Camper Van Beethoven
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What did you possibly think somebody like Red was going to do to play in to the main story?
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Twin Peaks Season 3 |OT2| It's Just A Change, Not An End
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What did you possibly think somebody like Red was going to do to play in to the main story?
You're okay with a series that's all questions and no answers?
David Lynch wants us to read his 18 cups of tea leaves.
The Strokes
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I feel Episode 17 was a nice treat for fans to have before the regular cryptic style of David Lynch took over in Ep 18.
I'm still in a bit of a shock, my range of emotions when from "I'm so happy I'm crying" to "Holy shit I'm terrified" (I watched it by myself with no one in my house, so yeah that final moment and also Sarah destroying Laura's photo got me real good) and all I can say it's that I thoroughly enjoyed this journey.
I think either if it's a season or series finale, the last Episode fits perfectly, whatever payoff we'd hope to get came in 17, anything else seemed like wishful thinking, maybe getting more clarification into Audrey's situation would've been fine, but she was never addressed as a focal point of this season if I recall.
Truly hope to see more TP, if not I'm down with theorizing about that truly terrifying ending til I die. It'll make for a good conversation at the very least.
I noticed how his mannerisms and posture changed too and immediately thought of Dougie.
I'm still in a bit of a shock, my range of emotions when from "I'm so happy I'm crying" to "Holy shit I'm terrified" (I watched it by myself with no one in my house, so yeah that final moment and also Sarah destroying Laura's photo got me real good) and all I can say it's that I thoroughly enjoyed this journey.
I think either if it's a season or series finale, the last Episode fits perfectly, whatever payoff we'd hope to get came in 17, anything else seemed like wishful thinking, maybe getting more clarification into Audrey's situation would've been fine, but she was never addressed as a focal point of this season if I recall.
Truly hope to see more TP, if not I'm down with theorizing about that truly terrifying ending til I die. It'll make for a good conversation at the very least.
I noticed how his mannerisms and posture changed too and immediately thought of Dougie.
First of all: I loved everything including the finale. This season has been such a wild ride from beginning to end. We could never imagine there would be more Twin Peaks 25 years after it ended and here we are, with 18 hours of new Twin Peaks directed by Lynch and written by Lynch and Frost.
Now, as for the finale itself. I was speechless throughout the whole hour. I was emotionally drained by the end and very confused, which is a given with Lynch's works (this week I watched Inland Empire for the first time, so I was ready for anything).
The scenes where Fire Walk With Me was recreated with Cooper were so well done, it completely blew my mind. I wasn't expecting anything like that at all. The moment I saw that, I knew the last hour was gonna be something unique.
Cooper's line "what year is this?" and Carrie screaming while possibly recognizing herself as Laura was just the perfect cliffhanger. Twin Peaks always ended on cliffhangers, why wouldn't it now?
Is Laura the dreamer? Was she awakening at the end while the lights went out? We saw the outside of the RR restaurant but we didn't see anyone from the town. We know Diane is not Diane anymore, instead she is Linda and Cooper is Richard. What about the last scene we saw of Audrey? That was never resolved. Is Audrey in this new reality too? Who's still there? Will we get another series about this new reality with new characters?
There were some unresolved plots like Sarah Palmer (is she Judy?), the glass box, Audrey, the Experiment, that thing that entered the girl's mouth in Part 8 (is the girl Sarah Palmer?). But I finished the show satisfied with what I got and I gotta say, in my opinion, this is Lynch's finest work alongside Mulholland Drive. I want to binge watch all 18 hours again right now.
The moment it ended I was reminded of the Log Lady line earlier in the season to Hawk: "It's just a change, not an end" and how it was fitting to the actual end of the show. Bravo Log Lady.
To finish it off for now, how about the last shot with got? With Laura whispering in Cooper's ears inside the Black Lodge? I was sure at that moment we were gonna know what the hell she said to him but I guess it wasn't in Lynch's and Frost's plan to do that. Maybe in another season, if we are ever lucky enough to get one.
Now, as for the finale itself. I was speechless throughout the whole hour. I was emotionally drained by the end and very confused, which is a given with Lynch's works (this week I watched Inland Empire for the first time, so I was ready for anything).
