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Twin Peaks Season 3 |OT2| It's Just A Change, Not An End
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I don't know, I didn't write it!
I can't speak for all who disliked it, but it's to do with the overall quality of the episode and its role as a season finale.
Bushnell Mullins is alternate universe Agent Desmond.
Airola
Member
Yeah I noticed him and oh god, now I realized the Jumping Man was another disappointment. I love that character in FWWM and was excited to see his actor being in the cast list. I expected to see him in other ways than in two short clips of shaking camera where he really can't even be seen too well.
I'm about to reopen the book because there's a couple things I want to bring up from it but first I should say:
I had some issues with the season overall and the lack of uh... Twin Peaks itself, I guess? I would really have liked to have seen more of those old characters and their children, especially since the ones we did get were usually great. I get the sentiment of "time was wasted" overall but not regarding that, and I also think if things were cut we would not necessarily get scenes replacing them? There's no exchange of time that'd happen.
I enjoyed it a lot overall, in any case. I know that watching the entire series over the past month or so, and knowing it was closer to FWWM and such in tone going in, puts me in a different mindset regarding expectations for The Return specifically than a lot of you (though I should mention that I knew nothing about Dougie Jones; I had just assumed the little I heard about the name was Bad Coop), but still.
I had some issues with the season overall and the lack of uh... Twin Peaks itself, I guess? I would really have liked to have seen more of those old characters and their children, especially since the ones we did get were usually great. I get the sentiment of "time was wasted" overall but not regarding that, and I also think if things were cut we would not necessarily get scenes replacing them? There's no exchange of time that'd happen.
I enjoyed it a lot overall, in any case. I know that watching the entire series over the past month or so, and knowing it was closer to FWWM and such in tone going in, puts me in a different mindset regarding expectations for The Return specifically than a lot of you (though I should mention that I knew nothing about Dougie Jones; I had just assumed the little I heard about the name was Bad Coop), but still.
therealminime
Member
Laura screamed and it ended the universe.
Absolutely accurate.
Emperor_Uriel
Member
benicillin
Banned
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Fire Walk With Me had the only ending everyone will ever like from the series, regardless of if this is the conclusion or it gets one more year
It was really dumb
So are you just going to keep quoting people who liked the finale? Some of legitimately enjoyed, we're not just pretending.
that car ride was honestly one of the best things in the series. Dreadful as hell, I was so tense
Mossybrew
Member
After the ending I just sat there. When there was that black screen, I was just like, no, I want more, please be more. And then that was it. I really can't imagine Lynch coming back and doing this all over again for another season, but who knows? And that's fine with me. Lynch has always been able to twist the viewer's imagination to a skewed angle and then let their imagination fill in the blanks. What is just up ahead that dark highway, about to be revealed in the headlights? I just really enjoy the unanswered mystery. The fucking tease when things start to fall into place then actually fall into a void. And what now? What next? It's wonderful.
At this point in the series I was 100% certain nothing was going to happen. Just like every other time nothing is happening.
And I was right.
No. That would've made it like 1970s and it wasn't. He said "what year is it?" but the correct question would be which reality is it?
oh give me a break with that BS. We knew we have 10 minutes left and we were wasting time with nothing happening.
friskykillface
Banned
Just let her stay dead
Cmon Cooper, you got what you wanted, you escaped the lodge, Diane is with you, Bob is gone forever and only Judy was left to take care of.
Take one punch man, Gordon, The Mitchell brothers and go after Judy
Cmon Cooper, you got what you wanted, you escaped the lodge, Diane is with you, Bob is gone forever and only Judy was left to take care of.
Take one punch man, Gordon, The Mitchell brothers and go after Judy
I was really hoping as the car passed by, they looked over and saw themselves passing.
InaudibleWhispa
Member
I uh.. yeah, no idea how to take episode 18. As an episode of Twin Peaks I liked it. As a set-up for a season 4 I really liked it. As a series finale... I'm going to have to mull it over a little. I loved that final scene though.
