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Yeah I agree, I can see Okami LnP his way to a W like Sonnen almost did.
if he's gonna do it it'll be more wall-n-stall than lay-n-prayAranhaHunter said:Yeah I agree, I can see Okami LnP his way to a W like Sonnen almost did.
polyh3dron said:if you call sonnen a "roider" you have to call hendo, couture and marquardt "roiders" as well. you have to apply the same criteria across the board.
Krzysztof Soszynski said:"I would definitely say somewhere in the percentage of 85% of guys are definitely using, especially the guys who can afford it," Soszynski told AOL.com. "I would even go as high as 95 to 96% of the top-level athletes that are definitely using it. You can clearly see it."
"Ten weeks out, eight weeks out, six weeks out -- that's when all the training happens. That's when you're training at your hardest, at your peak. Every athlete who knows how to train properly knows they're going to have to taper off two weeks, two and a half weeks out from their fight so they'll be in perfect condition for their fight. All the hard training happens eight, ten weeks [from the fight]. That's the time when everybody's doing their drug abuse and that's when they're taking their testosterone and their steroids. That's when I think fighters should be tested."
Gamebaron said:Yeah, I agree. No fighter should ever disrespect another fighter's country. If he steps into Brazil, he will never come out.
AranhaHunter said:Yeah I agree, I can see Okami LnP his way to a W like Sonnen almost did.
Yeah I'm familiar with Krysztof's claims (and Dennis Hallman's similar claims from last year), I just wanted to limit my argument to those fighters who have been confirmed to be on TRT.yacobod said:indeed, but i'd go so far to say that nearly all top level mixed martial artists are using some form of PED legally or illegally. if you want to be naive and think sonnen is the only one "cheating", go ahead.
dem said:How the hell does this guy pass drug tests?
He is 1980's ripped.
Cycles in between fights and starts cutting early?dem said:How the hell does this guy pass drug tests?
He is 1980's ripped.
sazabirules said:Here's the video of Sonnen breaking down the fight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PW3x8uP6VjA&feature=player_embedded
Nobody will ever take this distinction away from Matt Serra.TheNatural said:If Okami wins, it will probably go down as the biggest upset in UFC history.
Wtf? A bet like that on Okami gets you $6375 dollars.TheNatural said:One guy on Sherdog put $1500 down to try to win about less than $300.
BigKaboom2 said:Nobody will ever take this distinction away from Matt Serra.
dralla said:shit i hope the power doesnt go out tonight :[
TheNatural said:Okami has pillow fists, it would really surprise me if he did anything to finish Silva or could somehow outfight him for five rounds.
TheNatural said:Eh, maybe, since Serra has since not done jack shit in his career since, it makes it look like an even bigger upset. Serra at least can throw down and trade punches so has that "punchers chance" when he fights. Okami has pillow fists, it would really surprise me if he did anything to finish Silva or could somehow outfight him for five rounds. I don't know, Okami is SO vanilla of a fighter, it just seems a lot harder for me to believe that type of fighter has a chance to pull an upset than anyone else who may be a much worse overall fighter.
sien916 said:If we're talking straight odds, Serra was +700 against GSP. I doubt you'll even see those kind of odds on a UFC title fight ever again given the circumstances of his title shot.
That was Serra's first KO of a then 8 year pro career by the way.
TheNatural said:But where have they come from? I count 7 TKO's in really small organizations before he was even in UFC. Here's his last 9 fights:
Win Nate Marquardt Decision (Unanimous)
Win Mark Munoz Decision (Split)
Win Lucio Linhares TKO (Doctor Stoppage)
Loss Chael Sonnen Decision (Unanimous)
Win Dean Lister Decision (Unanimous)
Win Evan Tanner KO (Knee)
Win Jason MacDonald Decision (Unanimous)
Loss Rich Franklin Decision (Unanimous)
Win Mike Swick Decision (Unanimous)
The guy just can't win without it being a decision, he's so vanilla. 7 of his last 9 fights going to decision and his only true KO was against a guy who had some major problems (RIP Tanner.) In fact his only two stoppages in UFC (not by the doc) were Tanner and Caleb Starnes. Unless its Jon Fitch, I don't know many more fighters who are considered top contenders more vanilla and unable to stop someone.
