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Twin Peaks Season 3 OT |25 Years Later...It Is Happening Again
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I don't think he's possessed, if Bob is still with him, it's more like he's taking Bob along for the ride.
an old interview from Lynch on Lynch said:
And if that's the case, it sounds like "Phillip Jeffries" wants Doop to deliver Bob back (!) to him:
Tin foil hat speculation, hidden in shame tags:
Okay, for real now. Is that Leland posting as Phillip Jeffries?
The Strokes
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The final moments of episode 2 made me tear up. What a perfect sequence, from the music to the setting and seeing Shelly and James.
It's like they never left.
It's like they never left.
I don't think he's possessed, if Bob is still with him, it's more like he's taking Bob along for the ride.
And if that's the case, it sounds like "Phillip Jeffries" wants Doop to deliver Bob back (!) to him:
Man, this sounds like Bad Coop isn't just an evil spirit with Coop's face but some part of the *actual* Coop that was spun-off into its own entity. A distillation of whatever negative energies were hidden inside him. That's very disturbing.
That was all I needed. The first episode felt like a middle finger in the face from Lynch to the more "mainstream" Twin Peaks fans (of which I count myself). I'm content to put up with his heroin weirdness if he'll throw me a bone like the end of Episode 2 every once in a while through this season.
brandonh83
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Ep.4
lol
But he did a good job.
Bobby crying over Laura's picture reminded me of all the hysterical crying in the first episode of season one
But he did a good job.
ZombieSupaStar
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solid gold. solid. gold.
I choked up a bit. I remember his conversation with jacoby about her when he was in therapy in season one of the original series.
I almost wonder if that was on purpose. Like the first 3 are WTF am I watching level, and 4 is like....ok ok.....they get it....and we will get it too.... when they want to give it to us lol.
CharminUltra
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My quick Twin Peaks season comparison guide:
Season 1: "This is, excuse me, a damn fine cup of coffee."
Season 2: "I still can't get the taste of fish-filtered coffee out of my mouth."
Season 3: "Black as midnight on a moonless night."
Season 1: "This is, excuse me, a damn fine cup of coffee."
Season 2: "I still can't get the taste of fish-filtered coffee out of my mouth."
Season 3: "Black as midnight on a moonless night."
Dusk Golem
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LOL video games.
How crazy is it that Mr C, the evil doppelganger of Agent Dale Cooper would viciously murder someone at a motel in the desert.
If I'm not mistaken, they even shot at the motel that the motel in American Nightmare was modelled after (a famous location already mind).
I doubt David Lynch borrowed a scene from a spin off of a game that was heavily influenced by Twin Peaks... but I love that things folded back in on themselves so perfectly.
You know that I'm a psycho.
The name Mr. C is especially making me think of Mr. Scratch and the murderer set-up, but Mr. Scratch is a lot goofier while Mr. C is deadly serious.
I didn't even recognize
Bobby at first. The name rung a bell, but I had to do a quick google search to remember what character he was supposed to be lol. Father time gets us all.
brandonh83
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Yeah I've had a few instances of not recognizing certain people. No way I'd have recognized
James
ZombieSupaStar
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He's just so cool ....now.
OT: I've seen TP, FWWM, Dune, Eraserhead, and Mulholland Drive, but finding all of them on amazon is kind of tough. I wish they had a nice box set of his works
I can't even begin to process what it means that Jeffries would be working with, or giving orders to, BOB/Doppel-Coop. How do you square that with his appearance in FWWM? Really curious to see how that plays out in the rest of the season, if at all.
Question about Ep. 3
Question about Ep. 3
When Coop is in...space, or wherever...and sees the giant ghost face floating underneath that says "blue rose," was that supposed to be Major Briggs? I didn't pick up on it at the time, but when I saw Don Davis in the credits for the episode -- and the "In Memory of Don S. Davis" right after that -- I guess that was his face?
Dusk Golem
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I was thinking this with the box too, I kind of doubt it was inspired by Lovecraft (if only for the reason that while I see Lovecraft's influence in a lot of things, I don't think I've ever thought anything by Lynch was particularly Lovecraftian despite a few similar things here and there), but the Glass Box and what appears inside of it it so loaded up like something out of Lovecraft it's a bit surprising to see in a Lynch work. Not that it's a bad thing, but it specifically reminded me of Lovecraft's works about trying to peer into other worlds and then the worlds peering back sort of deal.
Maybe Bob and
Bizarro Coop
not returning to the Black Lodge
Also, question :
Did coffee snapped Cooper back to reality a little bit ? He said "Hi". He just repeats words/phrases he hears, we followed Cooper very close after his return and nobody said the word "Hi" to him.
Ros8105
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjeCNnbVYAQ
You guys remember this scene with Bobby and his father? One of my favorite scenes in the series.
You guys remember this scene with Bobby and his father? One of my favorite scenes in the series.
ZombieSupaStar
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Im thinking the phone was bugged, he seemed to know the dorito queen in the room over. I think shes the owner?
brandonh83
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I don't even remember Jeffries, damn I need to rewatch the first two. Or read up about things I don't recall well enough.
Also I think the best moment so far is
.
