No but for a lot of people, including the Tories, it is being treated as another referendum
can't let the saboteurs win, gotta make the UK look strong and stable.
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UK General Election - 8th June 2017 |OT| - The Red Wedding
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No but for a lot of people, including the Tories, it is being treated as another referendum
can't let the saboteurs win, gotta make the UK look strong and stable.
Audioboxer
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The leader of the UK, someone who needs to avoid unscripted human interaction or they implode. Seems like a great, stable, people's person choice. As I ranted on above with education, too many of the elite politicians are like this (Cameron ran from debates as well). It's comical at times. Completely unable to socialise with anyone outside of their top 5% bracket. It's no wonder the Tory party is pretty much the party of contempt for "poor"/sick people, and privatisation. Doesn't everyone have bank balances bursting with money, attend polo-sports/fox hunting and live in mansions in a gated community? No? Well, those people aren't trying hard enough and how dare their parents bring children into this world without first being millionaires. Fat chance of England ever trying to extend a basic free entry University education system as long as the Tory reign continues. That's secondary to the NHS which was used as a bargaining chip for Brexit all while being purposely starved of funding and dismantled!
As Malcolm Baker puts it, "I'm voting for Theresa May" cause, "EU taking all our money!".
How is this speech fitting her message. Her message was that she (they) are the only ones who can make a successful Brexit. The image she paints in this speech is neither strong nor stable.
A good opposition would fire from all canons using this and her fear of meeting people, fear of discussing with journalists, fear of joining the debates etc.
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Better than May? 10 times over. It's a systematic reoccurrence with the elitists though. Even when they try to act "common", see Farage, they end up looking like idiots. Hurr dee hurrr, check my pint and cigarettes, I'm a working man! Sure, Nigel.
Becoming a politician often equals a gateway to becoming rich. However, well socialised and down to earth people can come from varied backgrounds and earn wealth, and not instantly turn into selfish pricks. Heck, even people born into wealth can be as well rounded a person as anyone else. It doesn't take much effort on your own part to learn, understand and accept humans will come from varying backgrounds, opportunities and some people just aren't cut out to be doctors, pilots and bankers. You don't need to have contempt for those that do the jobs you don't want to (often cleaning/retail/catering/some council roles/etc). Nor those that struggle to even do the "bottom-tier" jobs in society (disabled/sick/struggling).
Choosing a politician as your career is supposed to represent you wanting to look out for/represent the people of the country, all of them. While hard choices/decisions have to be made, I'd argue a caring, socially driven society will tend to produce the "better" country. You cannot fully eradicate unfairness, inequality, poverty and hurt, but there are many ways you can aid it without making it worse and/or just not giving a shit. Too often those running the country, if not in their words (they can speak the lingo at times and pretend to care), do things behind the scenes or just in normal policy which continues to make people question what the hell is the UK trying to turn into?
zonetrooper5
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Do you have a link for that?
Would be a interesting read and seriously fuck May, total arseclown.
WhateverItTakes
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Trying to look tough for the average Leave voter. To the rest of us it sounds petulant and whiny. Strong and stable my arse.
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Audioboxer
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The Daily Mail is... The Daily Mail. The BBC is always a mixed bag (couple most recent comments ~ Over 1000 all in!)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39787353
Big John is having none of it, though. Louise after dat British courage. She must be an Apple user ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Tbh, boycotting Scottish food will probably lose you some weight! This always concerns international GAF.
Wikipedia pls, of course, it is, citation needed indeed.
The 'Great' British people. Depressing as ever.
Perhaps more campaigning (arguing) needs to be done in the comment sections of both. People literally do not care about nor read anything outside of their propaganda bubble. Finally watched her speech and its definitely a case of party before national interest. Even some in the cabinet are probably aghast.
Daily Mail = general public at this point.The Daily Mail is... The Daily Mail. The BBC is always a mixed bag (couple most recent comments ~ Over 1000 all in!)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39787353
Big John is having none of it, though. Louise after dat British courage. She must be an Apple user ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Tbh, boycotting Scottish food will probably lose you some weight! This always concerns international GAF.
Wikipedia pls, of course, it is, citation needed indeed.
Audioboxer
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I guess if you put it that way, it makes sense. Demographics would be interesting. I bet a large portion of their readers are middle aged/older (big chunk of Leave voters then...).
So off to Google I go... "the daily mail reading ages"
LOL, Google, that is a bit on the edge, no?
Anyway, back on topic
https://www.themediabriefing.com/article/youth-audiences-newspaper-old-demographics-advertising
This surprised me a bit though
The battle of old versus young continues? At least Gary Lineker is on our side? Tbh Gary, while an elite himself, is a pretty good advocate for sensible decisions for the country. Bonus Nicola giving it a go on Twitter too...
her message is that it's your national duty to vote for her to strengthen her hand in brexit negotiation
this becomes more vital if you present the eu leaders as trying to sabotage us. she needs to be as strong and stable as possible to fight them off, they know this so they are trying to interfere in the election to weaken us.
it is complete bollocks but people hate brussels bureaucrats and love petty nationalism
Billy_Pilgrim
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I'm starting to think that many of today's tories are looking at the ERM debacle as some kind of mecca to return to.
Maybe she's playing 4d chess trying to sabotage brexit so the country changes opinion and wants to stay
She was a remainer after all
I'm waiting for somebody on the UK to suggest military intervention to free Europe from the EU.
She doesn't have the brains for it. There's a reason Crosby's only given her three lines to remember and told her to avoid debates and interviews.
