yo_soy_el_topo
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zlatko said:
Yeah this is all I could think too. Quite a bummer.
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UMVC3: Phoenix Wright and Nova Revealed!
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Yeah this is all I could think too. Quite a bummer.
SephirothRK
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some of the 10 changes are conflicting with each other/have different function. Are we to assume Capcom blog has the correct translation?
Red Arremer
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Yo dahbomb, do you have a link to your Vergil moveset?
sixteen-bit
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Does Nova have a flight mode?
Red Arremer
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_dementia said:
Good question.
IntelliHeath, can you check that?
Becquerel said:Good question.
IntelliHeath, can you check that?
I'm sure I saw in one of the videos cancelling flight mode during an air combo.
Yup right here against Wesker
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xkxtfjtH8s&feature=youtu.be&hd=1&t=2m10s
Can't wait to play Phoenix Wright He should definitely be viable, especially if that Maya shield is good at blocking projectiles. You can call assist, call shield, and look for evidence (was shown in a gameplay trailer).
And to whoever was asking a while back about how he was shooting three projectiles out, that was the knife evidence. Every new piece of evidence you pick up can be used repeatedly for a different type of projectile.
I haven't been able to figure out the difference between the first two stances yet.
Also wondering if you whiff the "Objection!", do you lose your evidence? That wouldn't be good.
Nova looks great. He blasted someone across the screen into hard knockdown, FULLSCREEN OTG'd him, and then linked a COMBO after it. Wtf. He can pick up combos like a champ. And is human rocket hyper has invincibility frames/super armor. Looks like invincibility frames, and enough to make it through Arthur's goddess bracelet.
He should definitely be viable, especially if that Maya shield is good at blocking projectiles. You can call assist, call shield, and look for evidence (was shown in a gameplay trailer).And to whoever was asking a while back about how he was shooting three projectiles out, that was the knife evidence. Every new piece of evidence you pick up can be used repeatedly for a different type of projectile.
I haven't been able to figure out the difference between the first two stances yet.
Also wondering if you whiff the "Objection!", do you lose your evidence? That wouldn't be good.
Nova looks great. He blasted someone across the screen into hard knockdown, FULLSCREEN OTG'd him, and then linked a COMBO after it. Wtf. He can pick up combos like a champ. And is human rocket hyper has invincibility frames/super armor. Looks like invincibility frames, and enough to make it through Arthur's goddess bracelet.
QisTopTier
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Wow looks like both Iron Fist and Nova were both taught how to fight by Jam xD
He and phoenix both look pretty viable though
He and phoenix both look pretty viable though
SolarKnight
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dankir said:
It's pretty much full screen and instant, so yeah, like Mag.
~Devil Trigger~
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_dementia said:
Its Nova, he HAS to be able to fly
i think one of the vids had him do a flight combo of sorts
lemme look again
He did a flight cancel combo and after his air rocket punch he did sort of a hover._dementia said:
He appears to have a forward/back air dash as well.. or a really fast flight hover forward. It's in the Phoenix Wright vs Nova video.
I also want to check if Nova's specials can be charged or the inputs on them.
My theory fighter Vergil moveset or the actual UMVC3 Vergil moveset? The actual Vergil moveset can be found on SRK's UMVC3 forum in the Vergil Dark Slayer thread first page. I don't have one on me but I will gladly type one out if you really need it.
ShockingAlberto
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I like the "waste of the slot" idea.
As if they had a quota of slots and slowly began filling them as opposed to deciding on characters and adding and removing as need be.
As if they had a quota of slots and slowly began filling them as opposed to deciding on characters and adding and removing as need be.
~Devil Trigger~ said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xkxtfjtH8s&feature=youtu.be&hd=1&t=2m15s
In air against Wesker.
Red Arremer
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Dahbomb said:
The theory fighter one.
SolarKnight
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ShockingAlberto said:
It's more like "why would they waste their resources in a character I don't like?!", but yeah.
