Or don't, it just makes me sad.
His actual facebook page has a lot of truly shitty posts
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Twin Peaks Season 3 |OT2| It's Just A Change, Not An End
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His actual facebook page has a lot of truly shitty posts
I've seen them. I've been told he used to be a rather pleasant person, so I just have to assume he's sick and needs help. But yeah, they're vile.
s_mirage
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Yeah, it was pointed out on Reddit that she was saying nothing but positive things until it seems that she actually saw the show. Was she expecting more screen time? Was the audio overdubbed and she's pissed about that? Is she mad because she didn't get an introduction like Nine Inch Nails. Eddie Vedder, James Hurley (lol), etc?
Her appearing meant a lot more than any of the other people though so I don't understand why she thinks Lynch disrespected her in any way, her music act was the big finale of sorts.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
You know, the OT title is rather fitting with how the season ended.
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Deleted member 80556
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You know, they're more mysterious than The Fireman. I still don't understand them. They saw how Leland was "inspired" to kill Laura. Didn't do anything then, but did help her (maybe? I guess the ring did give her the choice of dying or being possessed). And now might have hindered Cooper's search for Sarah.
Weird as fuck.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
You know, they're more mysterious than The Fireman. I still don't understand them. They saw how Leland was "inspired" to kill Laura. Didn't do anything then, but did help her (maybe? I guess the ring did give her the choice of dying or being possessed). And now might have hindered Cooper's search for Sarah.
Weird as fuck.
They're weird in the original series, but the movie made them a lot more interesting.
And it's interesting they aren't mentioned all season until the very end, and notable since they apparently also owned the trailer in Deer Meadows.
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Deleted member 80556
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Also that! They might have had a role in Chester Desmond's disappearance.
s_mirage
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I'm pretty sure it was in Deer Meadow in FWWM.
I'm rather pleased it's the one I went with, yeah. Ended up being more appropriate that I could have ever predicted.
The sign said "new" so a move sounds canon to me.
Oooooh ok now it makes way more sense. It was kinda weird cause I thought "wait that means Cooper went to Twin Peaks looking for Chester Desmond in FWWM???"
stuminus3
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I'll be watching closely for this for any hints of it in my rewatch but yeah I'm pretty sure Sarah wasn't possessed or whatever until after the New York scene. It doesn't make sense that Mr C wouldn't know where to find her otherwise.
It was. This is one thing that I didn't get. Did Carl just up and move the trailer park?
EDIT:
Ah, I didn't catch that for some reason.
Ay. I guess it's easy enough to move a trailer park. Carl should probably avoid the ominous electric poles by now though!
friskykillface
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24 hours since it aired
Mind still boggled
One punch man still the 🐐
Mind still boggled
One punch man still the 🐐
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Many theories:
- Cooper became a new character: Richard.
- Cooper is in focused mode and has no time for BS.
- Cooper has become an amalgamation of his doubles (which could be Richard).
- Cooper was replaced by someone named Richard (while he goes in to get the key to the motel room, and just like Diane could have been replaced by the other Diane who was staring her).
Because they're Richard and Linda. While Coop still retains enough of his Coop'ness to not be Richard enough for Linda, which is why she leaves him.
When Laura screamed and shut down the dream at the end, Cooper went to the same place that Peter Petrelli's Irish girlfriend went to.
World SkiFree
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Anyone planning to pick up the Roadhouse album? I'm leaning towards getting it.
Twin Peaks (Music from the Limited Event Series) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071ZBJDVN/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Twin Peaks (Music from the Limited Event Series) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071ZBJDVN/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Well... if nothing else, I have to say that this Finale definitely answered ONE of the big mysteries of this season:
Did she delete her instagram?
From the Twin Peaks wiki: Sarah stood in her kitchen the next morning, February 24, 1989. She impatiently called for her daughter to wake up, but received no answer. After searching for Laura, she could not find her anywhere in the house.
Jeffries seconds before he disappears and after talking about dreams: "February 1989."
This shit just keeps getting crazier.
Jeffries seconds before he disappears and after talking about dreams: "February 1989."
This shit just keeps getting crazier.
STILLethal
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Just finished the last ep. So what're some popular theories on the ending?
Briggs escapes to the White Lodge using the coordinates he has Bill Hastings and Ruth Davenport get for him. The same coordinates that Mr. C is following.
The Fireman traps Mr. C once he enters the White Lodge and then sends him down to the sheriff's station to be killed.
