2017s-weird-show-watch-986474
I say it is time to laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh at him.
lets all point and laugh at Tim Goodman from The Hollywood Reporter for being stupid enough to write this back in March:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ba...d-twin-peaks-as-2017s-weird-show-watch-986474
TimmyTimTims said:
I say it is time to laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh at him.
I don't know, I think the safe bet was that this wouldn't turn out to be great. I was very skeptical, and I'm glad to have been proven so incredibly wrong.
31GhostsIV
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How is Legion? I thought it was an X-Men spin-off so I avoided it as I'm kinda tired of comic properties at this point.
Does Tim Goodman have a Twitter?
plagiarize
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I've heard very good things and plan on watching it.
But underestimating Lynch's ability to create weird and frightening imagery seems really goddamn dumb.
I did tweet something at him. Nothing too mean. He's @BastardMachine
Net_Wrecker
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I mean...... what human with a functioning brain bets against David Lynch in terms of weird atmosphere/visuals. I haven't even seen Legion but that's a bad article.
It would only be a safe bet if you haven't seen Lynch's filmography.
wanderingprostheyltite
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Legion is decent but the characterization was a bit too goofy (yes I see the irony with certain aspects of Peaks) for me, stopped watching during last season.
Remember seeing that article when it came out, gave it an eyeroll and moved on, nothing to get worked up about. Just seemed like standard clickbait garbo.
edit: Nm I was thinking of Preacher for some reason, Legion is indeed good shit, everyone should give it watch.
Remember seeing that article when it came out, gave it an eyeroll and moved on, nothing to get worked up about. Just seemed like standard clickbait garbo.
edit: Nm I was thinking of Preacher for some reason, Legion is indeed good shit, everyone should give it watch.
Zoe
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So it's very likely the song was written for the show.
31GhostsIV
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Highly likely. I was just saying that when it came out I didn't draw the Twin Peaks connection at all, although when Mr & Mrs Reznor appeared on the cast list it became obvious this would be the performed song as (it's the only EP song she features on).
Incidentally, cast list watch:
Trent, Mariqueen and Robin Finck were all on it - Alessandro Cortini and Joey Castillo were not.
Yeah I thought that was crap too.
Frank West
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SuperStiltzkin
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Legion is good. Probably the best superhero show I've watched in that it doesn't necessarily want to be a superhero show.
I really enjoyed Legion. I think both shows challenge their audiences in different ways, but Legion is definitely more accessible and decidedly less "weird" than Twin Peaks The Return. For as trippy and abstract as Legion's narrative can be, there's still a very clear and straightforward metaphor for whats happening on screen in relation to the story. It's a superhero show and everything can be explained through superpowers and X-men. Twin Peaks is a much more intriguing story and world in that respect and demands more of the viewer.
At the end of the day it's still apples to oranges and I find comparing the two shows using "weirdness" as a measure of quality to be a flawed experiment in the first place.
Intheflorsh
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Hawley's a mostly okay showrunner, but thinking he's in the same league as Lynch when it comes to surrealistic visuals is pretty wacky.
That said, I myself was a little skeptical of how the show would turn out (as evidenced by my first post in this thread), so I have no right to point and laugh.
That said, I myself was a little skeptical of how the show would turn out (as evidenced by my first post in this thread), so I have no right to point and laugh.
31GhostsIV
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Observations while listening to TSHOTP
Can the cancer in the show (Log Lady, Tom, Harry) be related to the nuclear waste dumps carried out in the area?
At this point, I feel like Babalon was spewing forth all of the open plot ends left explore in the remaining ten hours.
Can the cancer in the show (Log Lady, Tom, Harry) be related to the nuclear waste dumps carried out in the area?
At this point, I feel like Babalon was spewing forth all of the open plot ends left explore in the remaining ten hours.
Latvian Hitman
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I do have to agree with Miles. I'm not sure if they knew scheduling in advance either, but that episode was certainly something to end on before a break.
31GhostsIV
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This is better https://youtu.be/uSP-ewdJYJc
Wait... someone commented two months ago saying 'Frog Moths'???
One: it's pretty lame to see such a childish narrative "this'll outwierd that..."
Two: if you are going to make that claim then you really shouldn't ever be betting against David Lynch. 18 hours of David Lynch. Herion grade David Lynch to use the apt quote.
I could see where he was coming from, though I personally wouldn't have thought to try to make some dumb definitive battle between the two. Legion was trippy as fuck at times. Obviously the new TP has blown past that in sheer weirdness already but I'm not sure how many people were expecting anything like Chapter 8.