Banana Kid
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Sorry that in a game with only 50 characters, there's one that isn't designed for you. I can see how that would ruin everything.Heezzi said:
QisTopTier
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He probably wants venom and gambit also mega man.Banana Kid said:
Venom = RAWR I GOT SHITTY ASS NORMALS AND SPECIAL MOVES RAWR VENOM FANG LOLOL
Gambit = HEY GUYZ IM A SHITTY AKUMA WITH A WALL FLIP MOVE BRB GONNA GO PLAY SOME YUGIOHZ
Megaman = an even SHITTIER ARTHUR AY AY AY AY AY HEY GUYS I PRESS ONE BUTTAN AND DO FIRE BALLZ AM I COOL YET OMG A PLANE WEEEE oh wait they gave that super to arthur
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=30589350&postcount=12513Becquerel said:
Posted around a month before the actual reveal. The actual one came pretty close to this although looking back my Vergil was way more broken (especially Nelo Angelo... I intentionally went overboard with that one).
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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ShockingAlberto said:
Are you really going to suggest that there isnt some merit to the idea that development time used on one character could not not have been used on a different one instead?
Waste of a slot is a way of articulating the opinion that the devs could of used that same dev time on a more fitting character, not that there is some kind of pre-decided limit on how many characters will be made, before even taking into resources and dev time.
Grecco said:
I never have suggested otherwise.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Ultimoo said:
I'll always remember some of the lol around the Street Fighter IV reveal. So many salty opinions about how Street Fighter should be "serious fighting for serious bros" and characters like El Furte were "cartoons". (Yet characters like Abel were boring and ordinary... okay.)
I think as with Megaman's picture on the DoFP wall, Capcom knows there's teasing in order about fan demands.
But honestly, I'm glad that they seem to be aware one cannot adhere to every single fan demand else you'd either end up with a complete mess, or with a game that never changes and always stays the same.
If some people had their way, MVC3 would be MVC2.5 with the same 55 characters, plus 30 more X-Men.
With the exception of no Megaman being a tad weird (I am not a Megaman obsessive, sorry), and a lack of Doctor Octopus / Green Goblin, I'm perfectly happy with UMVC3's roster. Now it feels really polished off, regardless of more possible characters Niituma wanted to add. There's extreme diversity on both Capcom and Marvel sides. Tons of franchises are represented.
I would not actually trade characters like Nick for Megaman or one of the Spider-Man villains though, because characters like Wright give the roster an unpredictable edge. It's especially nice that PW even gets his own system w/ hud and meter. Capcom's done an excellent job of making the entire roster almost unique between characters.
Even Nova, who looks thematically similar to Iron Man at a glance, is built on unique mechanics.
Red Arremer
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Dahbomb said:
Thanks. I'll be doing a Stardust one (and maybe a Numberman.EXE one) for the funsies, just to show how much potential for a badass moveset a Herald of Galactus has.
ShockingAlberto
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No, I am saying that it is a ridiculous false dichotomy.ThoughtsOfSpeaking said:
Character X exists, therefore hypothetical Character Y can't. If only character X didn't exist, then character Y totally would!
Character Y would exist if they felt he or she was marketable enough to be in the game and it fit what they wanted to do with the character. Firebrand is only in the game because they wanted someone who could fly. Phoenix Wright is in the game because they probably wanted another multi-stance character that operated uniquely. If it weren't Wright, it would be someone else who plays similarly.
Nevermind that it's just pure, stupid whining in the first place. But then I couldn't use the words "false dichotomy."
OmnipotentO
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Bro, did you not see this posted yet?Heezzi said:
Vaztor said:
Mine is Nemesis. It's just a big zombie and Resident Evil is well represented in the game with three characters already with Wesker being quite good. But I'm not a Resident Evil fan, and reading what people are saying about Nemesis, it seems people are happy about him, so I'm not going to rain on their parade (apart from this post.) But thanks to the leak, I knew my character was coming later, so I'm happy. Phoenix Wright looks fun. Silly fun, even, and that's what this new set of characters was missing.Banana Kid said:
I'd still trade in Nemesis for Megaman X, though, but I'm fine with just Phoenix Wright as he's more interesting than I'd imagine X could be. I'm already theory fighting in the back of my mind with teams that feature Phoenix Wright, but I'll need to get my hands on the lawyer before I'll know. Come on Nov. 18th with Marvel AND Zelda releasing here...
