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Ubuntu 12.10: Thread of QQ'ing about Quantal Quetzals

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Vanillalite

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Introducing: Ubuntu 12.10
Code Name: Quantal Quetzal
Release Date: October 18th 2012


INFO: The latest GNU/Linux release from Canonical

QUANTAL
quan·tal [kwon-tl]
adjective Physics
of or pertaining to quanta or quantum mechanics.

QUETZAL
quet·zal [ket-sahl]
noun
any of several large Central and South American trogons of the genus Pharomachrus, having golden-green and scarlet plumage, especially P. mocino (resplendent quetzal), the national bird of Guatemala: rare and possibly endangered.

What's New:

- Linux Kernel 3.5

Quetzal is going to ship with a bug fixed and tested version of the 3.5 Linux kernel. The 3.5 kernel adds things like meta data checksums for those running ext4, networking improvements such as a new algorithm to fight bufferbloat as well as checkpoint/restoring TCP connections, and adding in an Android like opportunistic suspend.

As always the best place to get the patch notes is over at Kernel Newbies which both has a quick summary as well as details for those that want to dig into things!

Moving Beyond the LTS

So the 12.04 release was a big deal seeing as Precise was a Long Term Support or LTS release. With 12.10 it's once again time to try and move beyond and see just what can be created in time for the next LTS release in a few releases.

This means evolving Unity and trying to take it to the next level, honing in on even greater cloud integration in both the desktop and more importantly the server editon of Ubuntu, and the usual raft of changes to try and push the distro forward to new heights. Some stuff will be welcome, some stuff will be controverseal, and some stuff might seem rather off the wall. All of this will round up to help create Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal though!

Dekstop:

Unity Updates and All Rolled Into One -

So with Ubuntu 12.10 we see the latest version of Unity, 6.8.0, that will the version in the final release of Quetzal. There aren't a lot of sweeping changes for those running higher end systems, but there is a big switch for those running older computers.

Unity 2d as a separate product is no more. There is only Unity 3d for all now with a special LLVMPipe for systems without GPUs to do all of the 3d stuff which pushes most of the work over to the CPU. This was controversal at 1st, and some have said it seems Ubuntu might be leaving behind lower specs systems the latest push of the 6.8.0 Unity seems to alleveate a lot of these initial concerns. As can be seen here over on LaunchPad the jerky performance was seen not as just a sign of the times, but as a bug needed to be fixed. It seems this hurrdle was rectified during the beta phase of Quetzal bring descent speed and performance to older desktops.

The good thing here is there isn't a need to support a separate Unity 2d with a different framework along side of Unity 3d so everything and everyone can be updated together and the extra work can go into something everyone will experience verses segmenting into two different Gnome Shells.

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Unity 6.8.0 also brings with it a host of other smaller editions such as new icons in the dash as seen above. You also now have the ability to close a window inside the spread with a middle click. Also you can close invidual windows when you click on an app that has multiple windows to bring up the app spread. Oh yeah and they added in a photo lens to go along with all the other lenses which was just a logical next edition.

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Like I said there are a lot of smaller things in here such as adding in a time zone applet, but nothing really totally earth shatter at least with regards to the dash. There are other issues at stake here, but we'll get to those. Let's move on shall we?

Unity: Previews

One new feature that is making it into Unity in Quetzal is the preview feature. Instead of just looking up a program in the dash and only being able to open said app you can now preview said app (provided the app has a preview associated with it). You can right click and then you are given a little preview of just what the app is and does with a screen shot and a description. It also allows you to download or uninstall right from the preview pane.

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It also integrates with things like Ubuntu Music Store results so you can right click on an album and get larger album art along with the track listening. Plus you can listen to snippets right in the preview pane without having to load the music program. Of course it integrates with tunes already in your music folder as well.

