UFC 134: Silva vs. Okami 8/27 |OT| The champ comes home

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sazabirules said:
I was referring to GSP since Magneto mentioned him.
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GSP doesn't have much competition in the welterweight division, it's not that he's boring to watch, it's that he isn't challenged enough IMO.
 
Magneto said:
GSP doesn't have much competition in the welterweight division, it's not that he's boring to watch, it's that he isn't challenged enough IMO.
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As a (semi-frustrated) GSP fan let me just say this:

:lol
 
yacobod said:
and gsp could fight at 185 as well. he cuts 30 lbs to fight at 170. he would never go up to 185 until anderson retires.
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They are both bigger than most of their classes. They would still be the smaller guys in the one above them. What Anderson lacks in mass he makes up for in length though. GSP doesn't have that. He would have to gain more mass to off set the weight difference on fight night.

And Yaco you know Forrest now isn't the same guy that won the belt.

And Anderson takes Jones because Jones would get tooled on his feet. The only way Jones would win is if he took him down. Even then I think Anderson subs him because Jones has a nasty habit of leaving his arms extended while in someone's guard. Only reason he hasn't been exposed in that area is because 205 lacks long lengthy BJJ guys.
 
Magneto said:
GSP doesn't have much competition in the welterweight division, it's not that he's boring to watch, it's that he isn't challenged enough IMO.
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His last fight was against a guy on a 15 fight win streak. Nick Diaz has won 10 straight. Fitch won 16 straight (and hasn't lost since). Alves had won 7 straight.

Who's challenging Anderson at 185?
 
saying gsp doesn't have competition is sort of short sighted, and i say grudgingly a credit to his dominance. the only weight class more stacked than 170 is 155. 155 is crazy stacked, everyone in the top 20 is dangerous.
 
It's about styles. Nobody's challenged GSP because everyone is waaaay to cautious. Even when Georges was partially blind, Shields was still meek and got outstruck by a guy who has no depth-perception. Diaz will at least challenge off of his back and not just hold on for dear life like Hardy and Alves did.

I've got no bones with anyone who doesn't like to watch GSP fight or have some bizarre-ass sense of his personality which affects how they personally feel about him. But this talk about him not being a fighter...c'mon.
 
Junior, this is the internet. Every fighter that doesn't get knocked out or knock people out in the first round sucks and doesn't belong in UFC. Except B.J. because quitting a fight you were getting murdered in is cool.



And Yaco, I want Okami to win but I know it won't happen.
 
CaptYamato said:
And Yaco, I want Okami to win but I know it won't happen.
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I want nog to win and not get KO'd, but I'm not betting on it. Especially since he weighed in at 240+, I don't really think he's in shape, so I don't really see any other way this fight is going to end besides Nog in lala land.

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The Nog brothers are 14 months younger than Anderson Silva. So are ppl still going to play dumb about age vs in-cage age.
 
yacobod said:
The Nog brothers are 14 months younger than Anderson Silva. So are ppl still going to play dumb about age vs in-cage age.
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I've never heard this argument. Is it kind of like Run down Knees in Basketball?
 
yacobod said:
The Nog brothers are 14 months younger than Anderson Silva. So are ppl still going to play dumb about age vs in-cage age.
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Wat?

Minotauro is younger than Anderson?










*blown is mind mine*
 
All I gotta say is.... I am really excited for this. First off Brazil as a country deserves it foooorrrr sure. That alone makes it worth watching. The card is a pretty good one too, all I know is its going to be an event.
 
yacobod said:
he fucked up his weight cut
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If you watch Dana's 2nd video blog for 134 that went up today, Okami was pretty fucking heavy on the day before the weigh in.

So for him to come in under the limit by that much is, if nothing else, intriguing.
 
CaptYamato said:
That is why Yaco said in-ring age.
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ya i just brought that up for the fact that people will cite dan henderson or randy couture as examples for extended primes for fighters, but they are the exceptions and not the rule (outliers if you will). TRT helps them, but it matters how much in ring damage you sustain, how many fights have you been in, when you started fighting.
 
CaptYamato said:
The amount of food these guys eat after weigh-in would make me puke.
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Why? They cut weight from water, not food. You think they starve for a week before a fight to drop 10 pounds? Are you retarded? After a big cut they go on fluids and rehydrate.
 
pseudocaesar said:
Why? They cut weight from water, not food. You think they starve for a week before a fight to drop 10 pounds? Are you retarded? After a big cut they go on fluids and rehydrate.
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Have you ever seen the pictures of them eating at the buffets after weigh-ins?

I know for a fact Forrest doesn't eat anything a week before it is time to make weight. In his book he said all he does is drink distilled water. Most wrestlers I know do the same shit. During the last week some of them eat very minimal amounts and carb load right after weigh-ins.
 
