Frank West
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Please someone make a film poster, lol.
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Twin Peaks Season 3 OT |25 Years Later...It Is Happening Again
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Please someone make a film poster, lol.
I think it's one of the better female roles Lynch has ever had.
Sapiens
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What network is it on?
It's mainstream when you set it against the world of avant garde filmmaking. Although, it's as far from mainstream as you can get with this type of budget.
Bam Bam Baklava
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All I see is overacting when I see her character. Every mundane exchange looks like a drama student auditioning for their big break.
The original run was internationally mainstream in terms of audiences, you have to ask yourself what changed.
That has nothing to do with what he said ?
Season 2 and Fire Walk With Me made sure Twin Peaks wasn't mainstream by the end of its run.
So Season 3 certainly isn't. Which is all he said. He never said it wasn't ever mainstream when it started.
HashtagLapsed
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Season 3 deserves a larger audience but it demands too much of the audience to be really mainstream.
Adam_Vania
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season 3 is the most mainstream delivery of the avant garde to ever hit pop culture.
frankly im super impressed with Showtime for funding this without any demands for maintaining viewer rate. really it doesn't matter if it is popular or not. this will exist for all time.
Twin Peaks was never really mainstream, and if at times it seemed like it was, it was purely by accident
It's a limited series. Something on this scale couldn't be made as it aired, it had to be at least nearly finished before it started airing. They had no choice.
It most definitely was at the heart of the mainstream in early 90s. This is like saying Kanye isn't mainstream because Yeezus is experimental.
CelticKnight
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Those Lodge spirits and their convenience stores.
Sapiens
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Frank West
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edit: I can't see the picture, something went wrong
Bam Bam Baklava
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You're just wrong in multiple threads today aren't you?
plagiarize
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Cultural impact and mainstream have nothing to do with each other. What the series did in the early 90s has nothing to do with whether this limited series is mainstream.
Showtime are showing something that isn't remotely mainstream. Them being Showtime doesn't magically make this show mainstream.
No. It's like saying Yeezus is mainstream because some of his other albums were.
Do you think that isn't intentional?
Adam_Vania
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perhaps for about a year. seasons 1 and 2 aired the bulk of the series in 1990. by the time 1991 rolled around the killer had already been revealed and tv viewers started dropping off. one year later in 1992 FWWM dropped and purposefully torpedoed the mainstream appeal. ever since then it has been a cult hit.
for 1 year it was "the heart of the mainstream" but for the remaining 26 it was not.
Dude is a troll shitposter.
Still won't follow up on that steaming pile of crap he layed in the Trump thread.
VistraNorrez
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Janey-E Jones is a whole lotta grown ass American woman.
And I do not agree with the overacting claims. It's a different style of acting, yes, but it's not overdone. Janey-E, like many women in Lynch productions, is on the edge. She's not meant to be a grounding character. She's a heightened character. Twin Peaks is a world that is often about being pushed to extremes. But I think Watts does some great work taking the negative energy of Janey-E and subtly (yes subtly) turning it positive. It's easy to get lost in that kind of role. There is nothing thankless about the work she is putting in. I'd wager it's much harder than it looks.
And I do not agree with the overacting claims. It's a different style of acting, yes, but it's not overdone. Janey-E, like many women in Lynch productions, is on the edge. She's not meant to be a grounding character. She's a heightened character. Twin Peaks is a world that is often about being pushed to extremes. But I think Watts does some great work taking the negative energy of Janey-E and subtly (yes subtly) turning it positive. It's easy to get lost in that kind of role. There is nothing thankless about the work she is putting in. I'd wager it's much harder than it looks.
Adam_Vania
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just curious who is defining Twin Peaks here? is it David Lynch making Fire Walk With Me, the canonical prequel, in 1991-1992? and then releasing the very ambient and experimental Missing Pieces later on?
or is Twin Peaks defined by TV Guide style articles and blog posts about cofee and cherry pie? things that are in a handful of episodes and take minutes of screentime?
i dont understand why the show must be defined forever by the favorable viewer ratings it got in single year. why the show is considered mainstream despite it getting taken off the air because the mainstream tv viewing audience literally stopped watching.
or is Twin Peaks defined by TV Guide style articles and blog posts about cofee and cherry pie? things that are in a handful of episodes and take minutes of screentime?
i dont understand why the show must be defined forever by the favorable viewer ratings it got in single year. why the show is considered mainstream despite it getting taken off the air because the mainstream tv viewing audience literally stopped watching.
