Brian_FETO
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Which in itself, is kind of a Lynch thing to do
Lol
"They haven't asked about Vegas yet"
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Twin Peaks Season 3 OT |25 Years Later...It Is Happening Again
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Lol
I guess I should keep watching. My bad.
Also when I come back I want to grow up to be a police officer in Twin Peaks.
It's obvious based on past information that Diane is helping Bad Cooper and is aware of more than she lets them believe. She was probably involved with the whole Dougie being connected to Cooper and bad Cooper. What I'm confused about is why would she share this info with Albert and Gordon when we already know she's actively working against them.
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Deleted member 80556
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To be honest, Diane could know, after all she is apparently helping Mr. C. She could've chosen Janey-E so they could keep an eye close to Dougie.
That was actually Ronette Polaski's actress new character. Because the lady without eyes seemed to be trying to get Cooper out into the void, but she never spoke a word, just hissed a lot.
Emperor_Uriel
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Finally, all of the BS is dropped and we're getting some real top-quality stuff. Best episode since the premiere (1+2), and better than 8 because it actively tied the surreal elements into reality.
Now we know why Sarah has always been touched in the head, but is she aware of what's awakened inside of her? Is she a knowing villain, or just an unwitting host?
Could the woman at the end be Lisa? I get the distinct feeling that we were supposed to expect her to say her mother is Audrey, she hesitates to say "Tina" because it's a lie. Maybe she can't remember Audrey because she's no longer here.
Who is "the dreamer?" Is it Cooper? Sarah? The God of this world, whose consciousness we simply occupy?
Now we know why Sarah has always been touched in the head, but is she aware of what's awakened inside of her? Is she a knowing villain, or just an unwitting host?
Could the woman at the end be Lisa? I get the distinct feeling that we were supposed to expect her to say her mother is Audrey, she hesitates to say "Tina" because it's a lie. Maybe she can't remember Audrey because she's no longer here.
Who is "the dreamer?" Is it Cooper? Sarah? The God of this world, whose consciousness we simply occupy?
Brian_FETO
Banned
Don't sweat it, there's so much subtlety and little hints that don't pay off until episodes later. It's easy to forget stuff
But yea, Diane is privy to at least some of Bad Coop's shenanigans
NightShift
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I'm so glad they brought back that scene in FWWM where Philip Jeffries comes back. Any connection that makes it seem like they've planned this since the beginning is the good shit.
Fantastic episode overall with some real strong surreal and horrifying moments. I can't imagine the rest moving along at the pace it was going before.
Fantastic episode overall with some real strong surreal and horrifying moments. I can't imagine the rest moving along at the pace it was going before.
Airola
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So is The Missing Pieces officially canon now because the David Bowie scene was taken from that and not from the movie? He says "who do you think this is there" instead of "who do you think that is there" which was said in this episode.
Or maybe The Missing Pieces is some sort of a dream-memory canon. Like, it's canon but in a way someone would recall it years after with a thing wrong or different here and there.
Or maybe The Missing Pieces is some sort of a dream-memory canon. Like, it's canon but in a way someone would recall it years after with a thing wrong or different here and there.
The Elite
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I was thinking something similar. That would make a lot of sense.
We are the dreamer and there was never a new season of Twin Peaks. It was all in our heads.
NightShift
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Billy is the dreamer.
Airola
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Audrey? :O
Dusk Golem
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I think it's momore people forget often direct contact with the other world in some forms. In a similar way in this episode where the police know they just experienced something shocking, but they can't remember the specifics.
BenjaminBirdie
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Definitely Stan.
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I knew that that line sounded different. Thanks for pointing it out. Maybe Lynch preferred how it sounded, and to be honest, this one sounds better than the theatrical version.
bunbun777
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So looks like the diner scene and Billy was no accident. There's time distortion going on, all those images of the sheriff and deputies coming back to the palace looked just like the sootmen. Andy is the only one to go somewhere but... maybe the other 3 who cannot remember what happened were also effected and were displaced. Sootmen are spirits (minor demons?) maybe we were seeing the cop's spirits coming back to physicality?
Joe Shlabotnik
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The drunk in the cell was just repeating the end of what he heard like DougieCoop. I literally have nothing else to contribute about that.
"Laura is the one" -Log Lady
When Laura removed her face in the second episode, it was all white light behind her face. When Sarah removed her face, it was all black and horrible. White Lodge vs Black Lodge? The Giant saw what was happening in the 1940's when the bomb went off and Bob/The Mother of Abominations or whatever the bug was came to earth, he sent Laura to Earth. Then the bug crawled into (probably) Sarah's mouth and has been with her all that time.
Not to mention Leland was possessed by Bob when he was a boy... Hmm their whole family seems to be the center of all of this.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
So why do we think the tree that is Bobby's self-titled "Jack Rabbit's Palace" looks exactly like what I guess we can only assume in the White Lodge at this point?
