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The Stig
Banned
same here
digdug2
Member
"Because you can't handle it" (in italics). You're a fucking dork. I'll tell you how much I care, I didn't even read your wall of bullshit and I still call bullshit.Because obviously you can't fucking handle it, and need to go on posting pages and pages of memes and bitter "Who they think they fooling?" posts about a guy's personal resume.
Most people who know that big games are "AAA games" don't know have any clue why they know that or what it means. They've just heard that the top-selling games are "AAA", and so that must mean something, right?
You will never see "AAA" on the back of a box, or in an advertisement for a game, or probably even a press release announcing a game. (You see it in studio announcements or new IP commencements, but once the actual product is announced, those terms are rarely mentioned outside of boilerplate.) It's not a term to tell gamers what to buy. It's a term to tell investors what to pay into, or for distributors to put on their priority list, or for advertisers to make room on their docket for ad buys.
I'm not gatekeeping, I'm trying to inform you that it does not matter and is not a real thing being advertised to the public. The public can know a publicly-traded company's product budgets (if that is part of corporate disclosure,) that's fine if that's interesting to understand the business, but as is obviously evidenced by this thread being about quality rather than production/marketing investment, it is clearly not something which translates into understanding the market better. It's just pissing people off here for no good reason. The priority designation of As on an executive's ledger should be as important to you as the celebrity hot list telling bouncers who to escort to the champaign room and who has to wait for a hand-stamp in line at a club.
...Just pretend that As never exist and your life will be better for it. Even for those inside the industry, it's mostly meaningless.
Kerotan
Member
I just recently played all far crys.
Far Cry 6 is a 7/10 at best. The dlc is actually better imo.
Far cry 5 I'd give a 9+/10
Far Cry 4 9/10
Far Cry 3 9/10
Far Cry 1/2 probably 8/10
Maybe they should go back to AAA gaming this quadruple shit isn't working out. The worst part about Far cry 6 is hurk didn't make an appearance.
Far Cry 6 is a 7/10 at best. The dlc is actually better imo.
Far cry 5 I'd give a 9+/10
Far Cry 4 9/10
Far Cry 3 9/10
Far Cry 1/2 probably 8/10
Maybe they should go back to AAA gaming this quadruple shit isn't working out. The worst part about Far cry 6 is hurk didn't make an appearance.
MiguelItUp
Member
Labeling anything "AAAA" is just a sign of desperation.
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hemo memo
You can't die before your death
Nah that’s A
WitchHunter
Banned
A-AA-AAA-AAAA is akin to a game that has a "soulslike" stamp. Or when I hear metroidvania or roguelike... g et the fukka outta here idiotic label everything monkeys.Me every time I hear "AAAA Game..."
WitchHunter
Banned
Nop, it's the idiot tax. People See it has one more A, dey gonna run and buy.
duck_sauce
Member
I dont even know what AAA Game means.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Gonna start referring to games with Battery classifications if they keep it up. Maybe one day they will make a D or C type game or wake up and they make AA games again. AAA and now AAAA games seem to just be very small games with not nearly enough application or battery life to even remotely consider. Most aren't even replayable(rechargable).
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
I don't understand why it's such a controversial thread-worthy thing. It's a meaningless distinction that Ubisoft literally made up to make their games sound really big and chock-full. It's completely meaningless.
Honestly who cares?
Honestly who cares?
MiguelItUp
Member
Well, then it's both, lol.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
How much money they waste.
SportsFan581
Member
AAAA is getting a bit tired. Waiting for the next AAAAA game for something that really stands out. $1b budget or go home.
yurinka
Member
Yes, AAA means big budget game, nowadays normally a team of over people aprox. 1000-2500, and a aprox. a 4-9 years long development.
AAAA means way more expensive than the average AAA, aprox. 3000-10000 people involved and aprox. 5-10 years of development.
Regarding Far Cry 6, over 7000 worked on it and was under development from 2016 to 2021 (including DLC). Regarding performance, its launch year meant the top grossing year for the Far Cry series. They aren't "desperate", they are perfectly fine.
Examples of AAA games: Elden Ring or Tekken 8 were made by around 1800 people.
Examples of AAAA games: Diablo IV (>9000 people) or Starfield (>4000 people).
Far Cry 6 was a AAAA title, this is a fact.
And it wasn't a marketing thing, it was a guy in Linkedin mentioning a project where he worked, correctly labeling the size of the project.
If a few uncultured haters in a forum have no idea what they are talking about it isn't their issue.
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Hudo
Member
Not sure what you point is but:
<Choose according to your position>:
a) Good for you, man!
b) I'm sorry, bro. Chin up!
duck_sauce
Member
In that case skull and bones truly is an AAAA game
yurinka
Member
They didn't randomly start their games AAAA. It's an industry standard for games way more expensive than he average AAA game. Far Cry 6 was a AAAA game, was made by over 7000 people. And btw caused that year to be the top grossing one of history of its franchise.
You can't just randomly start calling your games AAAA, you fucking clown. Look what happened when you did that with Skull & Bones.
Are these people just legit retarded? I'm starting to think they are.
If there is someone retarded or a clown here isn't Ubisoft or the guy who wrote in his CV that Far Cry 6 is a AAAA.