World SkiFree
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I'm thinking Chet was the offscreen husband sharing the pre-Palmer homeowner info with his wife at the door(!). "Let's Rock!"
Gozer the Gozerian
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You were manufactured
It's amazing how twisting the lore is now. In the international pilot, they find out Bob is the killer but he's just a guy that lives in the Great Northern's basement. Nothing supernatural. We've come a long way.
You know, I always liked the interpretation that Cooper's darkness took over at the end of season 2, meaning Mr C absolutely is Cooper in the end and not so much some supernatural lodge being.
If "Richard" truly is an amalgamation of the two, perhaps that just means Cooper is whole again after his Doppelganger burns in the black lodge. I know Cooper seems different in the finale, but his shadow self did have 25 years to grow after all so maybe that's what's having an effect. Cooper very much was a personification of goodness for most of this season which does seem true to the character, but he did have his flaws in the original series and right at the end of this one. It works for me.
If "Richard" truly is an amalgamation of the two, perhaps that just means Cooper is whole again after his Doppelganger burns in the black lodge. I know Cooper seems different in the finale, but his shadow self did have 25 years to grow after all so maybe that's what's having an effect. Cooper very much was a personification of goodness for most of this season which does seem true to the character, but he did have his flaws in the original series and right at the end of this one. It works for me.
Am I the only one who sees how Audrey's scenes tie in to what we witnessed in episode 18? I am surprised how almost no one else is talking about it. Audrey's scenes tie very well to the journey across universes we see in episode 18.
Let's see:
In Audrey's scenes we witness an Audrey who seems confused about herself. Not quite sure who she is or what is real.
Who does she remind you of? Laura, Cooper, and Diane when they are in the "Odessa" universe as Carrie, Richard, and Linda.
And what happens when Audrey realizes her reality isn't real? It goes black and she snaps back to her reality. An Audrey that doesn't look like the one we know. Straight hair, no makeup. Perhaps in an institution.
What we witnessed was an Audrey from one universe "dreaming" of herself in the other reality. Somewhat confused and losing sight of who she was before a sudden realization and snapping back to her reality, wherever it may be.
This gives the final scene hope. Laura's scream and the house going dark is much like when Audrey realized her reality at the bang bang bar with Charlie wasn't her reality and suddenly woke up.
Perhaps like Audrey, Laura snaps back and awakens right there on the steps of the Palmer household but in her reality, with Judy inside?
When the Arm repeats Charlies line of "Is this the story of the little girl down the lane?" it is Lynch's clue to us. The answer was in the Audrey's scenes. We witnessed someone traversing one reality to another to be an alternate version of them self before the Odessa scenes, with Audrey. And she was able to wake up. Which means Laura too can wake up. And perhaps that is what we witnessed at the very end giving hope to the battle against Judy.
Let's see:
In Audrey's scenes we witness an Audrey who seems confused about herself. Not quite sure who she is or what is real.
Who does she remind you of? Laura, Cooper, and Diane when they are in the "Odessa" universe as Carrie, Richard, and Linda.
And what happens when Audrey realizes her reality isn't real? It goes black and she snaps back to her reality. An Audrey that doesn't look like the one we know. Straight hair, no makeup. Perhaps in an institution.
What we witnessed was an Audrey from one universe "dreaming" of herself in the other reality. Somewhat confused and losing sight of who she was before a sudden realization and snapping back to her reality, wherever it may be.
This gives the final scene hope. Laura's scream and the house going dark is much like when Audrey realized her reality at the bang bang bar with Charlie wasn't her reality and suddenly woke up.
Perhaps like Audrey, Laura snaps back and awakens right there on the steps of the Palmer household but in her reality, with Judy inside?
When the Arm repeats Charlies line of "Is this the story of the little girl down the lane?" it is Lynch's clue to us. The answer was in the Audrey's scenes. We witnessed someone traversing one reality to another to be an alternate version of them self before the Odessa scenes, with Audrey. And she was able to wake up. Which means Laura too can wake up. And perhaps that is what we witnessed at the very end giving hope to the battle against Judy.
STILLethal
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Thats reaaaal good
DataStream
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I really don't see how Cooper is anyone other than himself. Just rewatch when Laura opens the door and see his facial expression of joy and the earnestness he continues to have in explaining things to her in spite of her responses.
Before he sees who is behind the door at the Palmers when the door starts to open he shows a slight hint of optimism again before he sees it's not Sarah and directly refers to himself as Dale Cooper.
