To put it in your terms, captain, he's turned the ship around and only increased support since the introduction of the 'very left wing' manifesto. The obvious take away is to work more on that which has taken them to unexpectedly high support and less on what brought Labour down in the gutter. Your logic is non-existent. In other words: A better than expected (a few months ago) result tomorrow: MORE left-wing politics.
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UK General Election - 8th June 2017 |OT| - The Red Wedding
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To put it in your terms, captain, he's turned the ship around and only increased support since the introduction of the 'very left wing' manifesto. The obvious take away is to work more on that which has taken them to unexpectedly high support and less on what brought Labour down in the gutter. Your logic is non-existent. In other words: A better than expected (a few months ago) result tomorrow: MORE left-wing politics.
Toytown Assassin
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The majority is the number of mps more than the other parties combined.
I need to know the maths you did to come to this conclusion.
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Ah. No, it's not. It's the number of MPs more than half the total MPs. A majority is controlling more than half the seats.
It's 353-297=56, since there are only 297 non-Tories.
As long as the Conservative party exists the right wing media will never support anyone else.
Toytown Assassin
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No it really is. If the tories get 375 that's a 100 majority and a landslide win.
"I have been told that Diane [Abbott] has been diagnosed with a serious, long-term condition"
I hope everyone scoring political points, armchair diagnosing and generally yucking it up over Abbott feels really, really good about themselves.
I'm not going to quote some of the examples from this thread, you all know who you are and should be ashamed.
I hope everyone scoring political points, armchair diagnosing and generally yucking it up over Abbott feels really, really good about themselves.
I'm not going to quote some of the examples from this thread, you all know who you are and should be ashamed.
Evening Standard endorses the Tories:
It's almost as if it's edited by a former Tory cabinet minister.
toythatkills
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SporeCrawler
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so have new polls been published or why are everybody so gloomy about corbyn? last impression i got was that they have bounced from a 20 or so deficit to a 1 point difference in mere weeks so that would suggest the momentum is with corbyn.
Screaming Meat
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Yeah. That's kind of where I'm at. Corbyn needs to focus on being a credible Opposition Leader and bide his time. That is, if he isn't pushed out. Considering his performance, I think that's fairly unlikely.
Dirtyshubb
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If this turns out to be true i hope everyone who gave her shit feels disgusted with themselves.
If May survives, she is going to go the Trump route of press relationships and try to limit her exposure to platforms that arent supportive of her. She has learned a valuable lesson this election - Dont mingle with normal people.
Evening Standard endorses the Tories:
Snake man endorses snake lady.
Democracy sure is fair
I hope the twat who posted the tube picture on Twitter and those in this thread who played armchair detective feel super
The Sun back whoever is in power, it's always been that way.
The Mail back the Tories and that's it.
Blair got a landslide and the papers on side but I don't remember such huge political crowds all so suddenly.
PJV3
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Spuck-uk
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The % has likely changed a massive amount, but because of FPTP it matters very little unless those voters are in the right places. I'm expecting record Labour wins in places like London, but it won't matter in the least.
Good grief, do not read the responses to that tweet
I think we should see what the final vote is before we definitively say that he 'turned the ship around'. If the Conservatives who ran a woeful campaign gain a larger share in votes than they achieved in 2015, would you change your mind on Corbyn?
Edit: Beaten
Ah yes, good ole' Mr. Socialism himself, Tony Blair. Truly a man of the people.
Spuck-uk
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Also I've found two places in Liverpool so far that will give me a free pint to drown my sorrows after voting..
Also please don't post, retweet or otherwise give the sun any attention, it's what keeps that shitty rag afloat.
Though if you want to steal a bunch of copies and use them as kindling, nobody will judge.
Also please don't post, retweet or otherwise give the sun any attention, it's what keeps that shitty rag afloat.
Though if you want to steal a bunch of copies and use them as kindling, nobody will judge.
We weren't saying Blair was a socialist, that wasn't the argument, but he was the head of a massively re-distributive government. A "man of the people" who won two elections so overwhelmingly that people thought Tory England might be dead - quite the indictment.
Pyroclastic
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Well Bernie lost, for starters, and these crowds have mostly been in safe seats,
ferrasvansen
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Right given last days events my final forecast.