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Web "Apps" Come to Quetzal

So Web App integration is being slowly built into Ubuntu. With Quetzal you can install hooks to certain commonly used websites that allow the site to integrate into things like the dash, hud, and messaging menu. So far the support for web apps is optional on a site by site basis. As for whether the site actually does something useful with the integration verses just becoming a glorified bookmark that's also on a site by site basis.

That being said it can be used in some cool ways as seen in this picture with Google Docs integrating with the new HUD mechanic introduced in 12.04.

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There are other examples to such as Last.FM radio integrating with the Ubuntu Sound menu and giving you play/pause/skip button access right in the menu.

The downside is you still have to have the "app" open aka the web page. It just gives you the extra functionality as well as an extra icon on the unity bar of said app. You get access by for now using either Firefox or Chromium and visiting a site that has app hooks. As soon as you visit a site like say Gmail you'll get a little notification in the top left side of the brower asking if you want to install the web app. You can chose not to as well as tell it to never ask you again if you so chose. Work is being done to support more web browsers if you use something like say Midori or Opera.

Amazon: The Controversy, Compromise, and all that Jazz

So one interesting sticking point stemming off of the web apps thing is Canonical has struck a deal with Amazon to have the Amazon web app preinstalled. It allows allows for things to be searched for in the dash and then results culled from Amazon to which you can click and buy. The idea here being that Canonical gets a small kickback for each sale sent Amazon's way through this web app integration. Now of course this being the default caught the ire of many in the open source community. They just see this as unnecessary as well as a privacy invasion. Plus it ads in the potential for NSFW things to pop up in the dash based on whatever is being searched for.

This being said after all of the back and forth between Canonical and the community we've come to a point where it's still going to be included and installed by default. They added a legal disclaimer in the dash. Plus you can turn it off and uninstall if you so chose to make it a non issue. It's not what many of the people who dislike the idea want I'll admit, but it does make the issue for the casual person not really a big deal as you can just get rid of it and go about your way.

New Combined Menu

The two menus, user and system, as seen in the pic bellow

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have been combined into one menu to stream line the desktop menu system.

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It's not a drastic change, but it's part of Canonical trying to clean up and polish every little aspect of Ubuntu as this stage of the game. For what it's worth I hate going back to 12.04 systems with the separate menus even though it's a little thing.

Theme Tweaks to Ambiance and Radiance as well as new Messenger Icons

Mark Shuttleworth said early on in the Quetzal development cycle that he wanted to shoot for a more "Origami" look through the system in both the standard default dark and light themes. Not to say this is the look actually achieved, but the themes have been tweaked like always. Things like rounded corners and softer gradients help to round out the Ambiance and Radiance themes to a more fully featured look.

They also added in different messaging icons that denote things like mixed messages from different protocols or your availability status such as busy or offline .

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The theme changes carry over to the login screen as well. They shifted the login box placement, added in rounded corners, changed the font size etc... to go along with the once logged in changes. It's also worth noting you get a button now that brings up a menu listing of the different installed desktop environments you can log into.

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Remote Desktop Access

Speaking of the login screen you now get the ability to use remote desktop access out of the box directly from the login screen. You still need to know all of your info to get this to work, but you can link all of it with the Ubuntu Single Sign In. After things are linked together you don't need to enter all of the info. You just use your Ubuntu Single Sign In username and password. Then boom you are good to go.

Supposedly at the present time ICA (Citrux), RDP, VMWare View are being supported. There could be more so don't shoot the messenger on this one. It's a start at the very least and a cool feature for enterprise users!

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Applications:

This is one front where all is basically quiet. Nothing much has changed other than the addition of the Amazon and Ubuntu Music web apps coming preinstalled. Everything else pretty much stays as it is with 12.04. Of course you'll get your usual round of updates like Firefox will be version 16.01 when Quetzal ships, but there aren't any big new apps or app replacements in 12.10. Canonical as has basically stayed the course, and they are working on curating their app store as a whole.

