I feel like the question to ask there is more "what would it be like if they never made them reveal the killer and continued airing?", I guess. Otherwise I imagine for better or worse if it continued airing it would be more like the middle of season 2?
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Twin Peaks Season 3 |OT2| It's Just A Change, Not An End
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I feel like the question to ask there is more "what would it be like if they never made them reveal the killer and continued airing?", I guess. Otherwise I imagine for better or worse if it continued airing it would be more like the middle of season 2?
Buttonbasher
Member
Was actually reading about that today:
http://twinpeaks.wikia.com/wiki/Twin_Peaks_(2017)
Personally I vastly prefer what we got, over a world made of creamed corn.
Joe Shlabotnik
Banned
Yes
(ABC)
The show was irrevocably transformed after the first season. Literally impossible to speculate as to where Lynch would have taken the show without network meddling and cancellation. That Twin Peaks barely actually exists.
Eh, depends if you liked the rest of the OG cast, I might have preferred that. But we'll never know at this point.
It kind of reminded me of the 4th season of Arrested Development in that respect. A lot of the characters returned, but didn't interact with one another as you'd expect, so it just felt like a totally different show.
Truman would open a portal by driving his jeep backward through a corn field,[8][11][9] going back in time.[7]
hahahaha
Not a bad comparison really.
Kyle MacLachlan from an interview with Esquire that posted a few hours back. It was conducted after Part 16 aired:
http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a57242/kyle-maclachlan-twin-peaks-the-return-2017-interview/
"If we have to." So you're saying there's a chance!
http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a57242/kyle-maclachlan-twin-peaks-the-return-2017-interview/
"If we have to." So you're saying there's a chance!
thank the lord above that we didn't get this lmao
Brian_FETO
Banned
Ridiculous season of television and a hell of a ride. Surprising and completely insane until the very end.
Death Metalist
Member
I really would like to know how much power do these lodges possess? time travel, spirit jumping, tulpas, alternate dimensions, gateways in multiple places.etc man, we need a spin off series just about the fucking lodges
Again he said he want's to, the hardest part for him he says (apparently) is just writing it all lol
So if ShowTime gives him the chance he will probably take it.
Haha, awesome. He should just dictate a bunch of maddening ideas and have a writer's room including Mark Frost do the hard work and then help rewrite it in his own image.
mindatlarge
Member
Assuming there will be no season 4, most signs point that way as of now, some of the questions we still have could be touched on with the upcoming book releasing in October.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1250163307/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I'm cool with how things turned out though. It's Lynch's and Frost's story to tell after all. The biggest take away from watching this series for me was, not everything has to make sense or have a crystal clear answer. I guess we kinda expect that with our entertainment, we want resolution for everything, we're so used to that comfortable small bubble it creates where we are told everything we want to know, eventually. Lynch, at times, ventures into the unknowns that plague our own realities and existence, some of which have no clear answers, and sprinkles them into his storytelling. Just like dwelling on our own unknowns can be uncomfortable, season 3 made us feel that as well. Can't say that's a bad thing.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1250163307/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I'm cool with how things turned out though. It's Lynch's and Frost's story to tell after all. The biggest take away from watching this series for me was, not everything has to make sense or have a crystal clear answer. I guess we kinda expect that with our entertainment, we want resolution for everything, we're so used to that comfortable small bubble it creates where we are told everything we want to know, eventually. Lynch, at times, ventures into the unknowns that plague our own realities and existence, some of which have no clear answers, and sprinkles them into his storytelling. Just like dwelling on our own unknowns can be uncomfortable, season 3 made us feel that as well. Can't say that's a bad thing.
The Strokes
Banned
Man, rewatching Ep17 made me realize Cooper knew shit was gonna be so different after he tried to rescue Laura.
Maybe he wasn't expecting to stay in another dimension or something.
Maybe he wasn't expecting to stay in another dimension or something.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I'm not surprised at how divisive the finale ended up being. lol
Episode 17 felt like all of season 7 of Game of Thrones though. Shit's just happening because they're running out of time.