Conservative Party seats: 381
Green Party seats: 1
Labour seats: 196
Lib Dem seats: 6
Plaid Cymru seats: 2
SNP seats: 45
UKIP seats: 0
Independently held seats: 1
Seats held by other parties: 18
BONUS:
Labour wipe-out in Scotland? no
More Conservative votes than Labour in Scotland? yes
More Conservative seats than Labour in Wales? no
The Portillo award goes to..? Amber Rudd
First resignation of the night? Jeremy Corbyn
How many party leaders will resign? 2
Seat for Nuttall? no chance
Margin of victory by seats: 185
Margin of victory by votes: 3,567,001
After looking through papers, tv coverage decided it will be a bad night for everyone bar Tories. I expect though this will be the last Conservative win for a long time once brexit hits home.
Conservative Party seats: 381
Green Party seats: 1
Labour seats: 196
Lib Dem seats: 6
Plaid Cymru seats: 2
SNP seats: 45
UKIP seats: 0
Independently held seats: 1
Seats held by other parties: 18
BONUS:
Labour wipe-out in Scotland? no
More Conservative votes than Labour in Scotland? yes
More Conservative seats than Labour in Wales? no
The Portillo award goes to..? Amber Rudd
First resignation of the night? Jeremy Corbyn
How many party leaders will resign? 2
Seat for Nuttall? no chance
Margin of victory by seats: 185
Margin of victory by votes: 3,567,001
After looking through papers, tv coverage decided it will be a bad night for everyone bar Tories. I expect though this will be the last Conservative win for a long time once brexit hits home.
Huw_Dawson
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Yeah, this is far from shocking.
I can't imagine this endorsement will go down well in London, considering.
ferrasvansen
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Yeah agreed, will likely increase Labour vote in London.
PackAPunchedMick
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Whoever wins we lose.
Not sure I'm even going to vote tomorrow.
I will never in my lifetime vote Tory and corbyn is a fucking jobsworth
Not sure I'm even going to vote tomorrow.
I will never in my lifetime vote Tory and corbyn is a fucking jobsworth
Spuck-uk
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The percentages don't matter, sadly.
It was never, ever going to be a Labour victory, the best really to hope for is damage limitation, showing that a left wing manifesto is viable and that we can have something to build on.
Corbs has run a hell of a campaign against all the odds though.
Come on, man.
What's your concerns? What's your priorities?
Don't waste your chance to vote?
Spuck-uk
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The PLP will have been planning a leadership challenge for months now. Fucking LOL at them if it fails again.
SictorVullivan
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Vote for Labour not Corbyn?
Spuck-uk
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People forget that Blair did a lot of good things in power, especially at the start. Not as much as a lot of people would have liked but still.
Then he became a war criminal.
In a way I hope they call another leadership election.
And I'll watch with glee and they get destroyed, again.
Corbyn has bought a lot of people on board over the last few months and I can't imagine he's lost very many people.
Even the people who were wavering about "I like him, but it's pointless him being the leader as he unelectable" will have changed (or close to changing) their mind.
He's started enough of a movement to see him through any challenge
Spuck-uk
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There are a fair few legit criticisms of Corbyn, but a jobsworth? That's literally the opposite of true.
Standard has been in the Tory pocket for a while. It's just become particularly offensive to the concept of democracy now that it's editor was the chancellor less than a year ago.
ferrasvansen
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Yeah i was optimistic last week, but i think now it will be very large Tory majority, just too many Ukip former Labour voters going to Tories and it will be a bloodbath in Labour marginals.
I don't remember anyone in this thread saying anything bad about Abbott? Everyone was deriding the press for their harsh treatment of her.
Spuck-uk
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There have been a bunch of people saying she's useless.
Where did you draw that conclusion?
Nope, the Tories very much had a part to play for that, but at the same time so did the manifesto leak and Corbyn's continually good appearances in interviews and debates, dispelling the Tory portrayal of him.
Screaming Meat
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More fool them considering the turnaround Corbyn's clearly made. They need a decent figurehead and they've got one. His following outside the New bunch has gone up, surely?
Ravensmash
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When can we expect the final polls today?
Right, but that was before any news came out about her being ill.
That doesn't excuse any of the horrible stuff that's predominantly making the rounds on social media, but there's a key distinction.
Right, but that was before any news came out about her being ill.
That doesn't excuse any of the horrible stuff that's predominantly making the rounds on social media, but there's a key distinction.
No, I understand. From my perspective though, he still represented enough "Tory England" to make him a deeply flawed candidate and one I could not bring myself to vote for.
And then, as someone has already said, he became a jail-avoiding war criminal. A vile human.
I mean, she is. That's not based on the past few days, but on the last several years.
One can think she's useless and believe the stories that she's ill and hope she recovers soon.
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