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Twitter Death Watch |OT| How long until the bird dies?

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GeorgioCostanzaX

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Redbull is the Apple of beverages, too expensive for what it offers, overmarketed to a ridiculous degree and at the end of the day it's just caffeine. I'd rather drink coffee.

Red Bull is all marketing.

The difference is coffee is marketed anywhere from dirt cheap McCafes to more expensive Starbucks stuff in a low key way, while drinking a Red Bull is promoted as everyone becomes a death defying stuntman.

The caffeine in both are basically the same amount per serving size. But going by TVs ads I'd bet the average person thinks Red Bull has like triple the power. Red Bull spends a ton on marketing.

Red Bull even says this on their own website Q&A. https://www.redbull.com/int-en/energydrink/how-much-caffeine-is-in-a-can-of-red-bull

How much caffeine is in a can of Red Bull?​

One 250 ml can of Red Bull contains 80 mg of caffeine, about the same amount as in a cup of home-brewed coffee.
I’d never pay for Redbull but since I’ve worked for mostly these types of Sillicon Valley tech firms my entire career where it’s FREE I can say it does seem to hit differently than coffee. It’s not just the caffeine but the chemical soup of additives and sugar that does it. Makes me wish I could use a Time Machine and try the cocaine laced version of Coca Cola which still does have a non narcotic extract from the coca plant in it.

 
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Nobody_Important

“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
I’d never pay for Redbull but since I’ve worked for mostly these types of Sillicon Valley tech firms my entire career where it’s free I can say it does seem to hit differently than coffee. It’s not just the caffeine but the chemical soup of additives and sugar that does it for me.
Yeah coffee is more of a slow burn for me.

Red Bull or other cocaine drinks seem to give instant boosts while having steep drops later.
 
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M1chl

Currently Gif and Meme Champion


This is Twitter's former head of trust and safety advocating for kids to use Grindr in his thesis.


I've read about the woman a little bit and she was there as someone who build Machine Learning scanner, I think probably different people were calling the shots. But I do hate that they didn't implement any meaningful deterence to pedophiles, so I don't care as much her being ousted like that.

But beware that some trollsite could put out fake pictures, because it's fun to make people suffer.

here is the article, by the way:

 
Sounds like Peter has a employee turnover problem.
Are you referring to this part?

" Our entire account team turned over multiple times in 2 weeks. We had multiple people (AE, AM, analyst, creative specialist) supporting our account and they all vanished without so much as an email."

Because that was strangely worded. I believe he's talking about the account team at Twitter--not his company
 

DragoonKain

Neighbours from Hell
Because terrible decisions are being made? The site is unbanning horrible people? The site is no longer really moderating hate speech and other bigoted content and is instead just not "super boosting" it?


There are plenty of reasons why some people or some companies don't want to be a part of Twitter right now.
The site never moderated hate speech well. It was just uber focused on specific brands of it, but allowed other types. Campaigns of hate were made on a daily basis against people like JK Rowling. Just merciless vicious attacking and not only attacks, but threats and graphic fantasies of violence.

Twitter's problem was never allowing or disallowing "hate speech" it was the fact that they never defined it properly or used any logic when applying it. Saying "men aren't women" was absurdly considered hate, but saying "die terfs" wasn't.

Elon may allow more crap on the platform now, and because of it some more vile stuff may sneak through the cracks, but at least there seems like there will be some consistency applied and people can know what to expect of the platform and if they are turned off by lighter moderation, they don't have to use the platform. But I'd be willing to bet you the more outright nasty stuff like racial slurs will still get people banned.

I think ultimately, people are just butt hurt those whom they ideologically disagree with have been allowed a platform again. They take bans from Twitter, aka "the public square" as victories and vindications, and when those are reversed it feels like a personal loss. And to those people I say get a life, go outside, and don't be so invested in trivial nonsense.
 
Honestly it was looking bad the first few weeks, but now it really does look like Twitter has the same amount of stickiness as any social network. The media has desperately been trying to get everyone to hate Elon and get the users to exile themselves from their social network addiction of choice but no one is really budging. So we know the user base isn't going anywhere come hell or high water. But Elon still has a real problem. Twitter needs to generate revenue to survive on it's own if we assume Elon isn't planning on selling his entire Tesla stake to prop Twitter up. So the real question becomes how else do you monetize social networks besides ads?

It's actually been interesting to witness the way the powerful individuals of society wield their corporations to control social media by threatening to withhold advertising since the social media company cannot survive without it. The entire advertising based ecosystem for these social media companies was an informal but effective system of control of their social networks to ensure only thoughts the corporations deemed appropriate were allowed. In that sense, advertising being the basis of social network revenues prevents free speech.

