UMVC3: Phoenix Wright and Nova Revealed!

SolarPowered said:
What is your problem with Ammy?

Trying her out against casual friends, I have MarlinPie syndrome. Can't defend myself properly. Trying to figure out which weapon to use against which character is rather difficult too.

Of course, since I'm really not that great, I try to learn the characters through their missions as well....and Amaterasu's weapon changing mid-combo ones are killing me!
 
LeMaximilian said:
This is officially the most interesting thread on gaf with these images now.

Negative :<
GIVE US A TIME AND DATE ON THE NEXT ASSIST ME DAMNIT.

By the way your latest breakdown was posted on Kotaku.

SolarPowered said:
Cold shots being buffed means that she is more or less in the same area as before(maybe slightly nerfed). Morrigan and Hsien-Ko are absolute shit right now unless something is done(Morrigan gets her old ground dash and Hsien-Ko gets pendulum cancels).
The assist or the move? Because with the hitstun applying to assists now, Cold Star is nerfed, MarlinPie is dropping Ammy in UMvC3. Can't combo out of it anymore.

AzureJericho said:
Didn't he also beat MarlinPie? Or was it Quotes?

Either way, impressive track record there GAF|smurfx. :P
I think he beat both.
 
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AzureJericho said:
Edit: I wanna run a Strider team, but nothing's coming to mind to go with him. It's the same situation with Ammy, Zero & Viper :lol

Hell, you can pretty much throw her on any and every team, she goes with pretty much everything one way or another.
 
AnkiRendan said:
Trying her out against casual friends, I have MarlinPie syndrome. Can't defend myself properly. Trying to figure out which weapon to use against which character is rather difficult too.

When in doubt just use reflector. I'm conviced that glaive is pretty much better overall, but reflector is still really good too. Not to mention the HHHHH. Oh, and reflector counter>Wolvie's dive kick I believe =P

Don't worry about weapon change combos, hell, I've mained her since the game came out and I don't really use them anymore.
 
SolarKnight said:
Hell, you can pretty much throw her on any and every team, she goes with pretty much everything one way or another.

I saw as much and considered using her over Morrigan on the main team at one point. Character loyalties trump all though. :P

Strider/Ammy looks awesome with Cold Star assist though...
 
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None of the new characters except Phoenix Wright really stick out to me so I'd like to try and make this team work better in Ultimate. No more relying on Deadpool assist for Chun OTGs, hopefully!
 
Wishful Thinking:

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Original MVC3 Team:

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Marvel Team:

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In all honestly I doubt any of these teams will last the first week of training mode. I wouldn't be surprised if my team turns out to be Dr. Strange/Trish/Chris
 
SolarKnight said:
When in doubt just use reflector. I'm conviced that glaive is pretty much better overall, but reflector is still really good too. Not to mention the HHHHH. Oh, and reflector counter>Wolvie's dive kick I believe =P

Don't worry about weapon change combos, hell, I've mained her since the game came out and I don't really use them anymore.

Alright, that sounds good! I'll be sure to work on that, then. Thanks a lot!
 
QisTopTier said:
You know I know that people hate on arthur all day, but doesn't the airdash nerf make his range game actually viable?

I would think so. Didn't he get a couple of buffs in this edition? He's probably going to keep those without teleports a little bit more honest with the air dash nerf.
 
Hmmm i might have to get arthur another chance in umvc3...

I played with arthur a few days ago with a friend and....kinda liked him *hides from dahbomb*
 
QisTopTier said:
You know I know that people hate on arthur all day, but doesn't the airdash nerf make his range game actually viable?
I never considered this.

Arthur may just be a problem, especially with that massive lance or whatever he tosses in a circle that takes up like 50% of the screen. I don't think people have quite digested how big the airdash change is quite yet. It's a game changer. He'll still be free to teleport characters.

I just hope the pendulum hasn't swung so hard in the direction of zoning that the metagame centers around that, because the relentless rushdown is what makes Marvel hype, and something we're used to the metagame devolving into. It's far too early to tell, but I am the slightest bit scared of it.
 
