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[Mindwipe]

This budget really does seem like an absolute clusterfuck tbh.

It's not financially responsible and it shits on the poor at the same time. It just seems incompetent from top to bottom (even if it's probably slightly better for me personally in the medium term).

 

[Sir_Crocodile]

Omnishambles 2 : This Time Nothing Happens Because There's No Opposition

 

[Uzzy]

Omnishambles 2 : This Time Nothing Happens Because There's No Opposition

Looks like some Tory rebels might be providing that opposition.

 

[Jezbollah]

Looks like a deal has been struck to exclude the UK from the EU "Tampon Tax"

About fucking time.

 

[Roberto Larcos]

Looks like a deal has been struck to exclude the UK from the EU "Tampon Tax"

About fucking time.

Why isn't every EU country against this?

 

[Fernando Fernandez]

A new poll has put Labour ahead of the Conservatives for the first time since Jeremy Corbyn was elected leader.

Labour was on 34 per cent, with Tories one point behind on 33 per cent, according to the YouGov poll. Ukip was in third place on 16 per cent with the Lib Dems on six per cent.

Forget what I said about YouGov earlier in the thread. Not bad for "No opposition"

 

[Par Score]

In more good news for Labour, the arch-Blairite, sexter of teenage girls, accused rapist, and all around wanker Simon Danczuk has now been done for £11,000 of expenses fraud.

Of course since he's an MP this means he gets to repay the money and say sorry, rather than face the sort of fines, community service or even prison time handed out to common fraudulent benefits claimants.

 

[Jezbollah]

A new poll has put Labour ahead of the Conservatives for the first time since Jeremy Corbyn was elected leader.

Labour was on 34 per cent, with Tories one point behind on 33 per cent, according to the YouGov poll. Ukip was in third place on 16 per cent with the Lib Dems on six per cent.

Forget what I said about YouGov earlier in the thread. Not bad for "No opposition"

Woof. That'll put the cat among the pigeons.

PMQs next week will be a bit good

 

[Mindwipe]

Woof. That'll put the cat among the pigeons.

PMQs next week will be a bit good

These poll numbers are catastrophic for Gideon.

He was shooting fish in a barrel and has hit his own foot.

 

[Uzzy]

Anyone see Nicky Morgan's performance on Question Time last night? Rather impressive how she claimed that the Budget was now a 'suggestion.' Looks like the cuts in disability benefits are unravelling rather quickly, with more Tory MP's expressing concern about them now. Might we see another defeat for Osborne?

 

[Pie and Beans]

Holy shit. Ian Duncan Smith, one of the triforce of evil has resigned over the disability cuts? Too low down and dirty even for him. Maybe I was wrong, maybe Osborne does get to be the Thatcher.

 

[Fernando Fernandez]

Interesting from the man behind the bedroom tax.

 

[Jezbollah]

Wow. Just, wow.

 

[JonathanEx]

Tories eating themselves. Have you read his resignation letter? It's remarkable.

Never thought I'd say it but well done IDS.

 

[Empty]

oh my god lol osborne.

he gets so over-confident then just destroys himself.

ids letter is perfectly written to fuck him

 

[Beefy]

http://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/710932758386896898/photo/1

His letter.

I don't believe him but this is huge.

 

[Spookie]

Glorious.

 

[Mindwipe]

That didn't even take a week like I expected.

 

[Kuros]

Yeah I think this is also so be can go full mental on the leave campaign.

Horrible man.

 

[Jezbollah]

Tories eating themselves. Have you read his resignation letter? It's remarkable.

Never thought I'd say it but well done IDS.

It's funny that the most effect opposition the Cabinet are facing is their own party..

 

[JonathanEx]

So obviously there'll be an element of party politics to his decision (not to dismiss what he says in the letter as well, just that there's more to it), my thoughts are...

- Can campaign more freely feeling for Leave, and when it wins and Cameron gets deposed, Boris will make him chancellor or some crazy shit
- Actually Osbourne making all the departments make last minute slices every budget due to his own failure to plan properly would get annoying progressively moreso.
- You don't want teflon Dave and George to get no flack when you know there's a shitstorm coming over the 4bn.
- There were more stories coming out about how Universal Credit is fucked up the fucking fuck

But fair play to doing it on a Friday 9pm that's incredible news management, this'll dominate through Monday.