DataStream
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If man fucking with the laws of physics let the lodges have more direct access to earth and cause havoc, why would messing with time itself not also cause unknown terrors to emerge? I think the balance is always maintained even if the "good" spirits are helping humanity in some way.
Sometimes scenes can exist for reasons other than just plot. And again, there's no such thing as wasting screen time. Maybe I'm speaking out of my ass here but with episode runtimes varying, I don't get the sense that they had to be hugely specific such that like the lack of them in the car would mean there'd be something to replace it, and beyond that it's not like it's inherently mean you'd get more resolution or something.
Yup, that was super tense.
Mossybrew
Member
Oh, that's good. Yup.
Joe Shlabotnik
Banned
This has been the most memorable series I've watched in ages but I think these are fair points. If I'm going to take issue with anything this season, it would be--
-There was very little interconnection or cohesion to Twin Peaks itself. Besides there just not being as much Twin Peaks as you'd expect in general, all of the characters and places seemed siloed off from one another. It lacked heart, as you said.
-Along those lines, it could have had a few more emotional payoffs along the way to change the mood up from, well, bewilderment and dread. It was some fantastic bewilderment and dread, though.
-Contrary to people griping that there weren't enough answers, this season explained so much that it came dangerously close to strangling the mystery out of everything with lore-y gobbledygook.
friskykillface
Banned
I thought the car behind them was going to be them or Judy or bob or a new threat all together.
And suddenly "What year is it?" takes on a whole new meaning.
Well, I guess this is a better angle to approach the series from.
At some point, it's just better to move on with the scene than just sit the camera. I mean they didn't even bother with putting Angelo's music behind them at least. At least you can say that it can make it seems lively instead of it being dull. It basically is wasting screen time ie that sweeping scene.
Yup. Episode 29 was a filmmaker at the top of his game. Part 18 was something, I guess.
Emperor_Uriel
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"Lynch made a Season 3 about why Season 3 should have never been made."
Sounds pretty accurate, actually.
I don't have a clock near my TV. I also don't look at my watch when I watch stuff. My life is pretty great.
Those scenes, to me, had the emotional resonance of being told what some old acquaintance is doing in an otherwise regular conversation:
"So what's Dr. Jacobi up to these days?"
"Oh, he runs a crackpot radio broadcast where he sells shovels to dig yourself out of the shit."
"Ha, alright."
"Ha, alright," was my reaction to the first scene. When that third Dr. Amp scene came around and there had been no development or character building I just couldn't care less. That's the worst case scenario, but it was similar for almost all of the returning cast (and most of the new cast as well). Ed and Norma getting together happens in a single scene; Nadine walks up, says Ed can do what he wants now, Ed goes to R&R, Norma and Ed hook up and they're never heard from again. None of that is earned by either the characters themselves or the writing team, you can't just show me something happening and expect me to care.
Yeah that makes sense. But it just makes it seem like he has contempt for a certain portion of the fanbase. I think if he had made this season and he never put it out, he would be content with that. I honestly don't think he gives a fuck lol.
It wasn't supposed to be lively. It was supposed to be dull and somewhat disturbing.
I agree but again, it almost felt like Lynch was mocking us.
iShouldGoPro
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I'm wondering if Lynch pretty much told Frost "hey, I'm going to confuse tf out of these people. You wanna wrap everything up in the dossier?"
"Sure man, go for it. I got this"
Lol
"Sure man, go for it. I got this"
Lol
..........
My point isn't that I knew what was coming? When did I ever say that?
My point is that "wasting time" isn't a thing. Your actual argument is "I would have preferred the last episode resolved the plot and explained things more instead of just building tension.", which would make more sense to me.
Frost's into some weird shit as well iirc
this.
meaning at the time of watching, on the edge of your seat wanting to know how it will end, sitting there with them doing nothing saying nothing with no music is wasting precious time.
fitting everything into 55-59 min parts.