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[StrikeNinja24]

I am sure there are people like that, but I doubt they are the majority or even a sizeable minority.

I disagree, I believe it to be a majority, but there's almost no active way to get a representation of that. Most people that would wouldn't admit it out loud.

 

[Durask]

I disagree, I believe it to be a majority, but there's almost no active way to get a representation of that. Most people that would wouldn't admit it out loud.

Well, ultimately yeah it is "I believe" vs "you believe"

The way I personally look at it:

If someone breaks into my house and I shoot and kill them then there will be a police investigation. I will have to hire a lawyer and spend my time and potentially a lot of money (plus stress of having to deal with it). It's not like in the USA you are guaranteed to walk away a hero, plenty of people got into trouble, depends on many things. So for me shooting a burglar is certainly not on my list of fun things to do.

 

[camelCase]

Only because I *love* Liar Liar, there isn't a scene where that happens. Rather Fletcher's secretary, Greta, tells him that story. Her friend had to pay the burglar $6,000, and Greta asks "Is that justice?" Fletcher says "No!" and then, despite his best efforts, adds, "I'd have got him ten."

Hah I know, was hoping someone wouldnt call me on that. You got me, i purposefully omitted the extra exposition to make it sound more topical. Good day to you.

 

[TheShadowLord]

not sure how the UK government system works but this is something that would be thrown out if they have a jury system. they might even find him to be not guilty

 

[Nicktendo86]

Not sure if anyone has been following the story but it just gets worse and worse. The burglar was from a crime family and was wanted for targeting other elderly people in their homes. It later transpired that he is from a family of travellers (gypsies) and his family have been going to the road where he died and laying flowers, tributes and basically a shrine. Locals have said they have been intimidating.

The man who's house was broken into has not been able to go back and he and his wife (who I believe has dementia) are currently in hiding. The family of the burglar have apparently sworn that they will get revenge.

All because some low life scumbag decided to break in and rob them and he defended himself an old man and his sick wife have basically had their lives ruined. This country is fucked.

 

[appaws]

Honestly feels like a lot of gun owners in the US have a gun for a home invasion with the hopes and dreams to use it to kill someone one day and be considered a hero for it.

Hilariously wrong. Nobody buys a fire extinguisher because they are hoping for a fire.

 

[TFGB]

Not sure if anyone has been following the story but it just gets worse and worse. The burglar was from a crime family and was wanted for targeting other elderly people in their homes. It later transpired that he is from a family of travellers (gypsies) and his family have been going to the road where he died and laying flowers, tributes and basically a shrine. Locals have said they have been intimidating.

The man who's house was broken into has not been able to go back and he and his wife (who I believe has dementia) are currently in hiding. The family of the burglar have apparently sworn that they will get revenge.

All because some low life scumbag decided to break in and rob them and he defended himself an old man and his sick wife have basically had their lives ruined. This country is fucked.

I met a chap yesterday and his brother used to box with the gypo that was killed and apparently the scum had previously tied up pensioners in their homes before robbing them, on numerous occasions.

The poor bloke who stabbed him has had his world turned upside down by these lowlifes.

 

[FCKAFD]

Before defending the elderly killer you should ask yourself why the other man broke into his house in the first place . He probably didnt do it because its so fun to rob people but because he needed the money since the white capitalist society doesnt give a flying shit about minorities and poor people.

 

[Noboru Wataya]

Before defending the elderly killer you should ask yourself why the other man broke into his house in the first place . He probably didnt do it because its so fun to rob people but because he needed the money since the white capitalist society doesnt give a flying shit about minorities and poor people.

Only amoral Neanderthals rob old people and/or find reasons to justify it. Grow up and stop trying so hard to be edgy. The government isn’t there to teach tramp kids right from wrong. Poverty has NOTHING to do with it. (Not like all gypsies are poor. They are often self employed without having to pay tax/national insurance.)

 

[Hissing Sid]

Before defending the elderly killer you should ask yourself why the other man broke into his house in the first place . He probably didnt do it because its so fun to rob people but because he needed the money since the white capitalist society doesnt give a flying shit about minorities and poor people.

What.

The.

Fuck?

