Guardian reports that Conservative HQ are pissed with Michael Crick's tweets - apparently they select journalists day-to-day i.e. on rotation so everyone gets a question eventually. If they hadn't been keeping May away from the public so far then this wouldn't be a story, so it's still their own fault for being over protective.
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UK General Election - 8th June 2017 |OT| - The Red Wedding
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Guardian reports that Conservative HQ are pissed with Michael Crick's tweets - apparently they select journalists day-to-day i.e. on rotation so everyone gets a question eventually. If they hadn't been keeping May away from the public so far then this wouldn't be a story, so it's still their own fault for being over protective.
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Those are all good reading selections for anyone interested in the Labour Party or even more broadly leftwing politics in general.
Spuck-uk
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I live in Liverpool. There's a roughly 0% chance of the Tories being voted in anytime in the next generation due to the treatment of the city under Thatcher. It's a weird city in some ways, very working class, but also incredibly left wing leaning, which bucks the trend of the surrounding areas.
Us having a regional mayor is a step in the right direction though, it certainly helped Manchester in the last few years.
Spuck-uk
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This gets into another subject away from the election but..some of these places really are doomed, through no fault of the people living there, just how industry has changed so much in the last 50 years.
PJV3
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A few years ago a Tory MP got in trouble for saying some places needed bulldozing, I think he said Sunderland or something which was a little extreme.
Um, Manchester only got its Mayor last week as well?
Yeah, but this guys point is that by doing so, you basically do yourself a disservice. The Tories write you off and Labour don't try as hard to win your vote
I guess his overall point is that its better for an area to be a swing seat (or at least contain some)
I don't really agree with him, just thought it went well with the original point about Welsh voters
RedSparrows
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Sorry, missed your earlier post on this!
Huw_Dawson
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Far more sensible to suggest Lib Dems winning in Liverpool, as we ran the council for a long time, after all. That's still unlikely, and will be until 2022 at the earliest I'd say.
One aspect that people haven't really covered is how, ironically, the Tories are now seen as anti-establishment even though they are the absolute, de facto establishment. By painting the EU as the undemocratic, liberal elitist establishment, they get to be the plucky underdog that's got everyone's back.
In that respect you can understand why these Labour strongholds are now turning Conservative. The Welsh have been relying on Labour to fight for them for decades and got nowhere. But now here's Theresa May, promising to knock the stuffing out of the EU and deliver a fairer Britain for everyone. So why not back her?
The use of the EU as a scapegoat for everything wrong in this country has been spectacular and effective. Turkeys are voting for Christmas because Santa convinced them that they'd be even worse off at Easter.
In that respect you can understand why these Labour strongholds are now turning Conservative. The Welsh have been relying on Labour to fight for them for decades and got nowhere. But now here's Theresa May, promising to knock the stuffing out of the EU and deliver a fairer Britain for everyone. So why not back her?
The use of the EU as a scapegoat for everything wrong in this country has been spectacular and effective. Turkeys are voting for Christmas because Santa convinced them that they'd be even worse off at Easter.
Spuck-uk
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"In both the 2010 and 2015 general elections, Liverpool Walton also saw the highest share of the vote for a winning candidate in the country, and in the latter election, the 81.3% of the vote won by Rotheram was the highest of any candidate in an election in the UK since 1997."
The lib Dem candidate in 2015 got 2.3%. Your boy has been sent in to die.
Although if Fat Joe had gotten in as the Labour Candidate, I would have voted against him, for the Green Party, FWIW.
Spuck-uk
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Oh, I get his point, and there's merit to it. Just another reason FPTP is a goddamn awful way to run a country.
I'm not saying I believe it myself btw, hence the warning label about being provocative. I'm trying to imagine a reason for people voting in this way and some logics behind it. That was the one I came up with first.
Yep, definitely agree with that, its shit
Sorry, wasn't clear there, the "him" there referred to the guy i spoke to, not you.
But this guy is left leaning, and usually votes Labour, so I just thought it was a good comparison to go with your scenario - although it is completely anecdotal, and was for the 2015 election. He's fully abandoned that logic with the Tories going for full hard Brexit
Tony Lloyd has been the interim Mayor for GM for a year or two (he's also just been greased by being selected for Simon Danczuk's seat in Rochdale). I'm not sure how the Liverpool Mayor is set up or what powers they have, but the GM Mayor has more power than any other city region in the country (including London in some respects). The local authorities in GM have a history of close cooperation which already puts them "ahead" of Liverpool and the other more disparate city regions which don't have the same level of cooperation and integration which GM has.
Jeremy Corbyn lies about telling buzz feed reporter he wouldn't quit if he lost
https://mobile.twitter.com/jamesrbuk/status/861973270056382466
They've now banned the reporter from events.
https://mobile.twitter.com/jamesrbuk/status/861973270056382466
They've now banned the reporter from events.
JonathanEx
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Yeah, Corbyn really could have answered the question better - but I don't think he was implying we'd stay.