Also I think the best moment so far is
Catatonic Coop losing his shit over coffee
ZombieSupaStar
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He is in FWWM, I dont think hes in the series or mentioned.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
I can see Lynch 100% in that can scene. He talks about what he loves watching on TV recently is people making cars in a couple interviews for for the new series, how they're artist and fascinating to see them sculpt, tune, paint, build, etc., cars.
The
Jacoby painting scene
watching a guy spraypaint shovels on a mechanism that moves and turns them around.
He was just in FWWM, and it's the most confusing scene in all of Twin Peaks by a mile. It's probably one of the most confusingly constructed scenes I've seen in any movie, really. :lol
brandonh83
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Oh, well I did just rewatch that. Eh. I'll read up on it.
They've already seeded the idea that it's not the real Phillip Jeffries. And since there's only one other person we've known to "be with Bob" in the last 65-ish years... I mean...
it's gotta be Leland... right? Right?
BlueTsunami
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Episode 4 ending spoilers
what a line to end on from Albert. The credit roll actually made me wince because I wanted more.
The interaction between Doop and Gordon at the prison was legitimately spooky. Lynch captured the feeling of what it muat be like talking to a ghost from the past. It was just the perfect amount of off.
The interaction between Doop and Gordon at the prison was legitimately spooky. Lynch captured the feeling of what it muat be like talking to a ghost from the past. It was just the perfect amount of off.
It's Bowie's character.
Well sure, the guy on the other end of the line wasn't actually Jeffries, but Bob thought he was, which makes me wonder what the real Jeffries' relationship with Bob, et al. actually was. Seems like there's more to him than just being another FBI agent caught up in interdimensional madness.
I figured the guy who was pretending to be Jeffries in that scene was Mike, who has always seemed to have an interest in redeeming Bob.
Leland being desperate to reunite with Bob
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
I can see your definition there, for me though Eraserhead and Inland Empire's connection is that both don't stay very grounded and are more continuously nightmarish, so I agree with your assessment, but I also disagree on one point.
I think Eraserhead (and the script for Ronnie Rocket) from the start of Lynch's career have an emphasis on almost a fantasy world, as in the dark nightmarish fantasy is more the world itself in more full force rather than blended with the real world. I can see some light flashes of Eraserhead in Episode 2 purely because of some of the effects (which is also something Lynch did exclusively with Eraserhead with its meaty-look), but the beginning of episode 3 felt very early Lynch to me because of how fantastical it gets.
This said, the part that reminded me of Inland Empire was neither of these bits, but instead rather the New York box stuff. It's not quite like Inland Empire, but the atmosphere reminded me a lot of it, and the modern city setting I think.
brandonh83
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OH!
Badlucktroll
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David Lynch is really handsome
Dusk Golem
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People have been mentioning that, and while I don't buy that was Lynch's intention, I think there's a bigger point to be said for Cooper and commentary on the revival of TV shows said with this analogy. Episode 3/4 spoilers:
Cooper comes back to the world (a show comes back to the world), it tries to replace and build upon something already there but has lost its way and needs to find his way, and begins to somewhat resemble himself but still only loosely when he picks up on things like the thumbs up, coffee, etc.
I really don't think this was Lynch's intent at all, but the case for this stuff can be made.
He's got one of the best heads of hair I've ever seen.
Discotheque
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Yeah I'm jealous. Also his hair somehow got better when it went grey than when it was brown in the 80s.
Dusk Golem
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I'm taking (episode 3/4 spoilers)
Gordon Cole to be something of self-jabs at himself, since I noticed it too. Out of all the characters Cole seems the most profound and confused by everything this season. "I hate to admit this, but I have no idea what's going on. "What the hell!", and the like. And I can't think it's coincidence they made it where Cole seems the most perplexed and openly confused by what's going on. XD;
darkwing-buck
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What do you guys think happened to Donna? In the 2nd EP, it was said James was in a motorcycle accident, maybe she died?
I think the only thing I'm actively disliking is Andy and Lucy.
Anyone else feel like they're being written as incredibly dumb? It's so awkward and cringeworthy 99% of the time (e.g., Lucy not understanding cellphones). It's just not working for me, at all. I don't think it's complete character assassination, but it's getting there.
Dusk Golem
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Episode 4 spoilers:
I think the Doppelganger is possessed by BOB, which I agree is why in the prison he's acting really weird and seems to be repeating sentences told to him like current Coop is doing. I think BOB let the actual Dopple Coop back in the pilot's seat to do the talking, but he can only say certain things and since BOB has been steering so much he's not fully adapted as a human yet.
darkwing-buck
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wanderingprostheyltite
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brandonh83
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Just saw this in my feed, I think it went pretty good
DAMN FINE CUP OF COFFEE
No really sometimes taking risks works out.
darkwing-buck
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Just saw this in my feed, I think it went pretty good
WOOOO!
BlueTsunami
there is joy in sucking dick
Just saw this in my feed, I think it went pretty good
Coopthumbsup.gif
Fuck yes
Expendable.
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Yes! Featuring two people that know more about this show than anyone else I know:
Dark Mood Woods: A Twin Peaks Podcast
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