Those woodsmen know how to hotbox like champs. This is what you should do before watching episode 8.No new Twin Peaks this Sunday.
Welp, time to watch Episode 8 for the fifth time.
Now, I don't know shit from shinola but that is one fucked up interpretation. I don't think they are all demonic and wanted to kill and rape Laura. The convenience store was a place for them to congregate. We can't really know what went on there but I doubt is was just evil scheming. I don't think they are all evil. It was mostly Mike and Bob it seems and if Mike was involved he seems to have changed his mind becisue he desperately tries to help Laura at the end of FWWM.
Weekend at Dougies 2. What crazy hijinks will Doop and BOB get into as they travel across the country terrorizing people? Just wanted to add that I think Janey-E is a fantastic character.
Sapiens
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I would argue that something being broadcast on a mainstream network as being mainstream though. It will take a lot more than your own broken logic to convince me otherwise.
plagiarize
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Try looking up the meaning of the word if you're to write off anything I say as 'broken logic'. It's got nothing to do with the network it airs on.
Sorcerer
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Showtime subscriptions/streaming are up substantially because of Twin Peaks. They made a good descion and thank goodness they are letting Lynch do what he wants to do. Hopefully its not David's swan song and he will continue to create.
Like I said before, it feels me with great sadness the fact that we'll never get an Albert & Gordon procedural drama/x-files type spinoff show : (
Not that anything like that was ever announced or even hinted at, but one can dream.
Sapiens
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I'm still not convinced. Twin peaks is a major production with some very recognizable stars backed by a union-based production crew, written and directed by the world renown David Lynch, who has been recognized by BAFTA, The Academy and Cannes. These awards are the result of the industry trying to promote itself through the mainstream.
Showtime even arranged mainstream press for the show.
plagiarize
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Why does whether or not the person is world renown come into it? Why does how recognisable the cast are come into it? Why does whether people who are involved have won awards at some point coming into it? Why does whether or not they are the cover of Entertainment Weekly come into it?I'm still not convinced. Twin peaks is a major production with some very recognizable stars backed by a union-based production crew, written and directed by the world renown David Lynch, who has been recognized by BAFTA, The Academy and Cannes. These awards are the result of the industry trying to promote itself through the mainstream.
My point was that the lodge mythology had to drmatically expand after FWWM, because the scale of what's freaking out Jeffries seems way beyond one demon from the woods of a small town who wants to rape one girl to feed on negative energy.
The Fronde
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Great interview on A Twin Peaks Podcast with Robert Forster -
http://ew.com/podcasts/2017/06/30/twin-peaks-podcast-sheriff-truman-robert-forster/
http://ew.com/podcasts/2017/06/30/twin-peaks-podcast-sheriff-truman-robert-forster/
They are all indicators that the show exists in the mainstream of discourse.
Yeah, I realized I misunderstood you. My bad. However even before this episode I never thought it was just Bob that freaked out Jeffries. I thought he was freaked out because he is seeing these strange otherworldy beings living and interacting above a convenience store. I never felt like the scope was all just Bob although he is obviously a very important character.
Yeah, I thought it clearly had to be more than Bob's plans that they were discussing. The sense that scene gave me is that there's a vast invisible conspiracy going on involving forces beyond our comprehension. I think Lynch would have taken the idea further with the Mulholland Drive TV show - Mr. Roque's men on the endless phones give me a similar feeling.
KO Traveling Hobo
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The good GAF is trapped in the Lodge. Write it in your metapost.This thread got oddly confrontational all of the sudden. Must be new Peaks withdrawal symptoms.
You guys, the nextepisodepart isn't that far away. We'll make it through this, together.
Turin Turambar
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Two things
-I watched Eraserhead today. In the protagonist's room, there was a b&w photo on a wall of a nuke explosion (well, the entire film is in b&w, so maybe the photo was in color...).
-I watcher today a 'Twin peaks lodge moments' from the first two seasons. In what I think it's one of the first lodge scenes, Laura appears with a dress, and the arm presents her as 'a cousin'. Given what we know of her possible origin, it makes more sense??!!
-I watched Eraserhead today. In the protagonist's room, there was a b&w photo on a wall of a nuke explosion (well, the entire film is in b&w, so maybe the photo was in color...).
