I said it on the original thread, but shadow hits home for me way more than it should, and it will forever be one of my favourite things that have come out of this season for me.
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Twin Peaks Season 3 |OT2| It's Just A Change, Not An End
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I said it on the original thread, but shadow hits home for me way more than it should, and it will forever be one of my favourite things that have come out of this season for me.
it will not. we will be getting a book from Mark Frost next month that reveals some things that happened before the start of the season, but unless a season 4 somehow happens, this is the end. and it's a perfect end.
The two-episode opener is still what I've liked the most this season. How it ended with Shadow was pretty much perfection.
KO Traveling Hobo
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In Diane's story about her assault, she says that they only kissed once before. I find it unlikely that they boned, and even if they had, it would have only been one time. And in the series, we see Cooper's romantic involvement with Audrey, Annie, and Caroline, while remaining ever formal and professional with Diane over the tape recorder.
If Cooper was devoted to Diane, he would never have gotten so close to Audrey or fallen in love with Annie.
I didn't know he was a Peaks fan
Wow, the Robert Frost?
WOOPSI didn't know he was a Peaks fan
oh come on easy D you had to slide in there right before the edit with the frame-perfect quote
Buttonbasher
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Speaking of lyrics, I keep coming back to the song 'A Violent Yet Flammable Future' by Au Revior Simone.
Heartbreaking.
Shame this isn't on the Roadhouse Soundtrack release. I think it's a much better fit than Lark.
Heartbreaking.
Shame this isn't on the Roadhouse Soundtrack release. I think it's a much better fit than Lark.
What is her plan though. Does she have a plan? What was Mr. C's plan anyway? Just fucking around?
Biggest question I have though is what happened to the thing that escaped from the glass box in the first episode. Did it go back to its home planet?
I took it as her realizing Cooper is trying to save Laura, so her stabbing the photo is her taking Laura back and (depending on which theory you subscribe to) sending her into a new reality/dream.
at this point it sure seems like the Experiment from the glass box is Judy and it made its way to Twin Peaks after the NYC incident to possess Sarah and get BOB back
The Road Less Traveled leads to What Year Is It, confirmed!
(Easy mistake, take it easy, man!)
they weren't diane and cooper at that motel. they were richard and linda. You can tell by the way Cooper acts - not himself.
Once Bob was killed that plan of evil ended. In addition, then Coop making it so Bob could never have his victim in Laura (the golden girl) that sealed everything. So at that point, all had been wiped. Her death set off the chain of events to Bob's destruction, but saving her altered reality. I'm not really sure the logic here but I assume it can't be good for Sarah-Judy.
Right, guess it could be Judy. So it just moved itself to Twin Peaks.
Do we know that Judy wanted Bob back? What for?
You're right. I think it's the act of change, even that small, that breaks her.
SuperStiltzkin
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It looked like he placed Lucy in the doorway to Truman's office and then ran to look for Hawk. I'm not sure if it was vision or interdimensional fuckery where he put Lucy there to kill Mr. C.
he saw a vision of him moving her. I'd have to go back and watch it again but I think the idea was to make sure she stayed by the phone, to make sure Truman got the phone call from Coop.
If you choose to believe that the fake Jeffries that called DoppelCooper was actually Judy, then yes. And maybe she just wanted her offspring back to be at full power, just as I assume DoppelCooper wanted to find Judy in order to gain full power from her. They were both after the same thing, just had different intentions.
No, I think he wanted to confront Judy, and she wanted him back in the lodge and Bob to be with her again.
Dick Tremayne
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Andy is the one putting all the pieces in place at the station. He gets Mr. C the chair, he runs to get Hawk which leads him downstairs to make sure Chad is KO'd, he either physically moves Lucy to the door or keeps her at the phone for Coop's call, he brings everyone up from the holding cells for the big showdown, he meets Coop at the door.
I'm guessing the vision was shorthand for "It's up to you to make sure this goes down correctly."
KO Traveling Hobo
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Could Mrs. Chalfont/Tremond be Mother?
I don't think her being namedropped in the final minutes of the show was just non sequitur fanservice.
Expendable.