One Hundered Paper Cuts Project

A great idea that was brought back during the Koala days called the One Hundred Paper Cuts project has continued on in Ubuntu 12.04. This quiet honestly is probably the best general crowd sourcing idea that Ubuntu has gotten over the past few years, and it's nice to see it's been included as a working idea on each version of Ubuntu since 9.10.

It's also worth noting the project has the goal of fixing things an average user would encounter. If it's something remote or something only a few power users might encounter it's not on the project list. The people involved with the Paper Cuts project want to try and squash the stuff that's going to hit the widest variety of Ubuntu users.

This all being said the project is rather old now, and it's currently undergoing a transformation due to it being older with a lack of enthusiasm/participation. You can read all about the changes over at the Ubuntu Wiki section titled the Future of the Paper Cuts Project.


Ubuntu Server: Quetzal Edition

Nothing earth shattering on this front, but some changes none the less. The Ubuntu server edition now no longer has an Ubuntu user prepopulated. The wiki explains it as thus...

"Starting with Ubuntu 12.10, the Ubuntu Cloud Images no longer have the 'ubuntu' user pre-populated in the images. The 'ubuntu' user is now created on first boot by cloud-init unless instructed otherwise. This allows easy creation of instances with no 'ubuntu' user and even no users.
"

They updated Tomcat to version 7 as it's the newest release from Apache even though version 6 is still supported. Like many of these things it's strongly advised to upgrade your existing setup to version 7. They also added in experimental testing for the next version of Open Stack aka Folsom. They are still testing packages though as not really intended to run on something mission critical. More than likely though if you have a mission critical server you are just sticking with the most recent LTS release of Ubuntu or using a different distro all together such as CentOS.

You can read more about the server changes that are included here at the Ubuntu Server Wiki for the 2nd Beta.
 

Vanillalite

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Other Spinoffs -

Kubuntu 12.10:

One of the most popular if not THE most popular Ubuntu spinoff is Kubuntu aka Ubuntu with KDE as it's default interface. You're getting your usual ie latest version of KDE so 4.9, regular round of program updates, and a handful of bug fixes.

Kubuntu


Kubuntu is now following suit with LightDM becoming the default login manager. KDE Telepathy is now the default IM client since Kopete is no longer being actively supported. Kontact has Facebook and Google integration now. There are new settings for hooking up printers, configuring Walcom tablets, and managing color on monitors printers etc...

If KDE and Ubuntu is your thing there is no reason you won't update to the latest version. You can look at more of feature set here.

Xubuntu 12:10

Here we have another ever more popular spinoff called Xubuntu. This like Kubuntu tries to pull from the Ubuntu base with a different GUI, and Xubuntu goes with XFCE. Now Xubuntu became rather popular two release cycles ago seeing XFCE had gotten a major update to 4.8 and Ubuntu had switched to Unity for it's shell. In particular a lot of GAFers on a range of systems and not just older ones which XFCE is known to work well on made the jump as XFCE was clean, fast, feature rich, and very Gnome 2.3 like. Xubuntu 12.10 will be shipping with XFCE 4.10.

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New features for the Quetzal version of Xubuntu include "updated artwork, including new wallpaper, documentation looks and updates to LightDM, Greybird and Ubiquity slideshow" according to the wiki.

Lubuntu 12.10:

Lubuntu like Xubuntu tries to shoot for a more lightweight desktop approach. Where Xubuntu goes for XFCE Lubuntu goes for LXDE. The Quetzal version of Lubuntu is going for a new look to try and redefine just what Lubuntu feels like. They have completely redone the icons, have a new default wallpaper, theme tweaks, and improving application integration with the new look.

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There are other changes as well such as a new version of pcmanfm and a program called catfish being preinstalled as a search tool. You can read about all the changes over at the wiki of course! Oh yeah and they redid the Lubuntu website in Drupal 7 over the summer as well.