Why, because you hate them? They are very successful, the top grossing publisher in Europe and one of the biggest ones in the world.
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Bernardougf
Member
Well I played for "free" and enjoy it for some time ... too much unnecessary bloatness as usual for this games and the story is kind of meh ... on par for Ubisoft games 5-7is/10
Josemayuste
Member
I've already played some AAAA games this gen, they're called: Elden Ring, and Baldur's Gate 3.
JordiENP
Member
Far Cry 6 a AAAA made by 7000 people, mediocre at best. Meanwhile Nintendo with ps3 graphics and 300 people created a game that defined a generation, a sequel that surpassed that game and sold 51 million copies. Assassin's Creed Odyssey is one of my favorite games ever made so no I don't "hate them"
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yurinka
Member
Whatever is your personal opinion regarding Ubisoft or Nintendo games is ok.
But that is a different and unrelated topic to if a game where 7000 have worked is AAAA or not, or if these games, their company and leadership is successful or not.
The thing is, even if you don't like Far Cry 6 it has been very successful and Ubisoft is one of the biggest publishers. So their CEO won't step down because you don't like one of their games or because you think some employee was wrong when updating his CV.
No, AAAA just means considerably bigger budget/development/team/project than the average AAA.
Which is the case of games like Far Cry 6, Diablo IV or Starfield just a new a few just looking at the amount of people who worked on them.
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Gojiira
Member
‘Considerably bigger budget/development/team/project’ Yes mate…Missed my point completely, if they truly were the biggest studios with the biggest budget with the best or most devs that their products ie Far Cry 6 would be the best on the market but THEY ARENT…
chilichote
Member
I'm currently playing on the PS4 and think it's just a Far Cry^^
And I have a bit of a feeling it has more little bugs than the parts before it.
And I have a bit of a feeling it has more little bugs than the parts before it.
CamHostage
Member
...And yet, PoP: The Lost Crown did 1/21th the sales figures of Far Cry 6.
Ubisoft games are known for having a high level of production work in it, that's part of why people buy their games, for the high-end technology and meticulously researched design elements. Ubi helped save the Notre-Dame de Paris because they had previously sent researchers to document every stone and beam in the Cathedral for one Assassin's Creed landmark. That's just what the company does, and what buyers expect from them. It costs money to do all that, increasingly so as time goes on.
Budget is not an indicator of quality. It can help, it can be attractive (and that attraction people have to gloss and detail is why producers spend the money in the first place,) but it's not a reason to buy a game.
Also, it's not pitched to the public as a reason. The only way any of us gamers know even vague budget figures of games is because somebody read an investor disclosure or found a resume like this, then brought it to a forum like this, often for the purpose of memeing, "Can you believe this shit??" Yes, I can believe that PoP LC was made for less than FC6; I can also understand why each game was made the way it was, because that's what those games called for. It doesn't make sense that something Lost Crown would have ballooned to $130m in development cost, and it doesn't seem possible that FC6 could have been made on the cheap. That's just how these games are made.
username12
Member
Not interested. Waiting for AAAAA.
CamHostage
Member
No, Yurinka got your point: if you spend the most money, you should make the best product.
That works in peanut butter manufacturing.
= Quality ingredients in, quality product out.
It doesn't work the same in art or entertainment production. Mad Max: Fury Road was made for over $150 million dollars; John Wick was made for $20m. Both outstanding action films from around the same time period, both hits in the market, but they were made differently and ran up their own production budgets.
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DirtyBast8rd
Member
thief183
Member
Neather do I, but we are the one out of touch, the cool kids hate on Ubisoft, whatever they do. I'm kinda sure that if they say "we are against slavery" someone will come up and dismiss it as BS just cause is them.
cinnamonandgravy
Member
dont worry man, life gets better
hang in there
yurinka
Member
I didn't say they are the best. I said Far Cry 6 is a AAAA game because its budget must have been way larger than the usual AAA game, because their development time was normal for a AAA but the amount of workers was like 4 times as big as the average AAA game.
The only game I found with a bigger amount of workers on its game credits than Far Cry 6 is Diablo IV.
More budgets, more development time or more workers doesn't mean better game. Just means more expensive budget. A game made by a person in a few months can be great and a game made during many years by several thousands of workers can be crap. And the opposite too.
Size or budget doesn't equal quality. Just the scale of the project.
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Neon Xenon
Member
I got Far Cry 6 for free with my keyboard, a Corsair K100 RGB. It does some kinda cool keyboard effects with events in the game, but nothing massively interesting.
I think I played Far Cry 6 for about 3 or so hours to say "That is definitely a Far Cry game." And then I uninstalled it. It's not bad at all, but it is definitely more of the same.
I think I played Far Cry 6 for about 3 or so hours to say "That is definitely a Far Cry game." And then I uninstalled it. It's not bad at all, but it is definitely more of the same.
cripterion
Member
Quick info for you guys, they also consider the same for Skull & Bones.... Let that sink in.
Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
I think there's only one "AAAA" game and it's not out til 2025..
I’m hyped for this game too but we don’t even know what the scope of it is.
I doubt it’ll do anything industry changing, but anything could happen. Likely just a great evolution on a fantastic formula— continuing AAA standard.