Meanwhile, Labour have banned Buzzfeed from events after yesterday's scoop. It's a bit of a spat over whether he said he'd stay, so obviously they posted the audio: https://www.buzzfeed.com/hannahalot...ampaign-events?utm_term=.mpV6BKkx2#.xjnvBb1oj
Meanwhile, Labour have banned Buzzfeed from events after yesterday's scoop. It's a bit of a spat over whether he said he'd stay, so obviously they posted the audio: https://www.buzzfeed.com/hannahalot...ampaign-events?utm_term=.mpV6BKkx2#.xjnvBb1oj
Jeremy would be doing a lot better if he got onto May's press routine and just said "FOR THE MANY NOT THE FEW" over and over again to every question no matter the subject. He's so bad at redirecting questions he knows he shouldn't answer, gets caught out every single time.
QuicheFontaine
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It seems to be Corbyn's MO to give an answer and then if pressed on it or the question is rephrased he says he's answered it and gets annoyed. Not a great way to deal with the press.
He should just walk off like Cameron used to do
QuicheFontaine
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Haha, see apart from getting a bit on Charlie Brooker, that basically did work.
Zvonimir Boban
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The old boy who wants the cuts reversed but is voting Tory :/ :/ :/ :/
You don't vote for the person you think will win ffs, THAT'S NOT HOW THIS IS SUPPOSED TO WORK
Immediately followed by the hi-vis safety vest asking for a lift
EDIT: The bit with the Labour candidate's dad after the results were announced is legitimately heartbreaking.
Spuck-uk
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Because of course she is. She'd have to kidnap Lois Lane at this point to look more of a villain.
Royal_Phalanx
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https://www.politicshome.com/news/u...ire-refusing-rule-out-national-insurance-hike
Labour attacking May on not ruling out NI tax rises? Is this opposite world? Thought the Conservatives were the low tax bootstrap party
Labour attacking May on not ruling out NI tax rises? Is this opposite world? Thought the Conservatives were the low tax bootstrap party
RobotNinjaHornets
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https://www.politicshome.com/news/u...ire-refusing-rule-out-national-insurance-hike
Labour attacking May on not ruling out NI tax rises? Is this opposite world? Thought the Conservatives were the low tax bootstrap party
Specifically NI tax rises for people on low to middle incomes. Not NI tax rises in general.
Sometimes all you can do is laugh.
I guess the rich have got to get their rocks off somehow. Fucking the poor and disabled and lamenting the days when Britain wasn't filled with Johnny foreigner can only take you so far.
Huw_Dawson
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Our boy was until about three hours ago the only candidate!
Predictably, Walton Labour has imploded over this and will obviously be able to show unity behind a parachuted in Corbynite.
The goal there will be to hold the deposit, I'd wager. It'd be hilarious if we won, but as I said, it won't happen in a million years.
She's a Tory. How is this a surprise?
Another great, but depressing video. John Harris is one of the best journalists at the Guardian someone who actually leaves the Westminster bubble and goes to see the utter depressing state of the UK.
Interesting about that video is how these cuts have now started to bite people who do have a bit more money, but also actually used the local services and were appreciative of them.
Seeing your library close or no longer having bus services, which in places like that are vital especially for older people to get around.
More cuts incoming. But remember we must remain Strong and stable.
Linkstrikesback
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Of course. If cruella is going to legalise Dalmatian hunting, starting with similar sized animals and then edging legislation closer to the goal of spotted dogs is a. Good place to start.
The second one. A legion of uniformed toffs smearing themselves in the blood of one fox after using a team of dogs to catch it is hardly the most efficient method.
TiredofWinning
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Uhh didn't Labour do this in 1997 with Martin Bell by joining with the Libs in not running a candidate in Neil Hamilton's seat?
edit: also guardian roundup is filled with more corbyn lolz
Well jeez Corbyn you really are fiending to destroy Labour aren't ya?
Difference between fielding a candidate and not supporting your parties candidate.
It is fairly standard fair for all parties BTW, there's nothing odd about labour expelling someone for doing this. It's stupid that they remain committed to the idea of fielding a candidate in every seat in this way, but the Tories would kick you out for doing the same as well.
Let us hope this fucks her over good and royal. Fox hunting is massively unpopular in this country.
I can't believe this is probably the most high-profile domestic, non-Brexit issue the Conservatives have been willing to take a stand on. I really can't.
http://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-politics-39852464/low-value-low-skilled-people-let-in
What a vile excuse for a human being he is.
Children of Thatcher. Everything is a meritocracy.
Jezbollah
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I think people will care more about Brexit than they will Fox hunting.
UpDownLeftRight
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You'd think economic collapse would be too but hey, here we are. I bet this does fuck all to harm her and more likely the media manages to find a way to get the public to back her on it instead.
Not as unpopular as Polish builders though.
Luckily there's an opposition to challenge May on... ah, shit.
TiredofWinning
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It ain't just IDS. This is what a lot of people on the hard left who support Brexit think as well.
Royal_Phalanx
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Never mind that those people are mostly normal people just searching for new opportunities. And ironically he's talking down to the working class by calling them low value.
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