Episode 17 felt like all of season 7 of Game of Thrones though. Shit's just happening because they're running out of time.
Haha yeah, Lynch literally GOT S7'ed his way to this end after spending so much time in South Dakota and Vegas, killing off characters left and right if need be.
UltraMagnanimous
Member
Amazing.
What a wonderful ride. Loved every moment.
What a wonderful ride. Loved every moment.
Laura is the dreamer. The ending is her snapping out of the fantasy and waking up, like Audrey did. But Laura is dead, she has nothing to wake up to.
Maybe everyone and everything in the series has been a part of her dream. Maybe only what we see when Coop and Diane "cross over" is the dream. But the ending is her waking up to reality, and while the reality for Audrey may be lunacy/a comatose state, the reality for Laura is death.
We are like the dreamer who dreams and then lives inside the dream. Both Audrey and Laura live inside their dream. They don't appear in their dreams and experience them before waking up, they live more than half of their lives inside of them.
I'm happy with this answer
Maybe everyone and everything in the series has been a part of her dream. Maybe only what we see when Coop and Diane "cross over" is the dream. But the ending is her waking up to reality, and while the reality for Audrey may be lunacy/a comatose state, the reality for Laura is death.
We are like the dreamer who dreams and then lives inside the dream. Both Audrey and Laura live inside their dream. They don't appear in their dreams and experience them before waking up, they live more than half of their lives inside of them.
I'm happy with this answer
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Haha that's pretty good.
this owns11,3 meg gif incoming.
At first, I thought that gif was just glitching the fuck out because of all the tabs I have open.11,3 meg gif incoming.
But now I see (and agree)
11,3 meg gif incoming.
Best summary of the series.
afternoon delight
Member
That is one awful synopsis holy christ.
therealminime
Member
That .gif is magical.
Discotheque
Banned
What the fuuuuuck
That last episode had me feeling both a sense of frustration and awe
It feels like Cooper may have condemned himself to some sort of dream purgatory there in the end after he joined Diane. That last scene was creepy as hell in particular as they walked away from the house and got one last scream from Laura.
Was it punishment for trying to change the past with that FWWM flashback? I dunno. I'm tripping
I feel like that moment with Audrey in episode 16 may have been one of the more explicit moments of telling us what was happening this season. Where she wakes up in a comatose or mental state realizing she dreamed those inane conversations and that roadhouse performance (and also Eddie Vedder being called by a different name)
So maybe that whole end portion was Laura's dream too and that final horrifying scream being her realization that she's dead and can't wake up....
That last episode had me feeling both a sense of frustration and awe
It feels like Cooper may have condemned himself to some sort of dream purgatory there in the end after he joined Diane. That last scene was creepy as hell in particular as they walked away from the house and got one last scream from Laura.
Was it punishment for trying to change the past with that FWWM flashback? I dunno. I'm tripping
I feel like that moment with Audrey in episode 16 may have been one of the more explicit moments of telling us what was happening this season. Where she wakes up in a comatose or mental state realizing she dreamed those inane conversations and that roadhouse performance (and also Eddie Vedder being called by a different name)
So maybe that whole end portion was Laura's dream too and that final horrifying scream being her realization that she's dead and can't wake up....
Did Dale Cooper ever fix anything in the series? He failed at saving Maddie, Annie, and failed in going back in time to stop Laura from ever being murdered.
He did give Janey and Sonny jim Dougie, but maybe he shattered that reality by going back in time
And I just read somewhere that Truman never got up from his desk for the whole last scene of 17. Lol
He did give Janey and Sonny jim Dougie, but maybe he shattered that reality by going back in time
And I just read somewhere that Truman never got up from his desk for the whole last scene of 17. Lol
I can kinda see that, the electrical impulses that keep her alive have gone. The lights in the house and the street go out. The Lynch/Frost logo does not turn on. The last thing she hears before she dies is her killer, her father.
I both hated and loved Part 18. I straight up loved Part 17.