It is an X-Men spinoff but it's 99% its own thing. I thought it was fucking great. And Aubrey Plaza is awesome in it.
wanderingprostheyltite
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Yeah she's fantastic in that role, her and Jemaine Clement are worth the watch alone.
31GhostsIV
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Jemaine? Oh, I'd better watch that. I loved FoTC.
Edit - https://youtu.be/uSP-ewdJYJc start around ten minutes in, Dave starts talking about FROG MOTHS. Been on his mind for a while then. Also mentions a small copper coin.
I can't get over how weird it is that Lynch isn't a film buff. In this long Q&A I'm listening to he says a few times how he almost never watches movies, yet he lives in and loves Hollywood.
For someone with such a grasp of the cinematic language its interesting how he's always been more of a painter without a real passion for films.
For someone with such a grasp of the cinematic language its interesting how he's always been more of a painter without a real passion for films.
The Atticus
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I mentioned this before haha.
He talks about frogmoths as something he saw as a kid in Yugoslavia (?). Obviously just another part of his subconscious coming to the fore in the latest ep.
KO Traveling Hobo
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Frog Moth
Yawgmoth
This is the Magic the Gathering television series I never knew I wanted.
Yawgmoth
This is the Magic the Gathering television series I never knew I wanted.
31GhostsIV
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And coca-cola. Obviously! Plus having a smoke and thinking about all of the little quinoas.
Camper Van Beethoven
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How much of Legion feels like capeshit, because I love Fargo but despise comic book action sequences.
wanderingprostheyltite
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There's few of those, much of it takes place inside the main character's head and exploring those spaces. Far more mindfuck than action. I was surprised with how trippy it managed to be in parts.
SuperStiltzkin
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Zero capeshit. I was hooked on the first episode because it was the first comic book show that felt refreshing and had a unique sense of identity. It has no interest in integrating itself in extended universes. It's its own thing.
Discotheque
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Not much of it. There's a few brief mutant action scenes but it's more about showing trippy shit due to the crazy psychic powers on hand.
Gotta say though Bryan Fuller or Hawley aint got shit on Lynchs work this season imo. That last episode I was in complete awe. Man is a God at unsettling imagery and pulling it out of some simple and sometimes goofy stuff
It is and was a tremendously disrespectful line to take against a consistent innovator of the film form and one of the most significant artists of the past 40 years.
At the time I read that I thought Tim Goodman must live in a total TV bubble to have spat out something so utterly ignorant. He does not deserve a job as chief TV critic for the Hollywood Reporter if he's so uninformed about the father and cousin medium to the one he writes about.
wanderingprostheyltite
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Oh he loves movies, but mostly older stuff. Adores Sunset Boulevard (major inspiration), Fellini, and Bergman.
Frank West
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David Lynch is such a nice troll, I love him. I can't believe there's anyone who doesn't love him. You just have to.
He's a true artist.
And Tati (the influence is all over Dougie's adventures!), Kubrick...
The guy definitely loves movies, but like a lot of veteran filmmakers, he's reached the point where he's bored or simply uninterested in keeping up with what's new for its own sake.
VistraNorrez
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Lynch is also a big Breaking Bad and Mad Men fan.
wanderingprostheyltite
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Yeah pretty much this. Dude just wants to paint at this point. Read an interview with the two guys that filmed him for The Art Life, that's pretty much all he does sunup to sundown, so much so that they asked their contact that got them access if he could get Lynch to do something else for the sake of footage lol.
I love Lynch's story of hearing about Kubrick seeing Eraserhead when it was on the midnight movie circuit and being ecstatic at hearing it was his new favorite film. Supposedly he asked his production team to study it for The Shining, saying that's the feel he wanted to capture throughout. High praise, that.
I caught a few Shining echoes in Inland Empire, so the complement is returned.
plagiarize
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Legion is totally cool and I'm glad no one has decided to slam it in reaction to the rancid ambiotic fluid leaking out of where Tim Goodman's brain is supposed to be.
CharminUltra
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Heh, Eraserhead was my first Lynch movie (if you ignore the scenes I had seen of Dune). That movie sure left an impression on me. I for one never saw movies the same way after that (i.e. I used to consider them just popcorn entertainment with shooting and EXPLOSIONS)
wanderingprostheyltite
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I can see that, went on a Penderecki bender the other day after Part 8 aired and was surprised to see how much of his work was on the Inland soundtrack. Time for a rewatch.
LSD is nothing like this week's TP. Unless you take a shitload in an environment you're utterly unprepared for I suppose, but I can't say one way or the other on that.
It's just as likely to be enjoyable or to take a turn as mushrooms.
Fancy Clown
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The nuclear bomb sequence segueing into that Stan Brackhage bullshit was one of the coolest pieces of television I've ever seen.
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