Are you twelve years old? You honestly wrote that paragraph of utter crap in all seriousness?

Before now I've gone without money, food and a roof. My childhood was not.... pleasant. Boo fucking Hoo!

Never once did it enter my head to rob old people due to being a victim of the ‘white capitalist society’.

I’m sure I’m not unique in this regard.

Although if at some point in the future I find myself in similar circumstances and do go out robbing old folks, I’ll be sure to let them know that I’m the actual victim, even though I’m the one holding the weapon, nicking their stuff and sending my accomplice victim upstairs to pay invalid wifey a visit.

Christ.

At least the police should have an easy job cracking the case, they just go around the neighbourhood asking if anyone knows someone called White Capitalist Society.

Bang to rights, innit!

 

[Jmarshall]

Before defending the elderly killer you should ask yourself why the other man broke into his house in the first place . He probably didnt do it because its so fun to rob people but because he needed the money since the white capitalist society doesnt give a flying shit about minorities and poor people.

Even if that's true, the vast majority of minorities and poor people managed to not live lives of criminality. I feel no empathy for a serial burgler who broke into this gentlemen's home.

 

[Jmarshall]

not sure how the UK government system works but this is something that would be thrown out if they have a jury system. they might even find him to be not guilty

"If we have the Jury system".

We invented the Jury system.

 

[Boss Mog]

Before defending the elderly killer you should ask yourself why the other man broke into his house in the first place . He probably didnt do it because its so fun to rob people but because he needed the money since the white capitalist society doesnt give a flying shit about minorities and poor people.

Trying to defend and justify felony crimes using a bullshit narrative. It shocks me that people like you exist in this world. The way I see it, people like you who make excuses for felons are cancer personified trying to bring down civilization. There's always alternatives to crime, they're just harder and require effort, but no, you're right let's let people take shortcuts to make easy money by hurting others.

 

[infinitys_7th]

Before defending the elderly killer you should ask yourself why the other man broke into his house in the first place . He probably didnt do it because its so fun to rob people but because he needed the money since the white capitalist society doesnt give a flying shit about minorities and poor people.

The robber was a white guy, you imbecilic racebaiter.

If someone comes at me with a knife, white or black, rich or poor, young or old, I will defend myself and TBH I don't care if they die. My right to life trumps their forfeited right they lost when they attacked me with potentially murderous intention. If they asked for help I would be willing to help them, but I have every right to defend myself as necessary regardless of their circumstances.

 

[TrainedRage]

Before defending the elderly killer you should ask yourself why the other man broke into his house in the first place . He probably didnt do it because its so fun to rob people but because he needed the money since the white capitalist society doesnt give a flying shit about minorities and poor people.

Lmao sure bud. It was white privlage that robbed that old man in his home. The robber was just a victim of the current culture. Right? I don't give a Shit about brazen criminals your right about that, but I don't judge them as you do based on skin color rather the actions they have actually taken. If you are defending the guy that broke it that's pretty bad.

 

[WaterAstro]

People in this thread still don't get it. We have to wait for the evidence to make any kind of judgement.

If the elderly killed the man in self-defence, then it's justified, but if the burglar was injured or incapacitated, but not dead, and the elder proceeded to stab him to death to "ensure he was no longer a threat", that's murder.

 

[NickFire]

Before defending the elderly killer you should ask yourself why the other man broke into his house in the first place . He probably didnt do it because its so fun to rob people but because he needed the money since the white capitalist society doesnt give a flying shit about minorities and poor people.

No thank you.

 

[camelCase]

Before defending the elderly killer you should ask yourself why the other man broke into his house in the first place . He probably didnt do it because its so fun to rob people but because he needed the money since the white capitalist society doesnt give a flying shit about minorities and poor people.

You should listen to "Good Bait" by john Coltrane

 

[Damageinc103]

Before defending the elderly killer you should ask yourself why the other man broke into his house in the first place . He probably didnt do it because its so fun to rob people but because he needed the money since the white capitalist society doesnt give a flying shit about minorities and poor people.

I don’t know this story well but did you just assume the burglar was a minority.....cause that’s racist.

 

[StrikeNinja24]

Hilariously wrong. Nobody buys a fire extinguisher because they are hoping for a fire.