EdUbuntu 12.10:

Also get your normal round of EdUbuntu aka Educational Ubuntu. The biggest change for EdUbuntu 12.04 is the inclusion of LTSP 5.3 aka a terminal project used to help do installs over a large number of computers. This should allow easier roll out of the distros at schools, colleges, universities etc... for places that install this. Since 12.10 removes Unity 2d which was the default desktop environment for LTSP installs things are now going with Ubuntu Classic as the default UI.

Other changes are things such as Gnote being swapped back out for Tomboy and the languages being on a pool on the cd verses in the live image so you have to pull more for different languages into your RAM, but the live cd part is much smaller to run. Check the wiki if any of this info interests you.

Ubuntu Gnome Remix 12.10

New to this round of releases for Quetzal is a "stock" Gnome 3 remix of Ubuntu complete with Gnome Shell rather than Unity. So far this is a community only release with the goal of becoming an officially recognized release eventually. There is a website up, but it's still just coming soon. It's planning on releasing with everything else though it's still has some hurdles. A name hasn't been settled on as Gnomebuntu was blocked by the Gnome foundation.

It's aiming to ship with Gnome 3.6 and all of the usually associated goodies. The wiki states

"The Ubuntu GNOME Remix is a mostly pure GNOME desktop experience built from the Ubuntu repositories."

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Of course you can read more about Gnome in general over at their own website.


Disc Covers -

Desktop -
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Server -
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DOWNLOAD SIZE CHANGES

In what has been a back and forth for many years now Canonical has forgone the space cap for CDs. This means you have to either burn a dvd or use a usb stick. I know it's controversial for older computers that don't have access to a dvd drive and their bios doesn't support booting from USB which is why I'm letting you know ahead of time. It's worth noting the Server version is still being held to the CD file size limit.

What to do on Download Day!

1. Head over to Ubuntu's Official Website to grab the latest version of Ubuntu. It's usually available via many download sources as well as a torrent. Heads up though that it might take a while depending for the website to update on the 10th. Burn the ISO or throw it on a USB Stick and GO GO GO!!!

Pro Tip: Choose the Alternate Methods of getting the .iso and grab one of the torrents. Where as websites slow down in times of heavy traffic, the whole point of torrenting is the more people sharing the faster your speed should be. Easily the best option no matter what flavor of Ubuntu you are grabbing on release day!

2. If you already have Ubuntu installed then you can just upgrade!

Read Here for Official Quantal Quetzal Upgrade Instructions!

A) To upgrade from Ubuntu 12.04 on a desktop system, press Alt+F2 and type in "update-manager -d" (without the quotes) into the command box. Update Manager should open up and tell you: New distribution release '12.10' is available. Click Upgrade and follow the on-screen instructions.

B) To upgrade from Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on a server system

Code:
sudo apt-get install update-manager-core

If and only if upgrading from an LTS release, then edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set Prompt=lts

Then...

Code:
do-release-upgrade

and follow the instructions on your screen.

C) To upgrade from Kubuntu 12.04 follow these instructions!

D) Just head on over to the Xubuntu Official Website to figure out what to do on release day!

E) Just google on release day to try and find the Gnome Remix spin since we are only a couple of days out and their official website has yet to really go live yet.

3. If your just curious about the release you can always follow step 1. Then when you insert the burned ISO just let it start, and select run as a live cd. For those not familar you're just running the OS straight off the CD, and not installing anything. It's a great way to just try out a distro to see what's up!

4. If your running Windows there is a handy little installer made called Wubi! You download this small file, and then you can run it in windows. It'll ask you what version of Ubuntu you want, setup your login info, and how much space you want to give it. Then it'll auto download, handle all the partitioning, and then just ask you to reboot to finish the install. What's great about this is to get rid of Ubuntu since you installed via Wubi in Windows you just go to add/remove programs and select Ubuntu from the list!

5. Finally if you want to be cool and have your Ubuntu fix on the go you can always use the UNetbootin program which works in both Linux, OSX and Windows. It'll easily let you create a Ubuntu built on your USB Flash drive. Heck it'll let you chose alot of different distros even if Ubuntu isn't your cup of GNU/Linux tea!