I mean, I guess the implication here is the place we saw is the entrance to the White Lodge like the grove with the oil in front of it is the entrance to the Black Lodge, and both seem to have waiting rooms.
I mean, I guess the implication here is the place we saw is the entrance to the White Lodge like the grove with the oil in front of it is the entrance to the Black Lodge, and both seem to have waiting rooms.
Dusk Golem
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The amusing thing is as things come together, the much debated diner credits scene where the patrons change is looking more and more like it was intentional. I don't fully understand that whole background behind it yet, but there's definitely something going on. I think people were more leaning towards it being a mistake in editing on Lynch's part as time went on, but this particular episode has three big clues it likely was actually intentional.
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Leave it to Lynch to make everyone think he made a big mistake, just for us to say "holy crap, it was intentional all along".
Hmm, how far was the liquid similar to engine oil from Jack Rabbit's place again? It was to the East as well, right? That could be something important.
Hmm, how far was the liquid similar to engine oil from Jack Rabbit's place again? It was to the East as well, right? That could be something important.
Emperor_Uriel
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Having him called "the Fireman" is also really interesting. The fireman is the one who puts out fires ("fire walk with me"), and who saves people from disaster. Whoever the Dreamer is, the Fireman seems to be their "guardian angel," trying to fix the parts of the dream that are going haywire.
catapult37
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Gordon, you couldn't tell the Las Vegas office Dougie's wife's name? smh
Laura is the dreamer. This is all going to end with Laura never being murdered and Bob never existing and the final episode of the return is going to be an episode filed over 25 years ago when Twin Peaks originally started. Lynch filmed the finaly back then and he had this all planned all along. It's the best long con in tv.
A lot of standout moments this episode.
- Window washer thing went from hilarious to slightly terrifying in a second.
- FBI dude was awesome.
- Monica Belluci dream. Oh Lynch.
- What I would give for a Bowie Roadhouse scene, anything from Blackstar
I don't even care if it doesn't make sense.
- Fuck you Chad.
- Did not expect the no-eyes lady to return.
- Andy "just cheese" Brennan is suddenly the most lucid dude on the force. Amazing.
- Walnut crushing dude has the best superhero origin story.
- Like daughter, like mom? Faceoff scene!
- End song, Wild West by Lissie. Off to find it.
Headphones are essential to watch this episode.
- Window washer thing went from hilarious to slightly terrifying in a second.
- FBI dude was awesome.
- Monica Belluci dream. Oh Lynch.
- What I would give for a Bowie Roadhouse scene, anything from Blackstar
I don't even care if it doesn't make sense. - Fuck you Chad.
- Did not expect the no-eyes lady to return.
- Andy "just cheese" Brennan is suddenly the most lucid dude on the force. Amazing.
- Walnut crushing dude has the best superhero origin story.
- Like daughter, like mom? Faceoff scene!
- End song, Wild West by Lissie. Off to find it.
Headphones are essential to watch this episode.
plagiarize
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Yes he was.
Unless he really doesn't look like Cooper but we are just seeing him as such because that's who is inhabiting him now.
In the first two seasons he was credited as "The Giant." In The Return previously he was just credited as question marks like so "???" which makes sense now.
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Yeah, he was even called that way by Cooper.
plagiarize
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They physically swap, remember? Different hair. Different weight. Dougie vanishes first then Coop comes out.
yeah I realize. Except that could've also just been adjusted for the viewer. Later it may be revealed that he never looked like him.
Eaten By A Grue
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This place looked like it had what looked to be yellow liquid in a puddle in front of it.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
Could be, I don't quite know though. Seeing that scene was interesting though, I was just looking at the massive tree trunk thinking it was interestingly shaped and then looking at it longer it suddenly hits me, "WAIT, that looks just like the rocky cliffside of the purple ocean place!!", and then it seems from what occurs that place is an entrance to (at this point pretty sure it's) the White Lodge.
But since there's an entrance to the Black Lodge in Twin Peaks, and this is somewhere Briggs knows (which we know he's been to the White Lodge), I'm guessing it's Twin Peaks entrance to the White Lodge.
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Also random though, Blue Rose being whispered by people who encounter their doppelgangers is probably important? Briggs whispers it to others as well we see, and of course in Part 3 we actually see a blue rose in the area with the American Girl.
plagiarize
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I always thought the waiting room could go to either lodge, but who knows? I'm not sure the waiting room is even a thing anymore.
Different vortices. Gordon's led to The Woodsmen
plagiarize
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Not with the soot hobos waiting for him.
The Fronde
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Did Freddie just punch that person who didn't wanna sell him the glove? Freddie didn't kill him, right? I missed a few sentences there.
Also, Freddie's got some power in that hand there. Is this random Freddie kid gonna be the one who kills Sarah / bad Coop?? haha
Dusk Golem
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...You know what, I hadn't made that connection, but yeah with electricity being big this season I guess it'd make sense for him to have a super-powered rubber glove hand...
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