He is acting differently because he feels in his gut something is deeply wrong but when he sees glimmers of hope he lets down his guard. I'd feel pretty worried if I woke up in a room i didn't go to sleep in that someone snuck out of and found a letter from a woman with a different name to a man with a different name.
Before he sees who is behind the door at the Palmers when the door starts to open he shows a slight hint of optimism again before he sees it's not Sarah and directly refers to himself as Dale Cooper.
He is acting differently because he feels in his gut something is deeply wrong but when he sees glimmers of hope he lets down his guard. I'd feel pretty worried if I woke up in a room i didn't go to sleep in that someone snuck out of and found a letter from a woman with a different name to a man with a different name.
the "mother" monster.
I wonder if the Roadhouse scene at the end of Parr 9 has anything to so with Steven's scene prior to his death. He mentions going up to see the rhinoceros, and the girls in Part 9 talk about zebras and penguins, and mention that they've been doing drugs lately.
Damn! Now this is really something interesting to think about!
Damn! Now this is really something interesting to think about!
He changes as they are having sex which is why she becomes distressed and covers his face. When Richard/Coop wakes up the motel he leaves is a completely different motel and the car was a different car. He told Diane , "It could be different over there." I think it changed more than they were expecting or were ready for.
He knows. Fuck you.
I see a lot of people saying the Coop overided the current Twin Peaks timeline, but I really don't think this was the case. Remember, Episode 18 opened with the creation of Dougie 2 by Mike to return to his family. This means that Dougie 2 and the original timeline still exists.
I think what happened is that Cooper created another timeline, but instead of being Twin Peaks w/ Laura Palmer, it was Twin peaks w/o Laura Palmer. This is why Laura disappeared once Coop was taking her to Jack Rabbit's Palace. Sarah aka Judy reacted negatively to this, and basically used her power to erase Laura Palmer from existence.
However this doesn't mean Laura is down just yet. Laura, afterall, was created by the Fireman back in the 1950s. It's possible Carrie Page is just an incarnation of "Laura" like the original Laura Palmer was. This might be the miscalculation on Judy's part, where she tried getting rid of Laura Palmer by erasing her existence all together, but "Laura" still exists, just like how "Bob" exists no matter what body he's housed in. "Laura" just happens to be the light that shines on darkness.
I think what happened is:
- "Laura" was created by the Fireman to combat "Bob".
- Coop went into the Black Lodge to save "Laura" by going into the past.
- Coop tried to change the timeline, but Judy changed it instead, creating a world without Laura Palmer.
- "Laura" however wasn't erased, and became Carrie Page in this new reality. Likewise, Dale Cooper became Richard and Diane became Linda (maybe Judy tried erasing them too).
- Cooper and Diane were driving on the road thinking they were going to be able to go to the new timeline Cooper thought he created and bring an adult Laura back to Twin Peaks.
- Things didn't go his way, because the new timeline isn't one he created, it was created by Judy.
As for Audrey who in the hell knows at this point.
I think what happened is that Cooper created another timeline, but instead of being Twin Peaks w/ Laura Palmer, it was Twin peaks w/o Laura Palmer. This is why Laura disappeared once Coop was taking her to Jack Rabbit's Palace. Sarah aka Judy reacted negatively to this, and basically used her power to erase Laura Palmer from existence.
However this doesn't mean Laura is down just yet. Laura, afterall, was created by the Fireman back in the 1950s. It's possible Carrie Page is just an incarnation of "Laura" like the original Laura Palmer was. This might be the miscalculation on Judy's part, where she tried getting rid of Laura Palmer by erasing her existence all together, but "Laura" still exists, just like how "Bob" exists no matter what body he's housed in. "Laura" just happens to be the light that shines on darkness.
I think what happened is:
- "Laura" was created by the Fireman to combat "Bob".
- Coop went into the Black Lodge to save "Laura" by going into the past.
- Coop tried to change the timeline, but Judy changed it instead, creating a world without Laura Palmer.
- "Laura" however wasn't erased, and became Carrie Page in this new reality. Likewise, Dale Cooper became Richard and Diane became Linda (maybe Judy tried erasing them too).
- Cooper and Diane were driving on the road thinking they were going to be able to go to the new timeline Cooper thought he created and bring an adult Laura back to Twin Peaks.
- Things didn't go his way, because the new timeline isn't one he created, it was created by Judy.
As for Audrey who in the hell knows at this point.
I heard about this but hadn't seen any of it and even the first minute is killing me.
I'll give it a watch tomorrow.