--

Tweet from Isabel Oakeshott:
Hang on a minute - Treasury was telling me earlier today that it was all IDS’s idea?!

Then again someone told her about Cameron and the pig and she believed that without reason

 

[Mr. Sam]

It's funny that the most effect opposition the Cabinet are facing is their own party..

Well, not really. It's always going to be more impactful when somebody on your own side - never mind the work and pensions secretary - breaks ranks.

 

[Fernando Fernandez]

http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/201...l-challenge-to-keep-universal-credit-problems

Might have something to do with this.

 

[Jezbollah]

http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/201...l-challenge-to-keep-universal-credit-problems

Might have something to do with this.

funnily enough I was just going to post that some on Twitter seem to think now IDS is gone, Osborne can get rid of Universal Credit.. Hmm.

 

[kmag]

Nothing to do with the cuts, that's just cover. The Disability cuts were punted into consultation and review this afternoon. He's essentially resigned over cuts after they've been pulled. He's fluffed the timing, if he'd done it yesterday he'd have had them over the coals in regards to the cuts, they've have looked even weaker pulling it after the resignation.

 

[Maledict]

I'm sure Europe is at the heart of this. IDS is a major euro-sceptic, and now he'll be able to campaign for leaving Europe far more effectively.

 

[Uzzy]

No one's talking about the sugar tax now at least. Time to celebrate with some of Gideon's finest coke.

 

[CharmingCharlie]

Whilst I would love to celebrate IDS departure, I am afraid part of me is dreading what complete and utter arsehole is going to replace him. The way this government is going in 6 months time we will be looking back on IDS's era and thinking "well he was really a kind hearted moderate really".

 

[kharma45]

Whilst I would love to celebrate IDS departure, I am afraid part of me is dreading what complete and utter arsehole is going to replace him. The way this government is going in 6 months time we will be looking back on IDS's era and thinking "well he was really a kind hearted moderate really".

Pritti Patel

 

[Protome]

Whilst I would love to celebrate IDS departure, I am afraid part of me is dreading what complete and utter arsehole is going to replace him. The way this government is going in 6 months time we will be looking back on IDS's era and thinking "well he was really a kind hearted moderate really".

Hunt will somehow get the job, because why not.

 

[Nicktendo86]

Wowsers. We now basically have an opposition and government in total shambles.

 

[JonathanEx]

Wowsers. We now basically have an opposition and government in total shambles.

What's a shambles bigger than an omnishambles? Is an omegashambles bigger? almightishambles? All-incompasshambles?

 

[Nicktendo86]

What's a shambles bigger than an omnishambles? Is an omegashambles bigger? almightishambles? All-incompasshambles?

I think clusterfuck sums it up pretty much.

I really don't know what the political landscape will look like in 2020 but I am pretty certain of one thing; George Osbourne won't be PM.

 

[Jezbollah]

Yeah GO is now fucked. The idiot was too set in his way politically to get a surplus by 2020, and he couldnt face up to not being able to do it his way. He's been called out on it and now his leadership credentials are down the drain.

 

[Uzzy]

From Laura Kuenssberg's twitter.

Stand by for what I’ve been told was the timetable that led to IDS resignation.

Treasury tells DWP they have to get long term PIPs changes ready for Budget so the savings can be included – DWP reluctantly agrees.

Story about PIPS changes breaks on Friday, campaign groups, opposition and some backbench MPs start to get worried.

On Sat, IDS finds out Budget will also give CGT cuts to better off at the same time as cuts to disability benefit cuts for individuals.

IDS even more cross, but keeps quiet.

After Budget, opposition and backbenchers start to speak out against PIP changes.

Thursday, Treasury and Number 10 pressure IDS’ team and DWP to get out and defend the changes, saying they must not back down.

Late Thurs night, Morgan hints that there might be changes altho DWP been told to stand firm, even more grumpiness.

