Vestal
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Funny thing is, the majority of people don't give a shit about this. I would argue that most consumers actually like the idea of a centralized app store for their devices.
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Funny thing is, the majority of people don't give a shit about this. I would argue that most consumers actually like the idea of a centralized app store for their devices.
AnotherDayAnotherDollar
Banned
Musk could pull it off. Team up with another privately held company with an older digital store than..
Steam Mobile OS
Or he could buy Valve and give me L4D3, Portal 3, and Half Life 3. That would be worth the price of admission.
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Platinumstorm
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On Nov. 4, the company notified the Colorado Department of Labor and Employment through the Worker Adjustment & Retraining Notification (WARN) Act of approximately 87 layoffs. Terminations will start Jan. 4 for the following employees:
- 14 first and midlevel officials and managers
- 70 professionals
- 1 sales worker
- 2 administrative support workers
The majority of the employees who resigned were engineers, according to the company's WARN letter.
Vestal
Junior Member
Bleeding more engineers.. I feel sorry for whatever is left of IT Support staff.
3liteDragon
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akimbo009
Gold Member
.4 seconds. Nice. Out of.....? Percentages matter here. Again, he can't help him self since there's a huge range of use-cases, scenarios, etc the app would benefit from latency improvements - each measurable - but just random "core services"... So vague. So random. So unhelpful - but sounds smart!
strange headache
Banned
"Twitter got improved."
"Reeee not nearly enough should have solved world peace too!"
You're trying way too hard
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ShadowLag
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Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
The irony of this post given the context lol"Twitter got improved."
"Reeee not nearly enough should have solved world peace too!"
You're trying way too hard
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Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
So why accuse others of which you are also guilty.
strange headache
Banned
Elon Musk and the hardcore cult of Diet Coke
Twitter owner Elon Musk shared a photo of his bedside table littered with cans of Diet Coke, reminding us of the power the beverage has.
web.archive.org
"Musk is drinking diet pop and so is the DEVIL!!!!"
If Musk bought Valve the first thing he would do is fire most of the team and throw away the network drives containing copies of unlisted games "If people can't buy these then what's the point?".
pramod
Banned
Except we werent hoping twitter would turn around and ban everyone on the left. We just wanted an even playing field.
MisterFalcon
Member
That's quite a different picture from the '10 managers for each coder, this is why nothing gets done' Musk is claiming. Unless there are indeed 700 managers for those 70 professionals and Musk decided to keep 686 of them.
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Swift_Star
Banned
No, I didn't. Maybe because you lived in some bubbles where people kept parroting this you believed that absurd. In the real world it never was partisan.
But Musk firing people for disagreeing with him and buying twitter to "own the libs" shows that he is the one that is partisan and authoritarian.
As usual with these people, they do precisely what they accuse others of doing.
Facts.
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LegendOfKage
Member
If I'm ever in a conversation with someone who seems to completely disagree with me and any point I try to make, to the extent that it feels like they're saying black is really white and up is actually down, I find it useful to stop replying to them and instead try to counter my own argument with their point of view. I consider how I would argue their worldview if I were in their shoes, and then find whoever is closest to what I perceive is a stronger argument and reply to them instead.
As they say, iron sharpens iron, and testing your beliefs against the strongest version of opposing thought that you can find benefits both parties. Doing this has even caused me to change my own mind on various issues a few times throughout the years. Anyhow, just a thought.
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FunkMiller
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Well, if he’s going to allow anti-vax bullshit to proliferate again, then he shouldn’t be surprised if major advertisers continue to leave the platform. I can see it giving Apple the grounds they’re looking for to drop it, certainly.
Amiga
Member
Musk literally owns the company.
Swift_Star
Banned
Doesn't make him any less of a partisan authoritarian.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
This whole love/hate fiasco has been divided on ideological and political lines, and that's a fact. No matter the tip-toeing and disingenuous bullshit some try to vomit in here."facts"
But if i understood correctly, the bottom line is people are just hating on him because of media constant negative coverage of his gaffes and not of other bullshit happening.
hmmmm
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FunkMiller
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Disagree. I have zero issue with Musk having a political leaning one way or another. Everyone is entitled to their opinions. I don't hate or love Musk... because he's a business man. If anyone has emotions that strong towards or against someone like that, then they have some fairly major issues of their own, that have nothing to do with politics.
This thread is about how Musk is handling the takeover of Twitter... and there are strong arguments to suggest he's not doing that good a job, considering some of the movements being made by major companies.
I said it a few pages back, but you can't have a sensible, reasonable discourse about this if you're biased heavily towards one political standpoint or another.
And it should also be noted that it's only you Americans who see this whole thing through the prism of divisive internal politics. The rest of us are a little more objective about what's happening, and while there is a political dimension to what's going on, it's not nearly as important to those outside the endless stupidity of the hyper partisan American political landscape. Thank god for that politics ban.
DeepEnigma
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I am talking about what is being signal boosted in the MSM and social media paradigms 24/7. It's the same playbook as OMB. Same exact.
And I said "some," not all in this thread.
