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Twin Peaks Season 3 |OT2| It's Just A Change, Not An End
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benicillin
Banned
I think the ending is significantly less bleak than a lot of people are assuming. It's the beginning of a new mystery, not a cosmic tale of Cooper's tragic failings.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Fuck me I didn't catch that at all. It was super dark on my TV. Watched it again just now and I'm scarred for life. You're dead on.
31GhostsIV
Banned
Just a change, not and end... sadly that change involves removing Coop's charm.
That's bleak in itself that we have no idea what the odds are we will get to see it
ScientificPizza
Banned
It's obvious now but the older Laura in the red room in the first episode saying she wasn't Laura and then saying she was Laura makes a lot more sense
Both things can be true. He failed at bringing Laura Palmer back home, and reality got fucked up. He lost.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
After Coop and MIKE go up the stairs to the Dutchmans we get that shot of the Shakey Stairs from the trailer and then we see a blur/jumping man go down them.
The above interpretation, I believe, is correct. Judy is leaving the Black Lodge to stop Coop's plan.
benicillin
Banned
So did the Fireman predict that he would lose? Because everything that happened post him failing at getting 1989 Laura back home that night was hinted at by the Fireman in their conversation at the beginning of the series, and everything the Fireman has wanted to happen so far has happened.
CheesecakeRecipe
Stormy Grey
Yep! Mr. C seemed quite puzzled to be at the police station in the first place. The only piece of the puzzle there that concerned him was Naido, and I doubt she would have mattered at all if he went straight to the Palmer house.
The Fireman's motivations seem to line up in such a way that he would want to guide Cooper into the 'right' path. Perhaps the Fireman himself realized that this was the only way to undo everything that BOB and Mother had messed with. Cooper, being the boyscout that he is, followed what he was given to the best of his ability. But maybe Mother got the last laugh in after all...
Master_Funk
Member
I saw this theory on Reddit , which I mostly agree with.
https://www.reddit.com/r/twinpeaks/comments/6xyfrp/s3e18_theory_there_are_5_universes_3_of_which_are/
https://www.reddit.com/r/twinpeaks/comments/6xyfrp/s3e18_theory_there_are_5_universes_3_of_which_are/
Zombie James
Banned
It's not really a mystery; he completely fucked up time. He tried to do something good without thinking about the consequences.
VistraNorrez
Member
Just finished it. Going to have to think about it for a bit, and rewatch it too.
But I can't imagine this is the end.
But I can't imagine this is the end.
So Coop and Diane drove into the alternate dimension....can they just drive back?
I don't know if I'd say he wasn't thinking about the consequences, he said somethings will change, he seemed to be (somewhat) aware of the risks and what was going to happen, but I like the idea that at the end of the day he is just a man who was messing wth ancient forces far above and beyond his comprehension.
I don't know if I'd say he wasn't thinking about the consequences, he said somethings will change, he seemed to be (somewhat) aware of the risks and what was going to happen, but I like the idea that at the end of the day he is just a man who was messing wth ancient forces far above and beyond his comprehension.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Same.
It drifts over the clear implications of the sex scene, so I don't buy his different universe Diane theory (it seems "off" because she's fucking a guy with her rapist's face you ding dong), but everything else feels right.
Alec
Member
Yeah, 430, Richard and Linda, the sound it makes. The Fireman knew Cooper would end up where he did at the very end.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Starting the series over, it actually makes everything feel more important not less. Every choice is clearly so deliberate.
I was so in during episode 18. When I saw the other diane, I was just thinking that other versions would appear to try to correct what they were doing, since they probably done it before, and BAM, another diane appeared. I had a sense I knew what was going on, and that fleeting moment felt good.
The idea of a loop in whick coop always fails to course correct is very interesting. Hm being so sure the house would fix everything, and then having that really not give him any clues, was great. But in the end, this was a garbage episode because it lacked the mullholand drive element. THat movie was just as vague, but gave us enough clues and information along the way that we can pretty much build the pieces of the puzzle to understand it.
Episode 18 introduced 5 dofferent pieces in the last 20 min of it, and offered nothing in return for us to mull over. Alot of promise, but irrelevant.
A shame.