I'm actually satisfied with the ending that Coop saved Laura, but in the end got himself trapped in an alternate reality (or future?), with Laura actually remembering some parts of the original reality.
Cheers fellas.
I'm actually satisfied with the ending that Coop saved Laura, but in the end got himself trapped in an alternate reality (or future?), with Laura actually remembering some parts of the original reality.
Cheers fellas.
ZombieSupaStar
Member
So the coordinates mr c wanted just had him go up to the firemans place inside a cage and the space skeeball gun shot him out to the twin peaks sheriff station because Diane was important for some reason?
Lynch had to get Evil Coop there somehow cause Evil Coop was too damn smart for the script.
uncelestial
Member
This makes as much sense as I think I'll be able to make of part 18. It's just weird that Cooper doesn't realize the implications of "crossing over" ("Richard?" "What year is this?" DUDE, DID YOU EVEN HAVE A PLAN?)
Discotheque
Banned
GOAT scream tbh. There are faces she has made throughout the series that put the joker to shame even
I think the Fireman releases Coop's Doppelganger into the sheriff's station so that Coop and Freddie can destroy him.
I mean it's not Polar Bears but it's sorta like that.
uncelestial
Member
Mr. C's endgame still doesn't make sense to me either...
Fluffernutter Pancake
Member
Some major things that need analyzing:
The little girl who lived down the lane.............that was a direct quote by Audrey to Charlie in one of her early scenes. WTF was the meaning of dropping that quote in the finale....
The previous owners of the Palmer house at the very end.....Chalfont and Tremond...........
Scene from FWWM:
Cooper reaches a pack of dirt which is now creased with tire
COOPER: What was here, Mr. Rodd?
CARL: A trailer was here. What the hell do you think?
COOPER: Can you tell me whose trailer it was... and who stayed in the trailer?
CARL: An old woman and her grandson.
COOPER: Can you tell me what their names were?
CARL: Chalfont. Weird. Chalfont was the name of the folks that rented the space before they did. Two Chalfonts.
Tremond was also the name of the old woman and grandson that Donna meets with during her Meals on Wheels run. These two characters seem to be Lodge entities, possibly Black Lodge.......
What the hell does it all mean.............what an absolute mindfuck. Some are griping about the loose ends and confusion, but I am thoroughly satisfied and all I want is more.
The most tantalizing loose end is Audrey's situation and how it ties in ---- what does it mean when her exact quote is used by a completely different person in a completely different setting? Is Audrey the dreamer? What the hell is going on?
The little girl who lived down the lane.............that was a direct quote by Audrey to Charlie in one of her early scenes. WTF was the meaning of dropping that quote in the finale....
The previous owners of the Palmer house at the very end.....Chalfont and Tremond...........
Scene from FWWM:
Cooper reaches a pack of dirt which is now creased with tire
COOPER: What was here, Mr. Rodd?
CARL: A trailer was here. What the hell do you think?
COOPER: Can you tell me whose trailer it was... and who stayed in the trailer?
CARL: An old woman and her grandson.
COOPER: Can you tell me what their names were?
CARL: Chalfont. Weird. Chalfont was the name of the folks that rented the space before they did. Two Chalfonts.
Tremond was also the name of the old woman and grandson that Donna meets with during her Meals on Wheels run. These two characters seem to be Lodge entities, possibly Black Lodge.......
What the hell does it all mean.............what an absolute mindfuck. Some are griping about the loose ends and confusion, but I am thoroughly satisfied and all I want is more.
The most tantalizing loose end is Audrey's situation and how it ties in ---- what does it mean when her exact quote is used by a completely different person in a completely different setting? Is Audrey the dreamer? What the hell is going on?
polyh3dron
Banned
Come.
The.
Fuck.
On.
The.
Fuck.
On.
JoJoShabadoo
Member
Terrible ending for this season and show. Bob starring as a Langolier, slammed down to the depths of hell? By a British man with super strength?
WTF.
WTF.