Red Arremer
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ShockingAlberto
is too reasonable
for this forum
is too reasonable
for this forum
MiniBossBattle
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Theory fighter is the best. Nova looks great. Nice combos after throws, I think I saw an overhead.
Wright looks awesome but I wonder how he will be able to get in on some zoning teams.
Wright looks awesome but I wonder how he will be able to get in on some zoning teams.
QisTopTier
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I think the thing with Nemesis is that capcom wanted their own sentinel type finally. I mean there is a monster hunter monster but those guys didn't want anything to do with the game. So I think we got our winged beast pick split along with big dude. Fine by me though as I would have firebrand over any other character capcom could add yes even PW.McNum said:
http://www.capcom.co.jp/mvsc3/character_naruhodo.html
Phoenix Wright theme..so good.
You can also check out Nova.
Phoenix Wright theme..so good.
You can also check out Nova.
SmithnCo said:
Looking back on it, I actually think the leaking of the roster is turning out to be a good thing for Capcom.
The hype is still present for the reveals, but we already know who's in the game and it cuts down on the rage posts a bit when each time reveals occur, it's not the faves of clique A or clique B..
Red Arremer
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McNum said:
You could almost say Nemesis is... *puts on shades* your nemesis.
YEEEAAHHHHH!
Duran said:
Is already in the OP. If you guys want a looped version for your mp3 player or whatnot, just tell me, I can deliver.
Hot Coldman
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Becquerel said:
Taking the lack of RR that bad, huh
Phoenix Wright is purely in due to fan request as after MMX he was the most requested character (or top 3). They came up with the mechanics for Phoenix Wright AFTER they chose him on the roster not before. Firebrand on the other hand was picked because they wanted a character on Capcom's side with insane aerial maneuverability and Nemesis was added to balance the Capcom's side with a tanky/tall character type.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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ShockingAlberto said:
While I agree if you look at this from a marketing and business sense, I just don't see how it is whining. In every FG game, people will have opinions on who will work better within the game. Nobody (at least I hope not) is crying into their cereal that phoenix is in, but I do consider it perfectly valid for people to suggest that he isn't a good fit for the game.
Edit: As Dahbomb pointed out, his inclusion is a direct result of fanservice and people "whining" about the fact he wasn't in the game. It works both ways.
Banana Kid said:
Well 4 of my mains are not in the game. Captain Commando, War Machine, Megaman, and Jin.. (Stars Jill too.)
My whole team is gone. War Machine isn't much of a loss due to Iron Man but still. They didn't add any of those just so they can add wack ass Phoenix Wright?
C'mon son.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
ThoughtsOfSpeaking said:
One problem with "waste of a slot" is that it insinuates some players are more valuable than others, as are the characters they want to see. Fantasy crossovers are fan service games... developers should be trying to create a balance of what everyone wants to see, so there's at least something for everyone. Not listen to a single opinion that insists "the only characters that should be in the game are those that fit one theme".
Whether people like it or not, PW was a heavily requested character. There's already folks engaged in specious rationalization that everyone who wanted him won't even play him, in order to justify that he's objectively a waste of resources.
Characters like Mega Man or yes, Gambit, are heavily requested too... but fans of those series already have service, such as Zero, or half a dozen X-Men in the game.
I will never play Akuma, Hulk, Boob Phoenix, or Viper because I'm entirely uninterested in them. If I wanted I could complain that they shouldn't be in there because then I could have Mega Man or Hayato, who I do want to play. Except that'd be stupid because those other characters are in the game for a valid reason. And if I can't find 20 other characters in a massive cast who I want to play as much a Mega Man or Hayato, I should give up and go back to playing MVC2.