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Outside of the debut episode, I didn't plug this on here, but now that it's the finale, our podcast discussion is up and thought some may be interested:
Dark Mood Woods: A Twin Peaks Podcast Episodes 17 & 18
Dark Mood Woods: A Twin Peaks Podcast Episodes 17 & 18
jetpacks was yes
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Has anyone mentioned how the closer we got to the end of episode 18 the more real things felt? Like this was the reality, and twin peaks is just a fun and silly tv show. Of course there is no Sarah Palmer, that's silly. Everything in that sequence felt like that to me.
One thing which sticks out that ties to that is how emotionally unfulfilling that ending is to me. Like a bad dream that felt real while you were in it and when you wake up you very much want to forget it as quickly as possible. Lynch did do something really interesting here, but it's such a shitty feeling that I'm still really dissatisfied with it. I never expected plot resolution, but feeling this complete opposite of emotional closure has made me really bummed out about the series, if this really is the end.
One thing which sticks out that ties to that is how emotionally unfulfilling that ending is to me. Like a bad dream that felt real while you were in it and when you wake up you very much want to forget it as quickly as possible. Lynch did do something really interesting here, but it's such a shitty feeling that I'm still really dissatisfied with it. I never expected plot resolution, but feeling this complete opposite of emotional closure has made me really bummed out about the series, if this really is the end.
darkwing-buck
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Kyle Maclachlan pulled a tour de force with the amount of roles he had to carry. God I hope he gets a emmy, dude was like modern Peter Sellers.
Seamless in this series and was funny when he needed to be (Dougie).
Seamless in this series and was funny when he needed to be (Dougie).
If he does get nominated, it'll be 2018's, unfortunately. There's always the Golden Globes, though!
stuminus3
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This was one of the first things I realised post-18. I was disappointed that we didn't see more of Audrey past her "awakening" and felt like the "sidewards flash" thing should have been written in earlier than the last episode then I realised that the whole concept had been telegraphed all along, long before Audrey even actually appears on screen, and that it didn't really matter where Audrey actually is because she had served her purpose. Pretty cool.
WiiredShawn
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The relevance of that song's lyrics is crazy to me. Realizing that the song played at the end of Part 2, and Part 2 has the scenes that are reworked in Part 18, just gives it an extra punch.
I still have mixed feelings about the end, but I'm starting to appreciate how some of these musical numbers weaved into the show's thematic and emotional tapestry.
I mean yeah but we don't know anything about their plans. But it was bad enough for the white lodge (?) to send their own countermeasure.
So it's Judy that Bob's running away from at the beginning? Thinking about this season makes me want to rewatch, but I also really don't want to.
Fake Jeffries though, what did I miss?
Honestly I never thought much of MacLachlan's acting abilities before this season, but he's really fantastic. Maybe S3 will lead to better opportunities for him. Seems he doesn't really work on movies. The last thing I saw him in was Desperate Housewives lol.
Great song. For me, it's been Wild West by Lissie. Something about it has been inspiring me.
darkwing-buck
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It's been stuck in my head since last night. It's so good.
Net_Wrecker
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Oh and I just want to say that despite all the craziness this show brought us, Gordon Cole's Monica Bellucci dream scene is still my favorite thing from The Return. The close ups, the black and white visuals, the hugely important dreamer quote, Lynch turning around to see his younger self, the incredibly menacing droning score, etc. etc. Just greatness.
AHA-Lambda
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One part I don't get is when they pulled BOB out in 17, I thought he'd already been removed earlier?
KO Traveling Hobo
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He poked out, but we didn't see him leave.
Gordon seeing himself gets even better when you realize that the building directly behind that cafe irl is Lynch's art museum
I wonder if it's segments of BOB, like he's there, but it's not his full strength, especially since he's been extracted twice in the same way. That's why I think even after Green Glove Avenger Freddie, BOB isn't done, not fully.
mariachi507
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That's interesting to read about Johnny Jewel and all the music he recorded. Speaking of, there's been a few OST moments that I've been meaning to look more into. Like when the Fireman brought forth the Laura Palmer orb in episode 8 or the music that played during the end credits of the finale. They were haunting and beautiful and I need more. Does anybody know if those are Jewel tracks? Badalamenti tracks? Lynch/Hurley tracks? Or from somewhere else maybe?