UFC 148 |OT| Shattering the myth that is Anderson Silva - 7.7.2012
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Brian Fellows
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I only post when Ace or Creepy Joe fight. Not sure what I'm doing here now.
Big Baybee
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That's fine, but you don't have to post in a gaf MMA thread to be considered a true fan of the sport. I post in the individual UFC event threads, but I have never posted in the community thread. I lurk sometimes though.
Man I have watched again the first 4 UFCs some time ago (I saw then when they first aired, yes I'm that old!) and I'm quite happy the Gracie guy sold the rights to the Fertitta brothers! Tournament UFC has not aged well!
I remember as a kid watching Royce beating guys way bigger than him and I was amazed, but seeing the fights again...man I wouldn't even say some of then were professional fighters! Lol!
Plus, Royce is a douche who thinks too highly of himself IMO!
parrotbeak
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Royce was the original UFC myth.
I just rewatched a few old ones (discussed a couple pages back in our shitty community thread), and what I took away was that my memory of them was way more exciting than the actual events, because they were novel. Seeing people who perhaps never got hit before was more shocking because they themselves were shocked to get hit. Then you had the 30 minute matches where nothing happened.
I just rewatched a few old ones (discussed a couple pages back in our shitty community thread), and what I took away was that my memory of them was way more exciting than the actual events, because they were novel. Seeing people who perhaps never got hit before was more shocking because they themselves were shocked to get hit. Then you had the 30 minute matches where nothing happened.
Leave them to their own devices, friend. I have no time for people who reply to intelligent conversation with the equivalent of "u mad?" or passive-aggressively complain about a community without contributing anything of value.
Nah I haven't read it but you have piqued my interest. The whole "Chael is not a martial artist", "Chael no hespect nobody" line taken by Anderson does strike me as someone claiming a higher moral high ground.
Not claiming Anderson is on illegal PEDs by any means. To say he's not taking anything to enhance his performance would be ignorance. I'm sure Anderson's cupboard is filled to the brim with pill bottles like the rest of the roster. Where do you draw the line of being offended by it? Personally I think it should be all fair game. As Yamato put it:
I have nothing against that. The part where people implicitly say 'the community has gone to shit' is the part that i have a bone to pick with. No one is asking you to post there or scolding you for not doing so, however if you're not there then don't make assumptions about it.
Host Samurai
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Just ate my pop corn reading this thread of UFC GAF vs MMA GAF
Brian Fellows
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How was your popcorn?
I think Silva is a very passionate guy. He pulled all that bullshit on the Maia fight just because Demian trash talked him a bit. If that Silva was still fighting today I don't know what would have happened on the last Sonnen fight after everything Chael said.
In that regard, he clearly improved a bit and learned to control his temper better, but he still pulled that bullshit on the weight in, that pissed me off. Chael forgiving that incident was a real gentleman's act. It seems that sometimes Anderson just can't control himself.
On his bio he talks openly about planning to kill a previous couch of his that slapped him in the face. He even acquired the gun and came within shooting distance of the guy, but in the end he didn't have courage to pull the trigger. There's more stuff about some difficult family relations.
But make no mistake, as an authorized biography the book is still pretty much praising him, that's why I said an unauthorized bio would probably be better.
I like Anderson, but not enough to be blind to his faults. Same way with Chael, he's just too fun to hate.
Jon Jones could use a Chael Sonnen kinda guy to antagonize with him. Rashad didn't even come close!
Well if everybody wants the truth there is no use is having a debate about how anderson use drugs and chael too etc..
Truth is probably everybody in the sport have little blood left in their drugs. To be able to do what they are doing, with such high level it is almost customary to take drugs. The ones that don't will just never be on par with the rest of the mass.
And it is true for every sport nowadays.
Truth is probably everybody in the sport have little blood left in their drugs. To be able to do what they are doing, with such high level it is almost customary to take drugs. The ones that don't will just never be on par with the rest of the mass.
And it is true for every sport nowadays.
Host Samurai
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Quite nice.
Host Samurai
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Hendo needs to fight Jones just like Sonnen fought Anderson. I know he lost but he was the aggressor and went inside and brought the fight to Anderson. Everybody plays into Jons game than they pay for it. Rampage would have been perfect for this strategy because he has size, but too bad he fought Jones like a P***y.
Woah dude, dem is old school MMA-GAF. Step off.
That wasn't the first time that was said. So i dont wanna hear that. If you chose to not participate you don't get to tell the rest of us that we're doing something wrong.
Hendo doesn't know how to wrestle anymore. Don't kid yourself.