Get the hell out of here with that weak comparison and generalizing tone. Though we know you'll do anything to defend your precious guns.

 

[J-Rzez]

Before defending the elderly killer you should ask yourself why the other man broke into his house in the first place . He probably didnt do it because its so fun to rob people but because he needed the money since the white capitalist society doesnt give a flying shit about minorities and poor people.

Sorry, this isn't the old GAF. This isn't going to fly here. You break into houses, scare, intimidate, and scar people for life that they can't sleep out of fear in their own homes, you get lit up you deserve it.

 

[Vicetrailia]

I've read countless online comments, and heard an uncountable number of gun owners salivating at the mouth to kill intruders going after their family or items. Like it or not in the U.S. such bravado is a big part of the culture.

Apparently in Michigan a stranger asking for directions tickles ones fantasy enough.

 

[KormaChameleon]

Before defending the elderly killer you should ask yourself why the other man broke into his house in the first place . He probably didnt do it because its so fun to rob people but because he needed the money since the white capitalist society doesnt give a flying shit about minorities and poor people.

He did it because he is a scumbag. He's got what was coming to him.

 

[Paracelsus]

Before defending the elderly killer you should ask yourself why the other man broke into his house in the first place . He probably didnt do it because its so fun to rob people but because he needed the money since the white capitalist society doesnt give a flying shit about minorities and poor people.

At this point because of how neogaf has been the past few years, I can no longer discern parody posting.

 

[CharmingCharlie]

I don’t know this story well but did you just assume the burglar was a minority.....cause that’s racist.

Whilst I do not agree with FCKAFD's take on things. He is correct the burglar was part of a minority. The Burglar was a Traveller and it was ruled that travellers (specifically Romany and Irish travellers) are an ethnic minority. Doesn't change the fact the guy was a scumbag.

 

[take_it_easy]

Honestly feels like a lot of gun owners in the US have a gun for a home invasion with the hopes and dreams to use it to kill someone one day and be considered a hero for it.

I think that's partially true. But I also think they love the idea of not being completely at the mercy of a gun-armed burglar. It's unlikely to happen to someone, but still terrifying if it does.

 

[TFGB]

If anything, at least this thread has highlighted the juvenile twats that can get added to the future ignore list.

 

[Spheyr]

Someone breaks into my house while I'm home, the only valuables they're getting is a few rounds of .223 to center mass.

 

[phisheep]

Police did exactly the right thing here. The intruder was found dying in the street nearby, so possible that self-defense might not have covered it. Householder arrested, questioned, bailed, then released without charge and no further action.

Job done.

Someone breaks into my house while I'm home, the only valuables they're getting is a few rounds of .223 to center mass.

Somebody did once break into my house when I was home, back in the 1980s. I came downstairs and made them a cup of tea, we had a chat, and he left without taking anything.

 

[Beard of the Forest]

If anything, at least this thread has highlighted the juvenile twats that can get added to the future ignore list.

Ignore feature is implemented and working fine, have at it.

 

[Nicktendo86]

Update on the story. The family of the scumbag burglar are holding a vigil for his birthday outside Richard Osborn-Brooks' house. Clear as day provocation, they even want to route the fucker's funeral procession past the house!

Friends and family of Henry Vincent, the burglar who was killed after breaking into into the home of a pensioner and his disabled wife, held a vigil close to the house where he died to mark his 38th birthday.
Around 20 women from the travelling community, who said they were relatives of Vincent, arrived at the road in Hither Green, south London, to lay flowers close to the spot where the criminal was fatally injured in the home of 78-year-old Richard Osborn-Brooks.
Some carried balloons saying "You’ll be missed" and placards featuring photographs of Vincent.
They were escorted by five police officers who tried to stop them stapling the banners and balloons to the garden fences of homeowners. Eventually, the tributes were attached to the street sign itself and a lamppost.

Vincent, who was a member of the traveller community, is expected to be buried near his family’s site in Orpington, Kent.

His family have also revealed plans to route his horse-drawn funeral procession past Mr Osborn-Brooks’ house in Hither Green, south east London.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...-killed-break-in-hold-birthday-vigil-outside/