With Twitter, we're seeing the effects of it now because the corporations are wielding this power over revenues as a cudgel to try and crush a Twitter that doesn't only allow the thoughts they deem appropriate. And if Elon doesn't figure out a solution, there will be nothing he can do to prevent Twitter from financially withering away because it was a heavily leveraged buyout and like most of these LBO's you pile on a lot of debt and see if the company survives or not. From the days of TWA to very recently Toys 'R' Us, the general success rate of LBO's is very low and most of the time LBO's are used by "corporate raiders" like Carl Icahn to strip companies of assets and then declare them bankrupt. Elon using an LBO to try and save a company goes against how LBO's typically are supposed to work.
 
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HoodWinked

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I don't drink soda but diet coke is the weird weapon of choice among some very notable people and they drink like 4+ cans PER day.

Warren Buffet
John Carmack
Donald Trump
Bill Gates
 

Meicyn

Member
This is Twitter's former head of trust and safety advocating for kids to use Grindr in his thesis.
I decided to read what was screenshotted on that Tweet, and that’s not what he’s saying at all.

He says that the content on Grindr is inappropriate for minors to be on there. But minors do show up on Grindr anyway through bypassing age filters by lying about their birthdate, which is factually true. He argues that service providers should consider designing their apps in a way so teenagers can safely connect with one another, i.e. filtered away from the adults so we don’t have statutory rape occurring.

That is a completely reasonable take.
 

Toons

Member
Soda is death. I haven't drank an entire regular soda in like 3 years. I started trying to lose weight and my doctor told me to cut out soda. I immediately felt the difference.

You're a stronger man then me but I've weight the same give or take 10 lbs for the last 4 years so I'm doing something right
 

diffusionx

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Honestly it was looking bad the first few weeks, but now it really does look like Twitter has the same amount of stickiness as any social network. The media has desperately been trying to get everyone to hate Elon and get the users to exile themselves from their social network addiction of choice but no one is really budging. So we know the user base isn't going anywhere come hell or high water. But Elon still has a real problem. Twitter needs to generate revenue to survive on it's own if we assume Elon isn't planning on selling his entire Tesla stake to prop Twitter up. So the real question becomes how else do you monetize social networks besides ads?

It's actually been interesting to witness the way the powerful individuals of society wield their corporations to control social media by threatening to withhold advertising since the social media company cannot survive without it. The entire advertising based ecosystem for these social media companies was an informal but effective system of control of their social networks to ensure only thoughts the corporations deemed appropriate were allowed. In that sense, advertising being the basis of social network revenues prevents free speech.

With Twitter, we're seeing the effects of it now because the corporations are wielding this power over revenues as a cudgel to try and crush a Twitter that doesn't only allow the thoughts they deem appropriate. And if Elon doesn't figure out a solution, there will be nothing he can do to prevent Twitter from financially withering away because it was a heavily leveraged buyout and like most of these LBO's you pile on a lot of debt and see if the company survives or not. From the days of TWA to very recently Toys 'R' Us, the general success rate of LBO's is very low and most of the time LBO's are used by "corporate raiders" like Carl Icahn to strip companies of assets and then declare them bankrupt. Elon using an LBO to try and save a company goes against how LBO's typically are supposed to work.
The ad model doesn’t work unless you are Facebook or Google and figured out a way to spy on the entire population of planet Earth at all hours of the day. Like how when I talk about something to someone and I see ads for it on instagram 30 minutes later type of thing. They all swear they’re not using device XYZ to listen to you but we all have had that experience. So unless you are them, and Twitter is not them, you have to find a way to get money from people using the service, period.
 

StreetsofBeige

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Only took him a failed launch, angry companies, and a couple of weeks to realize that maybe using different colors for official accounts might be a better idea than making all the accounts look the same.


It's progress though I guess.
Well its a start.

Twitter has been around for 15 years and never had that idea.
 

PSYGN

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Might be late here. Thought this was interesting.


Nice. All companies should leave Twitter (and social media in general) to escape the toxic cancel culture Twitter harbors. It was funny at first but ultimately a mistake to personify a brand because then they have you by the balls.
 
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This happened last week

Musk was wrong, got schooled by a worker and others, fired worker.

Also this:



"Slow on iphone"

Also when someone at work starts a sentence with "I was told" it's because they are in defense deflect mode and are not confident in what they're saying.

What else you got? Remember you're trying to prove he's actually trying to improve the Android app. We haven't even got to the "because Apple" part of your post.
 

Amiga

Member
Musk was wrong, got schooled by a worker and others, fired worker.

Also this:



"Slow on iphone"

Also when someone at work starts a sentence with "I was told" it's because they are in defense deflect mode and are not confident in what they're saying.

What else you got? Remember you're trying to prove he's actually trying to improve the Android app. We haven't even got to the "because Apple" part of your post.


"trying" is the keyword.
And in a company judgment is dependent on technical experts that is normal. Her it was one guy contradicting several others, And did admit to the issues after getting pressed and excused the bad performance as a tradeoff. Musk did not accept the tradeoff and ordered stripping several things in the code like the mentioned "microservices".
 