BSsBrolly said:
IF... Lol, like Silva can prevent the takedown.
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Like it matters. Silva will stomp Okami on the ground or on his feet. He subbed Hendo and Sonnen for christ's sake. And both of those guys are better than Okami on the ground.
 
Measley said:
Like it matters. Silva will stomp Okami on the ground or on his feet. He subbed Hendo and Sonnen for christ's sake. And both of those guys are better than Okami on the ground.
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Hendo, maybe. He was rocked when he got submitted. Chael? Lmfao his sub defense has always been terrible. Look at his loses for hells sake. I called the end to his fight with silva down to the exact submition. I did not expect him to dominate before he got submitted though.
 
Measley said:
Like it matters. Silva will stomp Okami on the ground or on his feet. He subbed Hendo and Sonnen for christ's sake. And both of those guys are better than Okami on the ground.
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Hendo was rocked when he was subbed. He was winning the fight until he decided to try and strike.

Have you even see these fights?
 
BSsBrolly said:
IF... Lol, like Silva can prevent the takedown.
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He has gotten significantly better since the beginning of his career. I also think he trained with the brazilian national judo team for this fight.

alr1ghtstart said:
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I love that kick. There's no reason that should be illegal.
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I still remember him going berserk after that.
 
well the kick probably wouldn't have been nearly as nice had it been legal and okami thus factoring it in as a possibility

do agree that kind of stuff would ideally be legal tho
 
BSsBrolly said:
Hendo, maybe. He was rocked when he got submitted. Chael? Lmfao his sub defense has always been terrible. Look at his loses for hells sake. I called the end to his fight with silva down to the exact submition. I did not expect him to dominate before he got submitted though.
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it was funny even up until the end of the fight i knew he was gonna get subbed like the moron that he is. anyone who's watched 5+ sonnen fights wasn't that shocked by even that crazy finish
 
AranhaHunter said:
He has gotten significantly better since the beginning of his career. I also think he trained with the brazilian national judo team for this fight.
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The Sonnen fight was 2 fights ago, he wasn't exactly a neophyte.
 
sonnen is such a wildcard . . . i mean it's tough to gauge people against such a serious roider. like people say okami's wrestling is overrated b/c sonnen dominated him wrestling-wise but come on sonnen was so damn 'roned up for that fight
 
if you call sonnen a "roider" you have to call hendo, couture and marquardt "roiders" as well. you have to apply the same criteria across the board.
 
polyh3dron said:
if you call sonnen a "roider" you have to call hendo, couture and marquardt "roiders" as well. you have to apply the same criteria across the board.
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that's kind of silly considering how different all the situations are. marquardt is probably worse than sonnen even though. not a convicted money launderer however. amazing when you think about the shit sonnen pulled and now he's back doing his clown shtick . . . nice to be White in America
 
CaptYamato said:
Hendo was rocked when he was subbed. He was winning the fight until he decided to try and strike.

Have you even see these fights?
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Have you? Hendo and Sonnen are both better ground fighters than Okami. That's the point. If neither of those fighters could beat Anderson on the ground, Okami won't either.
 
AstroLad said:
that's kind of silly considering how different all the situations are. marquardt is probably worse than sonnen even though. not a convicted money launderer however. amazing when you think about the shit sonnen pulled and now he's back doing his clown shtick . . . nice to be White in America
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they're all on TRT, it's just that a couple of them fucked up and had a test level surge at a bad time; fight time.

being a money launderer doesn't make you more of a roider
 
polyh3dron said:
they're all on TRT, it's just that a couple of them fucked up and had a test level surge at a bad time; fight time.

being a money launderer doesn't make you more of a roider
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no this is more in line with the theme of sonnen being a piece of shit.
 
Norante said:
Sonnen would be wise to not set foot on our land, or South America... In fact, anywhere near a brazillian.
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Yeah, I agree. No fighter should ever disrespect another fighter's country. If he steps into Brazil, he will never come out.
 
AranhaHunter said:
He has gotten significantly better since the beginning of his career. I also think he trained with the brazilian national judo team for this fight.



I still remember him going berserk after that.
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Shit! I can't believe that Anderson was DQ'd for that! Ha! I thought Okami legitimately beat Silva (I haven't seen their 1st fight) but I'm fairly sure that Anderson has this dude's number now that this is brought to light.
 
polyh3dron said:
The Sonnen fight was 2 fights ago, he wasn't exactly a neophyte.
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Roided up vs broken ribs. Anderson TDD is not on GSP's or Couture's level, but it has definitely gotten better since his Meca and Pride days, that's an undeniable fact. I'll go as far as say that his wrestling has gotten better since entering the UFC as well.
 
The thing is, Okami isn't necessarily all about takedowns. He's all about getting on the inside and clinching up, not giving his opponent any space. Silva is all about keeping his distance from a fighter and utilizing his reach these days unless he can completely dominate them in the clinch like with Ace.

I still think Andy is gonna win easily, but I also see it being a difficult and possibly boring fight.
 
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