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How disturbing is the video? Is it quite graphic?
really disturbing, but not that graphic
How disturbing is the video? Is it quite graphic?
It's hard to argue it was a "rash decision" when he wrote a 23 page manifesto. He put a lot of time and thought into his decision. I certainly agree that this guy, along with most other shooters in similar situations, are certainly disturbed, just on the basis that they were actually able to carry out their respective heinous crimes. However, I don't believe that this necessarily means that he (and others) are legally insane at the time they commit those crimes.Deciding to kill two people is a rash decision. Premeditation doesn't mean he wasn't disturbed. His obsessiveness and obsessive premeditation point toward being disturbed more than not.
I hope his stupid ass lives so he can get life in prison or the death penalty.
The General Manager just said on CNN the shooter and the reporter didn't even know eachother.
She was there for 1 year but Vester got fired 2 years ago.
Reporter and cameraman were so young too shit
The Associated Press ‏@AP 27s28 seconds ago
BREAKING: State Police: Suspect in TV shooting ran off road, crashed, was suffering from gunshot wound
Shot himself while driving the vehicle...endangering others even further.
All major shootings are front page news.
It's a significant story, wouldn't you say?
Why are the police making the media delete footage at the scene where he shot himself?
Just at the scene of the suspects shooting on I-66. Police told me to delete footage or lose Franz Strasser ‏@franzstrasser 34m34 minutes ago
Just at the scene of the suspects shooting on I-66. Police told me to delete footage or lose camera.
Franz Strasser ‏@franzstrasser 25m25 minutes ago
Was too far away to get any good footage. One officer threatened to tow my car and take my camera.
https://twitter.com/franzstrasser
I think people really need to stop talking about the video, no?
For those just coming into this thread, there are friends of the victims ITT
Not exactly graphic, just very strange and disturbing to see it all go down.How disturbing is the video? Is it quite graphic?
I thought it was quite tame. The barrier seems to be what cable television will show, and what you can find on here. Over the years with various news stories both new and old there seems to be an astounding amount of content that doesn't translate to the other medium.
I thought it was quite tame.
24 years old. Sounds like this was her first job.
This is gut wrenching
Watching the POV video, did the first shots hit her?
It seems he aimed directly at her and nothing happened, she just ran away. R.I.P to both of them, I honestly thought they ran away from it.
How was this a major shooting?
It's tragic, but in the grand scheme of things, no it is not. Gun murders happen literally every day in the US. Outside of the novelty of "live killing on-air", what are the wider implications of this that warrant international coverage?
Let's face it, we know why. It's because this is the first time that people can get to feel as if they were there by watching the video.
Cops being cops is my guess.
it doesn't matter. Really it's a nonsense argument between people correcting other people on the philosophy of good and evil. He's not absolved of his crimes mentally ill or not. He could've chose to get clarity on the events of his termination and acted accordingly. Many mentally ill people have sought help before they've hurt themselves and others. This person did not and people have to suffer because of it. You're right. The distinction at this point is moot.I'm not sure I understand the dispute here among the not mentally ill, mentally ill crowds.
Even is he was mentally ill (which by the way I'm inclined to believe) that doesn't mean he doesn't know right from wrong and have the ability to act on that knowledge.
Being mentally ill doesn't always excuse you from doing terrible things. There are plenty of cases where someone who was mentally ill could very well have avoided causing harm to others but chose not to do so, and cases where the ability to differentiate between right and wrong was not in their control.
If we take that to be true than what does the distinction matter in this case?
I'm being serious with this question in case I wasn't clear. It seems people are getting heated as to whether or not he was mentally ill and I'm curious as to why
It's tame in the amount of physical violence.
But seeing two people oblivious that they are about to die as the gunman casually waves the gun in front of the shot from his own camera is horrifying.
Why are the police making the media delete footage at the scene where he shot himself?
Just at the scene of the suspects shooting on I-66. Police told me to delete footage or lose Franz Strasser ‏@franzstrasser 34m34 minutes ago
Just at the scene of the suspects shooting on I-66. Police told me to delete footage or lose camera.
Franz Strasser ‏@franzstrasser 25m25 minutes ago
Was too far away to get any good footage. One officer threatened to tow my car and take my camera.
https://twitter.com/franzstrasser
It's very graphic. What you just described is the definition of graphic, something "vivid and clearly effective."Not exactly graphic, just very strange and disturbing to see it all go down.
Boy, is this wrong...Or maybe so that deaths of two individuals aren't floating around facebook for the next 10 years to torment the families?
Or maybe so that deaths of two individuals aren't floating around facebook for the next 10 years to torment the family?
How was this a major shooting?
It's because this is the first time that people can get to feel as if they were there by watching the video.
She got hired in May apparently. 3 Months on the job.
Hearing a woman scream for her life is always terrifying...![]()
Those videos aren't what was being discussed.
Not an insult, just a question: Is it a case of cognitive dissonance when it's as obvious as this? Like, you know he did it but you have to assume he's innocent until proven guilty?
Today was her last day. She and her fiance were moving to another city to start a new life. They had a party planned for her when she got back to the station.
Her fiance watched her die on camera from the news room. He's a director there.
Or maybe so that deaths of two individuals aren't floating around facebook for the next 10 years to torment the families?
Seems to be a disgruntled ex-employee that was let go because of racial reasons.
Watching the POV video, did the first shots hit her?
It seems he aimed directly at her and nothing happened, she just ran away. R.I.P to both of them, I honestly thought they ran away from it.
Incorrect. It was the camera man's fiancee's last day.Today was her last day. She and her fiance were moving to another city to start a new life. They had a party planned for her when she got back to the station.
Her fiance watched her die on camera from the news room. He's a director there.
Cops being cops is my guess.
Adrenaline was the only thing that kept her up and running, actually.When she's screaming she's already shot. She's his first target. It's just the adrenaline and nerves haven't hit her yet. She most likely fell down a few seconds later once it all kicked in.
Today was her last day. She and her fiance were moving to another city to start a new life. They had a party planned for her when she got back to the station.
Her fiance watched her die on camera from the news room. He's a director there.
It's actually the camera man and his fiance.