TheNatural said:I agree, Serra's upset probably won't be beat in pure caliber of fighter. Okami is a WAY better fighter than Serra. Based purely on the matchup and circumstances, what kind of punchers chance Okami has, and Anderson being in his home country, if Okami won this by stoppage it would probably be up there though.
sien916 said:Do you need to stop someone to be impressive? I don't see it that way.
I'd argue his wins over Munoz and TRT Marquardt say a lot more than knocking out Linhares and Tanner.
Marquardt - KO'd once by Anderson with the help of a horrible referee standup.TheNatural said:The guy just can't win without it being a decision, he's so vanilla.
There's a very very very small gap between Silva and Sonnen.TheNatural said:There's a huge gap between #1 and everyone else in the middleweight division.
TheNatural said:I'm not saying you have to stop someone, I'm saying how exactly is he going to win a fight going to decision with one of the best strikers in the world when he doesn't have near the striking ability. I just don't see a way he can win. I really don't think he's going to pull a Sonnen for 4 plus rounds. If he doesn't have the "punchers chance" I really don't see anything else that could make him pull the upset, unless Anderson got blindsided by father time in between fights. There's a huge gap between #1 and everyone else in the middleweight division.
TheNatural said:I'm not saying you have to stop someone, I'm saying how exactly is he going to win a fight going to decision with one of the best strikers in the world when he doesn't have near the striking ability. I just don't see a way he can win. I really don't think he's going to pull a Sonnen for 4 plus rounds. If he doesn't have the "punchers chance" I really don't see anything else that could make him pull the upset, unless Anderson got blindsided by father time in between fights. There's a huge gap between #1 and everyone else in the middleweight division.
BigKaboom2 said:Marquardt - KO'd once by Anderson with the help of a horrible referee standup.
Munoz - otherwise undefeated at middleweight.
Lister - never knocked out.
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MacDonald - KO'd several times.
Swick - KO'd by Leben and rocked by Paulo Thiago.
Maybe he could have KO'd MacDonald but otherwise those are some pretty resilient dudes.
There's a very very very small gap between Silva and Sonnen.
Maklershed said:hnggg ....
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BSsBrolly said:That's ridiculous. If Okami comes in with the right gameplan, he can definitely win. Doesn't matter how good a striker Anderson is, Okami will be able to take him down at will. Andersons weakness is a strong wrestler. Why poeple (like Franklin, Griffin, Henderson, etc) decide they want to stand with him is mind boggling when his weakness is so obvious.
haha spot onTheNatural said:I wouldn't mind eating at the Y.
yes, but I think a TKO is possible.Jake McLargeHuge said:Is Griffin getting knocked out by a man known for brutal knockouts that far-fetched?
Yeah I think Brittany became my fav. Better body.polyh3dron said:fuck that bitch, she had Brittany fired because she felt she was being upstaged.
Arianny is boring as fuck.
polyh3dron said:yes, but I think a TKO is possible.
My opinion still stands about Forrest ragequitting against Andy.
Nope, the chants are going to be a bit more vulgar if the weigh ins are any indicator.dream said:All I want from this card is for the entire arena to break into an old school Carlson Sr. ZHOO ZHITSU ZHOO ZHITSU ZHOO ZHITSU chant. Preferably after a KO win.
It doesn't seem like it, look at his interview with Ariel. That's another thing I'm factoring in here. He didn't look all that amazing against Franklin or Tito either.sazabirules said:Does Griffin just not enjoy fighting anymore?
Believe me Britney was my favorite but Arianny is amazing too no matter how cunty she may be.polyh3dron said:fuck that bitch, she had Brittany fired because she felt she was being upstaged.
Arianny is boring as fuck.
Whaaaa??? That was the reason? I wonder how many of the Fox guys she will be passed around to.polyh3dron said:fuck that bitch, she had Brittany fired because she felt she was being upstaged.
Arianny is boring as fuck.