"trying" is the keyword.
And in a company judgment is dependent on technical experts that is normal. Her it was one guy contradicting several others, And did admit to the issues after getting pressed and excused the bad performance as a tradeoff. Musk did not accept the tradeoff and ordered stripping several things in the code like the mentioned "microservices".

Yes evidence of trying. Trying is not synonymous with you making stuff up. The one guy said performance could always be improved, which is true. He said RPC calls were zero, Musk pivoted it to be about microservices. Nothing has come after these words, thsts been it.

Whatever it is also apparently affects iPhone so that's your argument that it has something to do with an Apple feud completely fizzled.
 

Amiga

Member
Yes evidence of trying. Trying is not synonymous with you making stuff up. The one guy said performance could always be improved, which is true. He said RPC calls were zero, Musk pivoted it to be about microservices. Nothing has come after these words, thsts been it.


Even if it's an epic fail it still counts as trying.
 

Goalus

Member
What's the problem if Twitter is removed from App Store or Google Play?

I only use Twitter via its mobile web page which is the same as the mobile app. I would bet that the mobile app is essentially just the web app within an OS wrapper.
 

Flatline

Banned
The site has a code of conduct you agree to when you sign up. Is a library suppressing your speech when they tell you to quiet your voice? It's the same concept. Their house, their house rules.


The site has a vague "Code of Conduct" blue haired San Francisco lunatics expoit to ban the wrongthinkers. After years of hypocrisy and ridiculous double standards saying this bullshit means you're either dumb or pretend to be dumb to push your agenda and as per usual with people like you it's the latter.
 

V1LÆM

Gold Member
What's this talk of Apple apparently looking to delist Twitter from the App Store?

Any weight behind it? Would be huge if they took it off but I'll be pissed. I don't really care if Twitter goes down the Shitter but I'd need some other way to follow news and I'm certainly not joining Instagram or Facebook!



This is how frikkin' uninformed and clueless the media talking heads really are. Why should anybody care what these people think?
They say to give to space to hate, but here they are outright telling you to despise their new scapegoat of the month.



The funniest part is how the media attacks are becoming more and more desperate. They are literally begging you to hate Musk now.



Look at this spineless weasel. Dude clearly doesn't want to migrate, but the groupthink and peer pressure are palpable.



Meanwhile Musk is reimplementing essential child protection functions making Twitter a safer place where it actually frikkin' matters.

WTF is Hive? Sounds nasty.

and if that beedy eyed little creep show of a manchild is on it then I'm staying away from it.
 
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Azurro

Banned
Advertisers are not actually leaving? lol

I guess I just imagined all the advertisers leaving and the articles covering them. That's my bad I guess.

That's the media trying to will Twitter out of existence. There's a bit of noise here and there, but they are not leaving, and there's more activity than ever and more users signing up.

Just admit it, Twitter is no longer a platform designed to enforce the woke hate movement and you are salty about that. As I said, you are a perfect barometer, you are crying and screeching, which means the new regulations are working well.
 
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Meicyn

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What's the problem if Twitter is removed from App Store or Google Play?

I only use Twitter via its mobile web page which is the same as the mobile app. I would bet that the mobile app is essentially just the web app within an OS wrapper.
It is, plus the ability to track your mobile device activities with added clarity. I also stick to using Twitter through my browser.
 
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Wildebeest

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So we can conclude that the world has been fully saved now. The evil AI in the future has been fully outsmarted by Elon firing Twitter employees. Time to do the Yub Nub dance.
 

analog_future

Resident Crybaby
Elon Musk's 2022 Wealth Loss Exceeds $100 Billion for First Time

Elon Musk's losses for 2022 topped $100 billion as shares of Tesla Inc. dropped to the lowest level in two years.

The Tesla co-founder is still the world's richest person with a fortune of $169.8 billion, according to the Bloomberg Billionaires Index, even after seeing his net worth shrink by $8.6 billion on Monday. He's down $100.5 billion this year — the most of anyone
 

FunkMiller

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This is the kind of absolute fucking trash that can be labelled as ‘free speech’ by the hard of thinking, that does a great deal of harm.

If Musk seriously wants Twitter to succeed moving forward as a mainstream social media source, he most certainly needs to clamp down on this conspiracy laden, fake ass horseshit as quickly as possible.

 

Moneal

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This is the kind of absolute fucking trash that can be labelled as ‘free speech’ by the hard of thinking, that does a great deal of harm.

If Musk seriously wants Twitter to succeed moving forward as a mainstream social media source, he most certainly needs to clamp down on this conspiracy laden, fake ass horseshit as quickly as possible.


Why? Counter the Ideas. Silencing them just pushes them and their followers further into their beliefs.
 
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I read that thread this morning, very informative. Twitter is going nowhere.

Now the guys urging their followers to move to Hive are fucking delusional. Just pure virtue signalling. Love it or hate it Twitter is the place to be for any sort of discourse. No one is going to move to another platform to talk in the void or follow 3-5 accounts. Minds and Hive have been trying for a long time.
 
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