Another Linux and Windows choice would be the Linux Live USB Creator that works in both Windows and Linux. It's basically another alternative to Unetbootin as they accomplish the same tasks.

Pro Tip: Running the .iso off of a usb stick is just like running it off of the cd no matter if you want to install or run as a live cd. So why waste the extra blank cd or dvd when you could just use the usb method to install? Just slap it on a usb stick if you need to do a clean install and not an upgrade!

PS: For some reason over the last year or so I've become partial to the Linux LiveUSB Creator over Unetbootin for some reason. No particular reason why, and they both work well. Just how I've chosen to roll.

Release Date Countdown-
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References:

1. Ubuntu Official Website
2. Kubuntu Official Website
3. Xubuntu Official Website
4. Edubuntu Official Website
5. Official Lubuntu Official Website
6. Ubuntu Gnome Remix Official Website
7. Linux Distro Noob thread of Linux noobs: The Official Neogaf Linux Topic!
8. OmgUbuntu: Best Ubuntu Blog on the Web! (Credit to them for some of the pics in this topic!)
9. Wubi Installer Page
10. UNetbootin Installer Page
11. Linux Live USB Creator
12. This Week In Linux: Great General Website + an Official Youtube Channel
13.Mark Shuttleworth's Blog: aka the Man the Myth the Legend behind Ubuntu
14. Shawn Powers Blog: My favorite Linux writer (currently writes for Linux Journal Mag/Website)

Photography People: Get Your Art in Ubuntu as Wallpaper!

Don't forget to check out the Ubuntu Artwork Flickr Group! You can submit your artwork and twice a year they select some of these photos to be included as Official Wallpaper in the actual release! If your good with your DSLR then lets see your talent! That or if you are just good with Photoshop/GIMP. Here are some design guidelines.

The Wallpaper of Ubuntu 12.04

12 Included Wallpapers in TARBALL FORM

The Default Wallpaper for Quantal Quetzal:

11 Other Assorted Wallpapers:


In Loving Memory of DJ Nujabes RIP February 7, 1974 – February 26, 2010
Spiritual State was listened to greatly during the creation of this thread!
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Ferrio

Banned
Looking forward to it, least the kernel update. Current kernel causes my dell laptop to hardlock occassionally.
 

Vanillalite

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No more Netbook versions? Or has it been like that for some time?

Been like that for a while. They just moved the Unity interface over from the netbook version to the regular version. They just had a 2d version for older slower comps which I explained is getting phased out for just Unity 3d with a CPU fall back pipeline for older comps.
 

Chris R

Member
Been like that for a while. They just moved the Unity interface over from the netbook version to the regular version. They just had a 2d version for older slower comps which I explained is getting phased out for just Unity 3d with a CPU fall back pipeline for older comps.

Cool, I'll download lubuntu then when it comes out on Thursday.
 

ThatObviousUser

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How is it that Unity looks like more of a mess every time I see it? I thought the opposite was supposed to be happening.

But seriously,
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Gnome Remix
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alphaNoid

Banned
Might check out this version of Ubuntu its been a year or so since I've dabbled with Linux. I'm currently using Windows 8 and liking it a lot so far so it may take awhile before I try out this new Linux version.
 

Vanillalite

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I'm running the prerelease and so far smooth sailing here. I haven't had any stability issues or any broken bits since I installed the beta actually. Just in case anyone is wondering about system stability.

PS: I noticed one or two things I forgot to mention so I'll edit them in the OP later.
 

ThatObviousUser

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I'm running the prerelease and so far smooth sailing here. I haven't had any stability issues or any broken bits since I installed the beta actually. Just in case anyone is wondering about system stability.

PS: I noticed one or two things I forgot to mention so I'll edit them in the OP later.

