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UMVC3: Phoenix Wright and Nova Revealed!

RE alone makes more money than almost all those games combined. That's a sentiment that you have (sacrificing a big name Capcom franchise for another) but it's definitely not what the majority of fans or even Capcom have.

Capcom should be fleshing out as much of their series as possible not sacrificing some for one like they are doing with RE + DmC for Dragon's Dogma.

LMAO @ "rebirth" of Darkstalkers. Imagine if Capcom went to MK developers to make the next Darkstalkers game.
 
Dahbomb said:
RE alone makes more money than almost all those games combined. That's a sentiment that you have (sacrificing a big name Capcom franchise for another) but it's definitely not what the majority of fans or even Capcom have.

Capcom should be fleshing out as much of their series as possible not sacrificing some for one like they are doing with RE + DmC for Dragon's Dogma.

LMAO @ "rebirth" of Darkstalkers. Imagine if Capcom went to MK developers to make the next Darkstalkers game.
It'd be like if Capcom went to Ninja Theory to design the next Dante.

Also, is Invisible Woman card confirmed? Had to duck out recently.
 
Dahbomb said:
LMAO @ "rebirth" of Darkstalkers. Imagine if Capcom went to MK developers to make the next Darkstalkers game.
Then I might enjoy it.

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Is there a tournament going right now, or a pro player exhibition? I just heard Megaman Steve is playing on Capcom Unity stream.
 
Oldschoolgamer said:
MegaMan Steve already showing why Zero is going to be an absolute bitch in this game....

As if he wasn't already.
 
enzo_gt said:
It'd be like if Capcom went to Ninja Theory to design the next Dante.

Also, is Invisible Woman card confirmed? Had to duck out recently.

Yes.

seth was just on stream

- seperate mode, online or offline
- 2 of the same type cards cannot be used
- Nightcrawler actually has 2 cards
-Nemesis can become nigh unbeatable with cards
- you can see what cards an opponent uses in a lobby
- only the heralds have the sliver texture
- galaxtus isnt playable online
- free DLC after launch
-100 cards to choose from.
 
ThoughtsOfSpeaking said:
and what happens when going "balls to the wall" means going to western studios to "rebirth" the characters and just concerning themselves with the gameplay balance?
This is a silly notion because it would neccesitate across the board treatment for every character. Do you think that they would actually let Western devs handle the entire cast just because a couple of characters could use a western focus?

You also have to remember that their fighting game projects have actually been a great success. Every SF title(except AE which would've been obvious to anyone) has sold fantastically well and Vanilla MvC sold 2 million copies despite glaring flaws and glitches. SFxTekken will also almost surely sell over two million copies after another revision. Those games are not going anywhere for now if UMvC3 sells at least 750k when it is all said and done.

It'd take a catastrophic showing from SFxTekken AND SFV to make them do something that stupid.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking said:
Your not looking long term here. A successful DmC show that strategy might work for other games. With capcom fighters in particular getting alot of flak over their story modes, or rather lack of, I dont see that far fetched for them to consider bringing in outside help if they think it will make their fighting games more viable to casuals.
I don't care if they want to let someone else handle story mode so long as they handle the core of the game in it's mechanics and art.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking said:
be careful what you wish for. I only dread to think what a "rebirthed" Hsien Ko would look like.
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It can't get any worse than it already is.
Dahbomb said:
LMAO @ "rebirth" of Darkstalkers. Imagine if Capcom went to MK developers to make the next Darkstalkers game.
That won't happen any time soon.
 
ThoughtsOfSpeaking said:
Yes.

seth was just on stream

- seperate mode, online or offline
- 2 of the same type cards cannot be used
- Nightcrawler actually has 2 cards
-Nemesis can become nigh unbeatable with cards
- you can see what cards an opponent uses in a lobby
- only the heralds have the sliver texture
- galaxtus isnt playable online
- free DLC after launch
-100 cards to choose from.
Thanks.

Was Gambit + Exodia-ish cards confirmed or just trolls?