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FunkMiller
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In your country, yes. That's kind of my point. Believe it or not, there's not much of a political dimension to the reporting of all of this in Europe or Australia. Twitter is, after all, international. Musk's takeover is being reported as such... not as another front in the ongoing culture wars that plague absolutely everything coming out of the US. The general attitude is: "what the fuck is he doing?" rather than either "He's saving Twitter!" or "He's destroying Twitter!" ... depending on which news channel you watch.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
The EU was literally flexing their muscles with IdPol clowning. As if they were totally blind to "hate speech" against certain groups prior, actual rogue and terrorist regimes having accounts and spreading their hate filled messages, etc.. They now speak up based entirely on their ideological push. Spare me "only in America" diatribe.
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FunkMiller
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You were talking the media.... how the msm and social media are covering this takeover. You said that it was all being talked about along ideological and political lines. I pointed out that's really only in the USA. It's not much of a dimension to reporting outside it.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I will take your word for it since I am not inundated with MSM in EU/AUS.
FunkMiller
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Fair play. I recognise how much of a political football this whole thing is in the USA, but just think it's important to present the outside perspective... especially when the vast majority of Twitter users are not in America!
Thank you for mentioning this. that was a thought I had too. Media presents the reality of different interests with multiple political parties in other countries rather than a binary which could contribute to objectivity. As well as avoiding contrarianism.
It may be the reason others see Twitter as more moderate in character, even if it did have a left slant at the office in American terms. It makes Musk's claims that Twitter needed a drastic change due to extreme political control appear as irrational overreactions to a poltical narrative and not rational careful responses to a reality. If there were a reality to Musk's claim then the wide variety of moderate users and advertisers on Twitter would have been rebelling before as they are now that they are experiencing an extreme political reaction from Musk derived, seemingly, from a fantasy to save the world from suicide.
The Sam Harris thing got me thinking it's possible most aren't going to care about whatever Musk is teasing to reveal. Expecting scrutiny, some humour, while everyone goes "oh well. anyways." as Musk tries to make it out to be more than it is.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
No, it does not. They were literally silencing what they viewed as political opponents and suppressing information around election times.
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BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
I see this claimed from time to time. Do you have an example where someone was suspended for a belief, and not because they broke one of the rules?
Banning someone for saying men aren't women though is moderate? How bout saying OK dude? That is moderate moderation?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
"The rules" were never equally applied and only pulled out of the ass towards one party and its supporters, especially around election time(s) along with selective suppression of information. I mean shit, they never even "fact checked" one side until Musk took over. Now you have the current WH deleting their tweets when they receive one.
On a lighter note,
Billbofet
Member
Even though I know it's half-parody (Babylon Bee), it's sad but kinda true.
Yet Tik Tok remains. Nothing to see here.
Hate speech, antivaxxers, etc all have political wings and, at the first hint of breaking rules of conduct, should be banned at any time.
A few examples may go too far, that happens all the time everywhere in public messaging. Mitigation doesn't involve getting hysterical. Adults use multiple sources to make consensus.
Hah, who needs examples when there is one sided victim fantasy to be a hero in.
Don't follow their bans, like many, but they didn't ban everyone that did this for this, and without getting into any case specifics the underlying point relevant to this was that the Twitter userbase was comfortable enough with it to stay and only fight back for review in particular instances. Musk trying to claim they are politically mind controlled to be completely accepting such moderation is quite a reach.
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How bout learn to code?
Where could they go? Parler was blackballed by Apple and Google as soon as it started becoming a threat to Twitter.
Or for a different reason.
Mistake
Member
You’re really splitting hairs when it’s their rules that changed to cover their own beliefs. So it’s only natural people get suspended for “breaking the rules.” You can go back and see their old terms of service before things went nuts in 2015.
Babylon bee was quite firm on their stance of traditional gender roles, but was suspended for their “man of the year” joke about levine. Lots of other accounts as well for dead naming or saying men aren’t women.
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BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
Well, there are plenty of people on Twitter that espouse the beliefs I assume you're referring to - they've been there for years. Some are rather extreme in those beliefs, in fact. So no offense but I think you're seeing bias where there isn't any. For whatever reason, some people just break the rules more often than others.
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IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Yes because Parler was full of content promoting a violent insurrection that then happened. Shit was posted all over the internet.
It's now back up after upping their moderation strength.. same thing Apple is probably questioning Twitter on right onw.
We have reports that entire teams of content moderators were laid off (including most of the team responsible for working to stop child porn in the south east asia region), exactly what Apple has showed concerns about before, and let apps back on the store when they worked to improve their moderation.. exact thing various European regulators are concerned about, the same regulators that matter to Apple and Google...
But everything is a political conspiracy theory.
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Mistake
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I tried parler a long time ago and was put off just as much as twitter. With musk, the current mess is something we can all enjoy. Like a dumpster fire keeping you warm
Hunter Bidens laptop from hell comes to mind.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
The difference is that Facebook and Twitter at least tried to moderate themselves. Parlor was a free for all. Also Parlor was NEVER a threat to Twitter. It never even came close. At it's height it was basically "We have Truth Social at home."
Advertisers and App Stores don't want to be associated with platforms that don't properly police their content. It's bad for business.
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BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
Twitter's Ads Problems Are Even Worse Behind the Scenes
Teams that run critical ad systems dwindle to one or two staffers. Lost ad revenue adds up during what should be the most profitable time of the year.
gizmodo.com
DeaDPo0L84
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You're not going to convince these people. They're so deep in their trenches they refuse to concede even an inch when you can factually disprove whatever wild narrative they're spinning.
See my last post.
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