Take everything out of the OP except the Gnome Remix section. :)
 

itxaka

Defeatist
But seriously, [IG]http://i.imgur.com/XiRDB.gif[/IMG] Gnome Remix
7xZO8.gif


[ig]http://lh5.ggpht.com/-tjzCKaCaF04/UBJPnVm5GOI/AAAAAAAAcDg/IDHSBp5iVLU/s0/darkgnome.png[/img]

[ig]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-z0_WAhZdfEQ/UDzul8MlicI/AAAAAAAAF68/MkmD-pZDL1c/s640/gnome-3.6-1.png[/img]


yuck. Looks like a goth tenageer's dream. Where is the fun?


:p


Rebooting to upgrade to the RC, let's see how it goes...Ubuntu pls dont break on me.
 

maharg

idspispopd
OP might want to note in the download size section that xubuntu still fits on a CD.

Been running xubuntu 12.10 beta for a couple of weeks now, nothing really stunning to report on it but the fonts changed (and seem much smoother) and it works just as well as it did before.

More of a general linux thing, but I'm continually astounded by how far Wine has come for running games. Not perfect or anything, but shockingly usable. At least if you're using the bleeding edge PPA for it.
 

ThatObviousUser

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Finally settled on a Chrome+Gnome 3 setup I'm comfortable with. The integration isn't great as many know, themes can alleviate things but not too much.

But a good, dark theme, plus this command:

gconftool-2 --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout --type string ""

Makes it all better. It basically removes the ugly window buttons from the browser border. Much nicer looking. Ctrl+Shift+W for when I truly need to close the whole window, and Ctrl+W/tab-close-buttons for when I just need to close a tab. Looks great and there's no real functional difference.

Now, if it would only use the Gnome 3 scrollbars without an extension...

Windowed:


Maximized:


Not too shabby IMO.
 

itxaka

Defeatist
OP might want to note in the download size section that xubuntu still fits on a CD.

Been running xubuntu 12.10 beta for a couple of weeks now, nothing really stunning to report on it but the fonts changed (and seem much smoother) and it works just as well as it did before.

More of a general linux thing, but I'm continually astounded by how far Wine has come for running games. Not perfect or anything, but shockingly usable. At least if you're using the bleeding edge PPA for it.



Have you notice if the bars (like the bar when you are copying something) are different? I just cleaned up the downloaded debs for the upgrade and I believe they are different..or it's my imagination?


Also the update-manager is different, more stremlined now, looks more like the macosX updater
And its still missing if you try to alt-tab to it...goddammit.

Also, Im missing jockey...not sure if normal.


Edit: Holy hell vmware workstation is working out of the box, first time in the last 4 vmware and 6 ubuntu versions I think.
 

Vanillalite

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Have you notice if the bars (like the bar when you are copying something) are different? I just cleaned up the downloaded debs for the upgrade and I believe they are different..or it's my imagination?


Also the update-manager is different, more stremlined now, looks more like the macosX updater
And its still missing if you try to alt-tab to it...goddammit.

Also, Im missing jockey...not sure if normal.


Edit: Holy hell vmware workstation is working out of the box, first time in the last 4 vmware and 6 ubuntu versions I think.

New update manager was one of things I noticed I forgot to mention. I'll add in a blurb in a bit.
 

maharg

idspispopd
I hate the new update manager. I liked seeing the info easily and when I first upgraded I had a ppa that needed to be disabled (I forget the specifics) and it wouldn't load to the point where it gave me the settings button because of it (the stage it did get to used to have the settings button) so I had to use other tools to fix it.
 

Tankshell

Member
I normally wipe and do a clean install with each Ubuntu release. Any Nvidia card driver issues at the mo with 12.10?

There always seem to be some with recent releases.
 

Vanillalite

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I normally wipe and do a clean install with each Ubuntu release. Any Nvidia card driver issues at the mo with 12.10?

There always seem to be some with recent releases.