Are heralds a card, or part of the Galactus mode? Or are they the same thing?

We should get a list of cards going. The parry card should just have a picture of Daigo on it.

EDIT: And are cards per-character or per-team?
 
ThoughtsOfSpeaking said:
Yes.

seth was just on stream

- seperate mode, online or offline
- 2 of the same type cards cannot be used
- Nightcrawler actually has 2 cards
-Nemesis can become nigh unbeatable with cards
- you can see what cards an opponent uses in a lobby
- only the heralds have the sliver texture
- galaxtus isnt playable online
- free DLC after launch
-100 cards to choose from.
Nice, can't wait to download the first Shadow Battle pack for free again.
 
SailorDaravon said:
If this is a completely different mode that's separate from the normal versus mode or whatever then fuck yeah, why not.
It's amazing how this one little difference leads to completely different reactions between the SFxT reveal vs the MvC3 reveal. Crazy hard-to-balance stuff = awesome on the side, annoying in the main.
 
OK, so I'm back here on an off moment from full on Season's Beatings stream monstering and reading the last 2 pages (100ppp)...

WHAT. THE. ACTUAL. BASED. MAHVEL. FUCK. IS. GOING. ON.

Dahbomb said:
So anyone else have the urge to recreate Daigo moment UMVC3 style?

Parry a full Shinkuu Hadoken, Legion Arrow, or Million Dollars into one touch KO combo... Shit already sounds hype without visuals. :lol
 
SailorDaravon said:
If this is a completely different mode that's separate from the normal versus mode or whatever then fuck yeah, why not.
kirblar said:
It's amazing how this one little difference leads to completely different reactions between the SFxT reveal vs the MvC3 reveal. Crazy hard-to-balance stuff = awesome on the side, annoying in the main.
It is. I'm happy as long as it's the Gem system without autoblock/autotech nonsense, which it's looking like. Making leagues of difference in my impressions of both systems.

the chris said:
Nice, can't wait to download the first Shadow Battle pack for free again.
What it means is the Heroes and Heralds mode is free DLC day 1. So yeah, enjoy the first Card pack for free basically.
 
SolarPowered said:
This is a silly notion because it would neccesitate across the board treatment for every character. Do you think that they would actually let Western devs handle the entire cast just because a couple of characters could use a western focus?

why not? The love for some of the recent SF DLC shows people wouldn't be as adverse to a character update as you would think.

SolarPowered said:
You also have to remember that their fighting game projects have actually been a great success. Every SF title(except AE which would've been obvious to anyone) has sold fantastically well and Vanilla MvC sold 2 million copies despite glaring flaws and glitches. SFxTekken will also almost surely sell over two million copies after another revision. Those games are not going anywhere for now.

DMC4 was the most succesful DMC game and the 9th most successful capcom game ever, outselling MVC3 and only just under Vanilla SFIV. Whats your point?

SolarPowered said:
I don't care if they want to let someone else handle story mode so long as they handle the core of the game in it's mechanics and art.

But why bother with the art, when you can just come in every 2 months and supervise the balance?

SolarPowered said:
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It can't any worse than it already is.

Not a capcom fighter, but still much better than this

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SolarPowered said:
That won't happen any time soon.

That was more of a joke because they are owned by WB, but the same principle applies.
 
enzo_gt said:
Thanks.

Was Gambit + Exodia-ish cards confirmed or just trolls?

Are heralds a card, or part of the Galactus mode? Or are they the same thing?

We should get a list of cards going. The parry card should just have a picture of Daigo on it.

EDIT: And are cards per-character or per-team?

Dont remember them mentioning gambit, but I think its safe to say he is in if nightcrawer is.

The video showed at the panel will be available online soon.

I think the cards are per team.
 
On stream:

*Sentinel getting level 3'd*
"Oh man he had the knife too!!"

I'm laughing so hard at this haha. This is the closest to pro-Phoenix Wright play we've got so far. He does mad chip in Turnabout mode.

Cap's shield goes right through Maya hmm.
 