The idea of a loop in whick coop always fails to course correct is very interesting. Hm being so sure the house would fix everything, and then having that really not give him any clues, was great. But in the end, this was a garbage episode because it lacked the mullholand drive element. THat movie was just as vague, but gave us enough clues and information along the way that we can pretty much build the pieces of the puzzle to understand it.
Episode 18 introduced 5 dofferent pieces in the last 20 min of it, and offered nothing in return for us to mull over. Alot of promise, but irrelevant.
A shame.
Hah.
I had just finished watching both episodes when I wrote that post. I was just so pissed man. Ending in another inexplicable cliffhanger is just mean. Mean to the audience. And looking at the dismal ratings I don't see any chance for a season 4. Maybe in 25 years, directed by CyberLynch.
I'll say this much about episode 18, it actually flew by for me, even more than episode 17, I did not realize an hour had passed when the credits started rolling. I let out a literal NOOOO.
lol.
Oh well.
friskykillface
Banned
Cooper/Richard looked so defeated X unsure X shook right at the end
Laura doesn't even know the year as well 🤔
Laura doesn't even know the year as well 🤔
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
It's a world
Of truck drivers
Of truck drivers
They won't. The book is set between 2 and 3
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Mistah C.
Mistah C.
It's pretty amazing to just enjoy these scenes knowing how everything fits together. The way Lynch shoots and fills a room. The way everything sounds. I can't believe there's 18 hours of this.
Mistah C.
It's pretty amazing to just enjoy these scenes knowing how everything fits together. The way Lynch shoots and fills a room. The way everything sounds. I can't believe there's 18 hours of this.
You do realize the President of Showtime said they would do a season 4 without question if Lynch wanted to, right? They made that very clear just within the past few weeks.
If there is a season 4 showtime would fund it and air it without question, they have already said this.
It all hinges on if Lynch wanted to ever do more. And my hunch is he is done.
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
The Diane/Coop sex scene was one of the most unnerving thing I've watched. Everything went so wrong from that point.
Honestly I can't blame people for not liking it. (Same with Episode 8) I just don't get why some of those people have to practically insult everyone who does.
Personally, after the finale of Season 2 an ending like this is what I wanted/expected. Guess I'm a masochist.
Showtimes still interested in doing another season despite the ratings so seems like the balls in Lynchs court.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
"Let's not overthink this opportunity."
Pretty significant advice right there in episode 1.
Pretty significant advice right there in episode 1.
Showtime said they would do whatever Lynch wanted, no questions asked.
guybrushfreeman
Unconfirmed Member
Well, that was unsettling
benicillin
Banned
Mark Frost liked this tweet, which is probably my favorite take on the finale I've seen. It's probably been posted here before.
blame space
Banned
Lucy thinking she finally understands cellular phones is so good.
friskykillface
Banned
Freddie aka one punch man aka one lynch man the 🐐
Mark Frost liked this tweet, which is probably my favorite take on the finale I've seen. It's probably been posted here before.
I'm taking this as confirmation of more Twin Peaks
Mark Frost liked this tweet, which is probably my favorite take on the finale I've seen. It's probably been posted here before.
Its what makes the most sense. 17 felt like closure to a lot of what was going on in this season. 18 felt like something completely different.
I'm honestly thinking there will be more, sure it might not have done well during live TV but it got ShowTime paid with subs and I'm sure streaming numbers were high
friskykillface
Banned
Just keep giving Lynch a blank check
Showtimes President didn't give a "we'll see" sort of nonanswer when asked about Season 4. He point blank said they would do a 4th season, without hesitation, if Lynch wanted.
So Showtime was happy enough.
blame space
Banned
can someone smarter than me explain Cooper's face overlay on the post orb punching/birthing vagina head Diane reveal?
Well Lynch wants to as well, so guess I should buckle up
Discotheque
Banned
I would literally shit if Lynch decided to make a film followup to this. Or hell anything feature length really since I've been thinking throughout this whole season (especially ep. 8) that it's his retirement project to go out on a bang
Dudes still got something left in the tank
Dudes still got something left in the tank
Well, I just want it because I want more Twin Peaks.
Gozer the Gozerian
Member
plasma tv burn-in
that's true. maybe lost isn't the right word, but i don't know if Cooper will ever truly save Laura
blame space
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