There shouldn't be provided you don't have any current 12.04 troubles. I can't confirm this though as I have an ATI 4XXX series card. I haven't had any OMFG gpu driver issues though like I've experienced in years passed.
 

itxaka

Defeatist
I normally wipe and do a clean install with each Ubuntu release. Any Nvidia card driver issues at the mo with 12.10?

There always seem to be some with recent releases.

Not yet. Even better, I had nvidia-current-updates which normally screws my graphics but this time it updated correctly!
 
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qizah

Unconfirmed Member
Can't wait to upgrade ... but kinda scared I'll mess it up.

Heh.

I've done this for a few years now but I always get anxious with upgrading and doing it incorrectly.
 

Massa

Member
I think I want this t-shirt...

http://i.imgur.com/RmCLT.jpg[IMG]

Also tomorrow's the day Gnome Remix will be released, right? Along with the other spinoffs. What's the "right" way to upgrade? (I'm on Ubuntu 12.04 with Gnome 3.4 from the Software Center.)[/QUOTE]

Follow the standard procedure to upgrade to 12.10 then simply install the "ubuntu-gnome-desktop" package.

Once that's done, add the [URL="https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3"]GNOME 3 PPA[/URL] to your system and install the available updates.
 

ThatObviousUser

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Follow the standard procedure to upgrade to 12.10 then simply install the "ubuntu-gnome-desktop" package.

Once that's done, add the GNOME 3 PPA to your system and install the available updates.

What's the standard procedure to upgrade Ubuntu? :p This will be my first Linux upgrade.

I think I might already have the PPA. So Gnome 3.6 won't run on Ubuntu 12.04?
 

Massa

Member
What's the standard procedure to upgrade Ubuntu? :p This will be my first Linux upgrade.

I think I might already have the PPA. So Gnome 3.6 won't run on Ubuntu 12.04?

The PPA is for a few components that didn't make it into 12.10, like the file manager and video player. Most of them did though.
 

ThatObviousUser

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The PPA is for a few components that didn't make it into 12.10, like the file manager and video player. Most of them did though.

If only Shuttleworth saw the light... but I guess there's more money to be made in forcing your ad-infected skin onto the Linux noobites.
 

Izick

Member
It's a great OS. If I didn't watch Flash videos so much I'd go with it over Windows 8 any day of the week.
 

gcubed

Member
it was a jarring and ... different experience with unity but i've come to love it. I mostly use ubuntu on my older PC for router emulation but these changes are very very welcome
 
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qizah

Unconfirmed Member
Should I go with a straight upgrade or just do a fresh install? I remember trying to do an upgrade a little while ago -- didn't go so well, but it might have been my own doing.
 

Vanillalite

Ask me about the GAF Notebook
Should I go with a straight upgrade or just do a fresh install? I remember trying to do an upgrade a little while ago -- didn't go so well, but it might have been my own doing.

Just try and upgrade. You can always reinstall later if need be, but upgrade in theory is okay now.

Check my 2nd OP post for directions on how to just upgrade. Beware upgrade time might take a while depending upon which server you are pulling files from on release day. You can grab the full .iso for a clean install fater if you grab the alternate download method and just torrent verses trying to direct download as it'll be just as slow as trying to upgrade.
 
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qizah

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Just try and upgrade. You can always reinstall later if need be, but upgrade in theory is okay now.

Check my 2nd OP post for directions on how to just upgrade. Beware upgrade time might take a while depending upon which server you are pulling files from on release day. You can grab the full .iso for a clean install fater if you grab the alternate download method and just torrent verses trying to direct download as it'll be just as slow as trying to upgrade.

Brettison said:
A) To upgrade from Ubuntu 12.04 on a desktop system, press Alt+F2 and type in "update-manager -d" (without the quotes) into the command box. Update Manager should open up and tell you: New distribution release '12.10' is available. Click Upgrade and follow the on-screen instructions.

This should work on a laptop no problem, correct?

I'll try to get it from an alternate source as well. Thanks for the help!
 
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