Stream is shutting down now. Interview with Niitsuma-san tomorrow at 10:30 EST on stream.

If I've got this right, these are the cars we know of so far:

Character - Ability granted

Nightcrawler - Teleportation
Nightcrawler - ?
Invisible Woman - Invisibility
Howard the Duck - ?
? - Parrying
? - Assist Super Armor
? - X-Factor Blowback
? - Dizzying Attacks
? - Projectile Invincibility
? - Special-cancellable specials
? - Invisible vitality gauge
 
I can never get the codes! *shakes fist*

How is it that Maya can block entires beams (and some hypers it seems), but Cap's shield actually goes through it? wtf...
 
enzo_gt said:
Stream is shutting down now. Interview with Niitsuma-san tomorrow at 10:30 EST on stream.

If I've got this right, these are the cars we know of so far:

Character - Ability granted

Nightcrawler - Teleportation
Nightcrawler - Some kind of blinking air dash
Invisible Woman - Invisibility
Howard the Duck - ?
? - Parrying
? - Assist Super Armor
? - X-Factor Blowback
? - Dizzying Attacks
? - Projectile Invincibility
? - Special-cancellable specials
? - Invisible vitality gauge

fixed.
 
ThoughtsOfSpeaking said:
Is this what Seth described it as? Seems too similar to teleportation.

I'm gonna run through the stream again to catch what the audio director said about it too.

EDIT: Forgot, archives are fucked on J/twitch.tv right now -.- video loads, you can't play it though :/
 
I guess they decided not to show costumes today?
ThoughtsOfSpeaking said:
why not? The love for some of the recent SF DLC shows people wouldn't be as adverse to a character update as you would think.
I don't know what you are talking about here. Was this DLC update made by Americans or something? I don't even recall talking about DLC right here.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking said:
DMC4 was the most succesful DMC game and the 9th most successful capcom game ever, outselling MVC3 and only just under Vanilla SFIV. Whats your point?
DMC is an action game franchise. The nature of the game just makes it a lot more accessible than fighters. It'd be like comparing Call of Duty to Civilization or something.

You also have to understand that the roof for fighters is absolutely limited for a company like Capcom. Their biggest mascots still pale in front of Nintendo characters that draw nearly ten million to the game like flies to honey.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking said:
But why bother with the art, when you can just come in every 2 months and supervise the balance?
Capcom has a vested interest in keeping the art Japanese(and in their hands). This is one of the most basic things for any company and I'm surprised that you don't get that. Capcom may make strange decisions about how they portray their characters, but it's a lot easier to fix problems that crop up when they are handling everything themselves.
 
so does maya's shield block a certain amount of damage or a certain amount of hits or everything in a certain amount of time?

Basically Nemesis super vs Maya go!
 
I was playing DnD and come back to absolute confusion.

So... there's a mode you can play Galactus in? And there's cards? Waaaaat?
And no goddamn Rocky?
 
SolarPowered said:
I don't know what you are talking about here. Was this DLC update made by Americans or something? I don't even recall talking about DLC right here.


No, we were talking about, you thinking the western developed DmC could mean more money for fighter. I was countering that a Succesful Western developed DmC is one step closer to a western developed Capcom fighter. I pointed out that people aren't as attached to the original designs of characters as they think or Alt costumes wouldn't have proved as succesful as they have in SF4.


SolarPowered said:
Capcom has a vested interest in keeping the art Japanese(and in their hands). This is one of the most basic things for any company and I'm surprised that you don't get that. Capcom may make strange decisions about how they portray their characters, but it's a lot easier to fix problems that crop up when they are handling everything themselves.

So. Explain. DmC.
 
ThoughtsOfSpeaking said:
I guess they decided not to show costumes today?

Apparently not.
Let's wait patiently, though, I can imagine the schedule of the Capcom and Marvel people being really stuffed. Chris Baker definitely is heavily involved atm, lol.
 
Report:

Ghost Rider's thc with heartless spire is the chain whirlwind super.

Nova's thc with reflector assist is the beam super. The other two assist give you maximum nova (idk the real name).