-I watcher today a 'Twin peaks lodge moments' from the first two seasons. In what I think it's one of the first lodge scenes, Laura appears with a dress, and the arm presents her as 'a cousin'. Given what we know of her possible origin, it makes more sense??!!
KO Traveling Hobo
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For me "above the convenience store" scene is one of the best scenes I have ever seen in a film. It is why I am so obsessed with TP lore. When I first saw it, it made my jaw drop. I was completely in love with TP at that moment. The only movie script I have ever read is FWWM and it was so I could get more convenience store. This was before Missing Pieces was a thing. I think the only thing that rivals it is Coop entering the Red Room and Jimmy Scott singing Sycamore Trees.
The atmosphere and ambience. The mystery. The incredible music. Some of the best music I ever heard. David Bowie absolutely nailing his performance. His desperation and confusion. Jumping Man jumping around. Bob being Bob. Weird cryptic shit. I despise the Missing Pieces version. " Mr Jeffries the shit came of my asshole" What the fuck Lynch? Way to ruin it man.
So, for me to see the convenience store in episode 8 you can imagine my excitement. I'm mean the episode was already fucking mind blowing and then there they were smoking weed in the convenience store like they were Snoop Dogg. Absolutely majestic. Who knew a convenience store could be so damn interesting?
SuperStiltzkin
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Twin Peaks has definitely gotten the mainstream treatment with its marketing up until the debut, but I don't know how much this new series is staying afloat the general TV discussion at large. I imagine a ton of people tuned in during the first week because they are either huge fans of the original series or just wanted to get in on the zeitgeist and general buzz and have steeply dropped off. I would say Twin Peaks The Return has definitely debuted into the mainstream, but its staying power is debatable.
It's the internet age, everything is tailor made for us. I get Twin Peaks The Return related reaction and review videos in my suggestions, not cause they're trending or have a ton of views. I don't know, it's hard for me to gauge whether something is mainstream or not now.
I could possibly lean toward not mainstream just because it's not a type of show people are going to enthusiastically suggest and go "YOU SHOULD WATCH TWIN PEAKS!" to all their friends and family. They know it's an acquired taste and it's more avant garde and slow paced than your typical TV show. It's a show you only suggest to people you know have the patience and open mind for it.
However mainstream doesn't necessarily mean people have to be watching it. I hear about House of Cards all the time and I never watched it. I thought it was a show about a Casino boss at first. But I know it's mainstream because of how much people mention it. And I do on occasion see the perplexed tweet about Twin Peaks or the meme that came out at the right place and right time (Covefe).
tl;dr I dunno
It's the internet age, everything is tailor made for us. I get Twin Peaks The Return related reaction and review videos in my suggestions, not cause they're trending or have a ton of views. I don't know, it's hard for me to gauge whether something is mainstream or not now.
I could possibly lean toward not mainstream just because it's not a type of show people are going to enthusiastically suggest and go "YOU SHOULD WATCH TWIN PEAKS!" to all their friends and family. They know it's an acquired taste and it's more avant garde and slow paced than your typical TV show. It's a show you only suggest to people you know have the patience and open mind for it.
However mainstream doesn't necessarily mean people have to be watching it. I hear about House of Cards all the time and I never watched it. I thought it was a show about a Casino boss at first. But I know it's mainstream because of how much people mention it. And I do on occasion see the perplexed tweet about Twin Peaks or the meme that came out at the right place and right time (Covefe).
tl;dr I dunno
Camper Van Beethoven
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The show is super niche which is fine because if it was popular theyd probably mean its shit like Game of Thrones.
Frank West
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No Twin Peaks tomorrow?
No Twin Peaks tomorrow?
Nope, not till the 9th!
Discotheque
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This 2 week wait is much more intolerable than I expected.
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Frank West
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we don't have time to watch tv between all the clapping and trump rallies
Watched all of the first 2 seasons of Twin Peaks (except whenever Billy Zane was on screen or that James running away subplot). Also watched the movie (which besides some dank lore I thought was kinda boring).
Now I've seen every episode so far in Season 3 and wowza. This season is just gonna do whatever the hell it wants.
Goofy Cooper is great. Funniest this show has ever been. #dougie4ever
Now I've seen every episode so far in Season 3 and wowza. This season is just gonna do whatever the hell it wants.
Goofy Cooper is great. Funniest this show has ever been. #dougie4ever
ElectricBlanketFire
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I'm okay. No Twin Peaks tomorrow is okay. I'm...
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