Govt sources say late today that policy dumped, ‘into the long grass’ – IDS furious they are dumping on policy they forced him to adopt.

He decides to quit, PM fails to persuade him to stay – explosive letter drops, ‘all in this together’?

That version of events may/will be denied in next few hours, but that’s what I can piece together from good sources close to it tonight.

 

[Nicktendo86]

Number 10 wanted him gone, I think that's what this boils down to.

 

[Coriolanus]

Wowsers. We now basically have an opposition and government in total shambles.

I was under the impression that the oppo was finally starting to get settled *a bit*. Is this not the case?

 

[Nicktendo86]

I was under the impression that the oppo was finally starting to get settled *a bit*. Is this not the case?

They have just faded into the background as the Tories are tearing themselves over Europe, Labour are still a mess 😋

 

[pulsemyne]

They have just faded into the background as the Tories are tearing themselves over Europe, Labour are still a mess 😋

Compared to the tories they look positively united. What a good day this was.

 

[Roberto Larcos]

They have just faded into the background as the Tories are tearing themselves over Europe, Labour are still a mess 😋

Perhaps this can serve to motivate the fuckers to tow the party line from now on. Because if they do, there's a genuine chance that they might manage to actually get into power next cycle.

Of course, I give it a week until Labour decides to oit-crisis the Tories.

 

[tomtom94]

Stephen Crabb is IDS' replacement. Alun Cairns becomes the new Welsh Secretary.

 

[Nicktendo86]

Stephen Crabb is IDS' replacement. Alun Cairns becomes the new Welsh Secretary.

Crabb is a good choice. Being sounded out as a possible leadership challenger as well.

 

[Lirlond]

Crabb is a good choice??

Just so bad as IDS.

 

[Nicktendo86]

Grew up on housing estate to single mother, worked for charity, food bank patron etc. Refreshing antidote to the Oxbridge leadership. You Might not agree with his voting records but I think he will do well.

 

[samn]

Grew up on housing estate to single mother, worked for charity, food bank patron etc. Refreshing antidote to the Oxbridge leadership. You Might not agree with his voting records but I think he will do well.

I don't see how working for a charity or a foodbank would make him a good W&P minister.

It's a common Tory line that it's okay to have a tattered government safety net because charities/foodbanks are there to mop everything else up. They see them as evidence that government need not step in to fix every problem, not that government is failing.

As for coming from a 'humble background', that hardly stops many Tories both in the cabinet and on the backbenches from supporting policies that would be a nightmare for themselves growing up.

 

[tomtom94]

I don't see how working for a charity or a foodbank would make him a good W&P minister.

It's a common Tory line that it's okay to have a tattered government safety net because charities/foodbanks are there to mop everything else up. They see them as evidence that government need not step in to fix every problem, not that government is failing.

As for coming from a 'humble background', that hardly stops many Tories both in the cabinet and on the backbenches from supporting policies that would be a nightmare for themselves growing up.

You're making the mistake of coming at this from an opposition perspective. From the perspective of "will he do what Osborne wants" Nicktendo is probably correct. Then again I reckon the job's a poisoned chalice anyway, especially considering he's going to have to deal with the fallout from Universal Credit. If he does have leadership credentials I can't see them lasting long in that post.

 

[samn]

You're making the mistake of coming at this from an opposition perspective. From the perspective of "will he do what Osborne wants" Nicktendo is probably correct. Then again I reckon the job's a poisoned chalice anyway, especially considering he's going to have to deal with the fallout from Universal Credit. If he does have leadership credentials I can't see them lasting long in that post.

That's not the perspective Nicktendo was coming from.

 

[Jezbollah]

So the Tory rebellion to the budget "is on" according to a few tweets. It could be the first time since 1984 a budget bill has failed to be passed.

 

[Beefy]

So the Tory rebellion to the budget "is on" according to a few tweets. It could be the first time since 1984 a budget bill has failed to be passed.

Would Osborne walk if this happens?

 

[Roberto Larcos]

Would Osborne walk if this happens?

No, but he probably should.