PJV3
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We are living in the ultimate tory wet dream, this is the future of the UK.
jimbobsmells
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WTF is she talking about I thought if we didn't get a good deal we would walk away from the table and everything would be fine. That's what the Leave side have been saying, anyway.
It's possible that the leave side may not have been trading in facts.
They trade in John Redwoods erotic fanfiction now.
Fixed.
This is basically May preparing the inevitable no deal scenario.
She has realized she cannot get a deal without crossing the red lines she has set herself(ECJ for example). From the looks of it she doesn't want to compromise and therefore will leave with no deal and blame the EU to stay in power
BossDarkseid
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why did i just get an email from John McDonnel saying Theresa has handed in her notice at the palace? 0_o
Does Labour think this is such political suicide?
Or have I missed something?
Does Labour think this is such political suicide?
Or have I missed something?
Billy_Pilgrim
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Basically, the leadership are so fucking useless that they've managed to turn this into a bad reflection on them already.
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Waiting for this election is horrible. It's like getting a handwritten letter each and every day telling you that everyone hates you and is going to kick you in the balls, but the worst part is they're not even going to do it now, they're going wait for a month to really give you the time to dwell on how awful your situation is.
Just kick us in the balls already and move on, damn it.
Waiting for this election is horrible. It's like getting a handwritten letter each and every day telling you that everyone hates you and is going to kick you in the balls, but the worst part is they're not even going to do it now, they're going wait for a month to really give you the time to dwell on how awful your situation is.
Just kick us in the balls already and move on, damn it.
Huw_Dawson
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Question Time tomorrow will feature David Davies, Paul Nuttall, Liane Wood, Rebecca Long Bailey... And the head of Siemens UK.
A non-aligned businessman, a nationalist whose party is standing in a small minority of the seats at the GE, two leading Brexiteers and a Labour spokesperson who will present no meaningful opposition.
I am beginning to see conspiracies everywhere.
A non-aligned businessman, a nationalist whose party is standing in a small minority of the seats at the GE, two leading Brexiteers and a Labour spokesperson who will present no meaningful opposition.
I am beginning to see conspiracies everywhere.
PJV3
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Conversation with a UKIP/Leave voter ...
Her: I've changed my mind, I'm going to vote for Theresa May
Me: I thought you said you'd never vote Conservative
Her: Not bloody likely! I told you, I'm voting for Theresa May
Me: She's the Prime Minister. She'a a Conservative
Her: But ... I had this Labour leaflet through the door, and it kept going on about Theresa May, I assumed she was one of theirs
Her: I've changed my mind, I'm going to vote for Theresa May
Me: I thought you said you'd never vote Conservative
Her: Not bloody likely! I told you, I'm voting for Theresa May
Me: She's the Prime Minister. She'a a Conservative
Her: But ... I had this Labour leaflet through the door, and it kept going on about Theresa May, I assumed she was one of theirs
Who'd have thought that the most critical political and economic negotiations of the post-war period might interfere with our election, eh? I mean, that fact that you called the election just when those negotiations were about to kick off ought to have been a clue...
Everything from May and co is pure political posturing at this point. Eg 'no deal better than a bad deal' - this is only true for domestic politics as you can turn it on the EU, but no reasonable person can accept it would be better economically under any circumstances.
I do hope that her doubling down on this stupid position backfires. The poll lead owes a certain amount to Remainers accepting the result and trusting the govt with the negotiation. The Brexit news lines of the last few days ought to be playing very badly indeed to those folks.
Everything from May and co is pure political posturing at this point. Eg 'no deal better than a bad deal' - this is only true for domestic politics as you can turn it on the EU, but no reasonable person can accept it would be better economically under any circumstances.
I do hope that her doubling down on this stupid position backfires. The poll lead owes a certain amount to Remainers accepting the result and trusting the govt with the negotiation. The Brexit news lines of the last few days ought to be playing very badly indeed to those folks.
Just... wow
Is she still going to vote Conservative? As a member of the UKIP faithful I'd assume so. That's where my in-laws have gone
Randy Lanzarote
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I had Labour leaflet through my door, and not once did it mention Corbyn.
The joys of living in a Remain area, the local Labour MP has to distance herself from Labour HQ.
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She's a bit, er, confused by the whole thing. Now claims to regret voting Leave, still thinks Farage would be a great PM, hates Corbyn, but family is traditional old-school Labour.
Every policy position she espouses, both of them, are straight Labour. Everything else she says might as well be BNP.
I don't think it is just Remain areas. Same here, which is strongly Leave - hence the Theresa May confusion.
Lol at the idea the EU wants to influence the election. Exactly who are they backing instead of May then? Sure as shit ain't Corbyn, a man nearly as hard Brexit as May is. As an outside observer looking on I find that there's no one who I want to see win (apart from the Lib Dems who are still fairly toxic politically). As long as the SNP maintain their numbers in Scotland who cares!
Little Old Man
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She's playing to her base and the wider electorate to solidate an election win next month. She'll worry about the inevitably disastrous talks afternoon she's ensured five more years in power to get her party facing an election three years away from the 2019 deadline rather than one.
The battle of old versus young continues? At least Gary Lineker is on our side? Tbh Gary, while an elite himself, is a pretty good advocate for sensible decisions for the country. Bonus Nicola giving it a go on Twitter too...
Pretty sad but this actually made me think 'I think Gary Lineker would be a better labour leader than we've got now'.
Corbyn should be knocking down the doors of television house tonight to get his boot in on May but instead he's just ignoring anything to do with Brexit.
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SlipperyFishes
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Because the Parliament has now been dissolved and she's now acting PM pending the results of the election. It's factual albeit wrapped in an untruthful statement.
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