The scenes where Fire Walk With Me was recreated with Cooper were so well done, it completely blew my mind. I wasn't expecting anything like that at all. The moment I saw that, I knew the last hour was gonna be something unique.
Cooper's line "what year is this?" and Carrie screaming while possibly recognizing herself as Laura was just the perfect cliffhanger. Twin Peaks always ended on cliffhangers, why wouldn't it now?
Is Laura the dreamer? Was she awakening at the end while the lights went out? We saw the outside of the RR restaurant but we didn't see anyone from the town. We know Diane is not Diane anymore, instead she is Linda and Cooper is Richard. What about the last scene we saw of Audrey? That was never resolved. Is Audrey in this new reality too? Who's still there? Will we get another series about this new reality with new characters?
There were some unresolved plots like Sarah Palmer (is she Judy?), the glass box, Audrey, the Experiment, that thing that entered the girl's mouth in Part 8 (is the girl Sarah Palmer?). But I finished the show satisfied with what I got and I gotta say, in my opinion, this is Lynch's finest work alongside Mulholland Drive. I want to binge watch all 18 hours again right now.
The moment it ended I was reminded of the Log Lady line earlier in the season to Hawk: "It's just a change, not an end" and how it was fitting to the actual end of the show. Bravo Log Lady.
To finish it off for now, how about the last shot with got? With Laura whispering in Cooper's ears inside the Black Lodge? I was sure at that moment we were gonna know what the hell she said to him but I guess it wasn't in Lynch's and Frost's plan to do that. Maybe in another season, if we are ever lucky enough to get one.
therealminime
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Yeah me too. I love not knowing. I also hate it. It's the type of thing that'll keep me up at night wondering about. What could she have said to him to elicit such a reaction...
It's exceptionally creepy.
It's so simple and effective.
friskykillface
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I thought Judy was going to kill both of them and we'd see that the real Cooper and Laura were just dooplegangers the entire series
What about everything else though?
Like, literally everyone else. All set up, no payoff.
Yes. This is what TP should have always been
iShouldGoPro
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it seems like "electricity" is the trigger for a creation or change of some sort in TP.
after Diane and Coop pass the electric field in the car in 18, that's where they become richard and linda.
it's strange though because it seems as if cooper still remembers who he is even though he goes by a different name.
after Diane and Coop pass the electric field in the car in 18, that's where they become richard and linda.
it's strange though because it seems as if cooper still remembers who he is even though he goes by a different name.
plagiarize
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I wouldn't be okay with an ending that everyone was happy with and everyone understood the same way.
Intheflorsh
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Buttonbasher
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That ending is haunting as fuck. The whole tone of Cooper discovering that something isn't right was enough, but the moment they brought up the Tremond/Chalfant angle, it felt like the combined evil in this show cosmically telling Cooper that he lost. That whole moment just felt genuinely evil, knowing the importance of those characters. The numb aftermath, and the beginning to pick up the pieces was a cherry on top of the nightmare. The final image of the house going dark as Laura begins to wake up knocked me to the ground.
Bold finale. I totally get both sides, and would be elated if we get more, but if we don't, I think the final moments will stay with me forever. Gosh.
Bold finale. I totally get both sides, and would be elated if we get more, but if we don't, I think the final moments will stay with me forever. Gosh.
Joe Shlabotnik
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I don't think you're going to get the answer to this question that you're looking for.
GurgleBot20
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I can't exactly explain why, but I felt really sad in the last half hour. Everything was so empty, vast and unfamiliar.
Yeah me too. I love not knowing. I also hate it. It's the type of thing that'll keep me up at night wondering about. What could she have said to him to elicit such a reaction...
It's exceptionally creepy.
She didn't say anything. They didn't write anything.
The entire show is smoke and mirrors. It doesn't mean anything.
Empty symbols and vagaries. Lynch doesn't know, Frost doesn't know. It's one big troll.
therealminime
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I also kind of adore the fact that this show had so many small scale setups and payoffs but then the large scale setups have almost no payoff. For me the whole series rather nicely balances between utter frustration and immense catharsis.
plagiarize
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If you say so.