My friend says that Nova should be able to do flight combos, but the timing on his air normals is a bit off. We're going to give it another go tomorrow. Also, after otg slide, you should go into super because of hit stun deterioration. High gravametric pulse is his reflector and has three hits of durability, so it loses to high durability projectiles. Basic wall bounce combo does about a 1/2 Hulk's health with no super.

Edit: Two Nova combos kill Nemesis. His tri jump is like some where between vanilla doom and mags in speed.
 
Dahbomb said:
LMAO @ "rebirth" of Darkstalkers. Imagine if Capcom went to MK developers to make the next Darkstalkers game.
Would probably sell more than SFIV with the backing of the WB also. All that gore in 3D? Hell, you could look at it as skull girls with a bigger budget.

SolarPowered said:
It's not even a contest. It sucks, but I'd rather let RE or DMC take the bullet if it meant that they could go balls to the wall with their fighters.
RE is basically a pillar of the company at this point, you think more experimentation would happen if it failed? (can't lie, I don't think Raccoon City will be too hot.)
 
ThoughtsOfSpeaking said:
playing fine for me so far..thanks.
Why isn't it working for me? :( Switched to chrome and it worked though, hmm.

Becquerel said:
Okay, so.

WTF is happening? I really don't understand anything at all.
All I know is no Rocky and that makes me one upset motherfucker.
New mode. Heroes and Heralds: pick from over 100 cards that give your characters abilities. 3 cards per team, they're stacked so the one at the top is more effective than the one below, and the one below that. They all reference Marvel/Capcom characters, and pertain to their abilities. i.e. Nightcrawler card grants teleportation, invisible woman one grants invisibility, etc. This mode is day 1 free DLC and is playable online and offline. You can collect cards by playing offline. Cards equipped are visible in the lobby, no idea if you can see them in the HUD.

Seperate mode: Play as Galactus in arcade-mode style stages. At least I think it's a seperate mode.

dankir said:
Ummm when do we see the CG intro??
I are F5ing CapcomEuro youtube.

akilshohen said:
Would probably sell more than SFIV with the backing of the WB also. All that gore in 3D? Hell, you could look at it as skull girls with a bigger budget.
I'm pretty sure the MK brand is what sells MK games, not WB or NRS being behind them. DS without proper marketing/broken online like MvC3 or MK would fail miserably in the market today.

BTW do you see any media uploaded to Capcom's press site yet or no?
 
ThoughtsOfSpeaking said:
No, we were talking about, you thinking the western developed DmC could mean more money for fighter. I was countering that a Succesful Western developed DmC is one step closer to a western developed Capcom fighter. I pointed out that people aren't as attached to the original designs of characters as they think or Alt costumes wouldn't have proved as succesful as they have in SF4.
It's not one step closer because it is not going to happen. Almost all of the American studios that make fighters focus specifically on 3D fighters as opposed to 2D fighters. Capcom is not interested in whoring out their distinctly Japanese franchises when SFIV has already sold about 5 million copies between all versions. Hell, MvC3 has already outsold every copy of MvC1 and MvC2 combined. If UMvC3 is a success I don't see why they would outsource it with the kind of growth they are experiencing.

You are also moving the goalpoast too. You went from talking about them outsourcing characters to talking about DLC costumes. What is that all about?
ThoughtsOfSpeaking said:
So. Explain. DmC.
DMC as a franchise is not distinctly Japanese the way that their fighting games are. DMC is also in a genre that is by default much more influenced by Western taste and game design than fighting games.

It is as simple as that.
akilshohen said:
RE is basically a pillar of the company at this point, you think more experimentation would happen if it failed? (can't lie, I don't think Raccoon City will be too hot.)
I think they've experimented enough to be honest. RE5 was a major seller and it doesn't look like that will change any time soon. I'd say that RE already bit the bullet, but it turned out a lot better than DmC is looking right now.
 
Seth also described the faction system a bit akin to Chromehounds with persistent battles that would get decided on a weekly basis. Could have misinterpreted it though.
 
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