All I'm saying is you have Legacy Rights if you were posting about MMA on GAF back in the days when it was just six people talking to each other and a thread was "big" if it managed to break 20 replies. (getting to a second page was unheard of)
Big difference between that fight and Sonnen/Silva is that Sonnen can and has outwrestled Silva, but Hendo is definitely not going to be outwrestling Jones. Sonnen was able to keep Silva on his toes because he has a clear advantage in wrestling, but that's not the case with Hendo versus Jones.
It's a bad match-up for Hendo. He has even more of a reach disadvantage than the usual Jones opponent, and when he inevitably goes inside to try and land the big right, Jones will simply and forcefully take him down and just cream him with elbows from the guard. There's a path to victory for Hendo but it's limited to landing a big shot in the stand-up. I don't see him decisioning Jones either.
That's why Jones is such a puzzle box for other fighters in the ring. He's excellent at keeping distance with his reach while also having a superb clinch game, so you're kind of fucked at both long and short ranges, not to mention on the ground. Rashad thought exactly what you did - that the key to beating Jones is to control distance and bring the fight to him - but it's much easier said than done.
Im not disputing that. What im saying is that if you aren't contributing and aren't privy to what goes on in there then its not your place to tell us we're shitty. There have been a bunch of incidents when people who haven't ever posted in ot2 or 3 just pop in to say 'wow the community is in shit'. If you dont contribute to the narrative who are you to tell a bunch of other people something like that?
RBelong2Us
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Hendo definitely has some disadvantages but one things for damn sure he's gonna keep coming forward no matter what and that separates him from everyone that has fought Jones. Machida did some of that but never fully.
Hendo will get tagged a lot but he will make sure Jones gets tagged too, if Jones can handle Hendo's initial onslaught he'll most likely easily win but if he gets rocked he'll be in some deep shiet. I definitely don't think Jones can take the onslaught Shogun took against Hendo and survive.
Hendo will get tagged a lot but he will make sure Jones gets tagged too, if Jones can handle Hendo's initial onslaught he'll most likely easily win but if he gets rocked he'll be in some deep shiet. I definitely don't think Jones can take the onslaught Shogun took against Hendo and survive.
He doesn't have to, though. Why get hit if you can avoid the strikes? Jones' chin is largely untested because people have a rough time touching it. Machida and Rashad got a few hits in but Jones seemed pretty unfazed by them. Remains to be seen how Hendo does, and whether a single blow is enough to put Jones down or rock him enough for Hendo to pounce.
Oh god you guys have really done it. We are going to have a collision of Silver-GAF and JBJ GAF now aren't we.
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Realistically Anderson is probably the only fighter in the league that can beat Jones that's not a HW. I see a fight being a rough 1st round for Anderson than he will capitalize on a mistake by Jones in the 2nd or 3rd and win via TKO. Jones has lots of holes and if one guy. An exploit them it's The Spider.
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IMACOMPUTA
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I'm back. Sorry for my meltdown the other night. I was drunk.. and mad.
Anyways, I definitely think JBJ would beat Silva.
JBJ finishes guys when he's on top of them. Especially if he can land a full-mount.
If Chael didn't have little boy hands, he would have easily won both fights.
Insane Metal
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I've watched some Sonnen vids (his interviews) and I must say he's hilarious. I'm starting to actually like him lol
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Man Sudo is awesome, his music videos are cool too. Choreography are all pretty interesting and have some cool illusions.
TheKaeptain
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Hell yeah man.
OpinionatedCyborg
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Sonnen is fine in small doses. I use him as a tool to determine whether I am wasting too much time following MMA news. If he is starting to annoy me, it means I need to stop reading, listening, and watching to MMA news. If he is amusing me, then I probably haven't been following MMA very closely. Any of his interviews taken alone is generally amusing, but if you see, hear, or read too much about him at once the schtick wears thin fast.
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EYEL1NER
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Fucking love the guy.
Everytime I turn on my PS3, I watch him stomp and punch Royler Gracie's face into the back of his face.
Insane Metal
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I just saw the news saying that Sonnen won't ask for a cancellation of the event. He said that you just have to accept that you lost. About the knee to the face, he says that it is the referee's job, if he thought it was legal, he considers it legal too and doesn't want to discuss about it.
Fuck, I'm really starting to like Sonnen and losing my respect for Anderson.
Fuck, I'm really starting to like Sonnen and losing my respect for Anderson.
Brian Fellows
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So not acting like a bitch for once is now worthy of respect? You set the bar very low I see.
Insane Metal
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Actually, I liked him for being funny (he said many things but it's just part of his show imo) and for being honest inside the octagon.
And I disliked Silva for that shoulder stuff and the other things he has done during the fight.
Anyway I like both to be honest.
I would stay away from watching most fights then, because holding the cage, holding on to shorts ...it happens in pretty much all of them
As far as the shoulder, we have had people knocking other people's hats off and pushing up on people and everything else and if it was not Silva doing the shoulder it would not be nearly as news worthy
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