Gozer the Gozerian
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If only there was some middle ground here...
Fans refusing to hold Lynch accountable for what he wrote.
"It's sheer genius, I tell ya!"
The funny thing is I was totally on board until the last episode.
that was at the motel
Finale Fireworker
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This is my Phantom Menace.
Mossybrew
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What? Did you even watch the original two seasons?
This is my Matrix Revolutions.
Zombie James
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Remember that Laura's killer was never supposed to be revealed in the original run. Like, ever. Thank executive meddling for the train wreck season two was and the 25 year hiatus.
therealminime
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For me the whole series...
I am allowed to greatly enjoy the whole. Just as you are allowed to hate it.
"Accountable"? Don't make me laugh.
Your desire for a straightforward narrative is in no way more valid than people who are fine with Lynch's brand of storytelling.
Feel like you get the other half from part 16/17 tho
benicillin
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I think a lot of people are going to assume a tragic end for Dale but I really can't see it that way when the Giant lays the entire thing out at the beginning of the season, tells him how to travel to where Laura is still alive and who he'll be when he gets there.
What two birds with one stone means, I'm not sure.
What two birds with one stone means, I'm not sure.
Accurate for me.
Gabriel_Logan
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The names of the previous house owners... Who are they?
GurgleBot20
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The old lady and her grandson that Donna delivered meals on wheels to.
Joe Shlabotnik
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They were the two names of the old lady with magician boy in Fire Walk With Me.
miazakiplz
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Did we just find out that pretty much everything in season 1,2,3 and fire walk with me was all part of Cooper's dream world and now we are finally in the correct dimension? lol
bishopcruz
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Was the real Laura the one who died in the first place? When I was watching episode 17, it struck me that in her conversation with James she said something like she wasn't "his Laura". What if Carrie is the real Laura and always has been, but was placed there long ago by Judy or the Fireman? We then have the Laura doppleganger, who lived out the last horrific days we saw in FWWM.
Zombie James
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Chalfont.
friskykillface
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Episode 17 is the original trilogy
Episode 18 is the prequel trilogy
The movie will be the new trilogy 🤔👀
BenjaminBirdie
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Speaking of Donna, she wasn't in the show at all, even off-screen like Harry, outside of that one name drop from the FWWM clip.
Straight ghosted her character.
Gabriel_Logan
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GurgleBot20
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Now I kind of have it in my head how Jean Renault said that Twin Peaks was better off without Cooper...
plagiarize
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1992. That's what year it is. I just saw the last episode of Twin Peaks. I've never seen anything like it and it will take a long time to process.
I mean I don't think it's a happy ending for him. He looks like a broken man in those final moments and Laura is emitting like the single most blood-curdling scream ever.
Expendable.
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30 minutes of flawless narrative culmination. 1.5 hours of unrelenting dread, punctuated by a moment of eternal terror. Just utter perfection. I'll never forget that finale, much less the rest of the series.
The lack of resolution are peculiar. I'm genuinely curious how these complainers interact with people in real life. Every person you briefly met, every glimpse of a story you hear, every small piece of beauty in this world: do you want to suck the life out of it by wringing out any mystery and joy? Twin Peaks was always about getting a peek into this strange, haunting, beautiful world filled with unique characters and letting the mystique of uncertainty protrude through the layers of this experience. Lynch and Frost carried that through to the end. I loved this and I'd welcome a fourth season, but I'd be just as happy without one.
The lack of resolution are peculiar. I'm genuinely curious how these complainers interact with people in real life. Every person you briefly met, every glimpse of a story you hear, every small piece of beauty in this world: do you want to suck the life out of it by wringing out any mystery and joy? Twin Peaks was always about getting a peek into this strange, haunting, beautiful world filled with unique characters and letting the mystique of uncertainty protrude through the layers of this experience. Lynch and Frost carried that through to the end. I loved this and I'd welcome a fourth season, but I'd be just as happy without one.
Vyse The Legend
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There were plenty of answers this season. A fuck ton actually. It just ended with a whole new set of questions.