I haven't decide with my main team yet. :(

I am thinking about this team lately.

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I was busy with something for last few hours and it went crazy and insane with banners. Dammit!
 
Professor Beef said:
I had no idea this would happen when I did it.
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You don't have a full 14 hours without posts in MahvelGAF one day and not expect a storm the next.

Stoked for costumes tomorrow ^_^
 
Becquerel said:
I wonder if Cap'll keep his Punisher outfit.

Speaking of, I'm surprised at that one Cap outfit that had the medieval-styled shield.


Makes me sad that the real Punisher inst in the game :(
 
Becquerel said:
I'm glad he isn't.
I hate the Punisher, he's a really terrible character. And usually he's written badly too. Rather have boulder punching soldiers.

Something something opinions. Something. Punisher, Gambit and Baron Zemo are probably my 3 favorites of the Marvel universe.
 
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Possible team for UMvC3...
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Troll team...
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enzo_gt said:
The assist or the move? Because with the hitstun applying to assists now, Cold Star is nerfed, MarlinPie is dropping Ammy in UMvC3. Can't combo out of it anymore.
Wait wat

You are telling me that you can't even get short combos out of cold star assist anymore? I need confirmation, citations and a bottle of the strongest liquor available...
AnkiRendan said:
Trying her out against casual friends, I have MarlinPie syndrome. Can't defend myself properly. Trying to figure out which weapon to use against which character is rather difficult too.

Of course, since I'm really not that great, I try to learn the characters through their missions as well....and Amaterasu's weapon changing mid-combo ones are killing me!
Stop trying to complicate things lol. I manage to go toe to toe with great players and I rarely if ever use weapon change combos. The key thing to remember is that her glaive and sword stances work against nearly every character in the game.

The important thing to keep in mind with her is that you have to have restraint when you are getting in on your opponent. A single whiffed move or counter super means she is pretty much dead. Bait your opponent with aerial reflector H, df.H glaive+qcf.L and keep them confused on your next move. Ammy's hitbox, light fast normals and sick range makes people sweat more than they have to.

I may write up a little more to help out.
 
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I'll make another team that includes Vergil, at least. This is why I'd love more team slots in UMvC3... It's so much fun making new teams.
 
Not to sure about synergy but this is my day one team. Subject to change depending on RR.

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This team has worked well for me. Dante and Doom great assist for Dormy.
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SolarPowered said:
Wait wat

You are telling me that you can't even get short combos out of cold star assist anymore? I need confirmation, citations and a bottle of the strongest liquor available...
Nah, combo starters should be fine for most combos - it just makes using it mid-combo like MarlinPie does a lot harder since hitstun scaling kicks in. It's a universal nerf to all assist related combos.

Although, I don't really know how much hitsun scaling Cold Star causes. You never really see it used as a combo-starter, or even mid-combo really outside of the assist, so it might not even cause that much scaling. For all we know, MarlinPie's combos are still workable with the assist.
 
Becquerel said:
I'm glad he isn't.
I hate the Punisher, he's a really terrible character. And usually he's written badly too. Rather have boulder punching soldiers.

I disagree with him being a terrible character but he is written poorly. Honestly the Armory was the only good line of Punisher comics. I hated the goofy nature of the Marvel Knights series and the Max line was too focused on the gore and not the character as it wore on.

That said he should still be in the game.
 
SolarPowered said:
Wait wat

You are telling me that you can't even get short combos out of cold star assist anymore? I need confirmation, citations and a bottle of the strongest liquor available...
MarlinPie mentioned it on the Curleh Moustache Stream, and that he'll probably drop her and Mags for PW or Strange or the third he was looking at was Nova I think.

Frantic said:
Nah, combo starters should be fine for most combos - it just makes using it mid-combo like MarlinPie does a lot harder since hitstun scaling kicks in. It's a universal nerf to all assist related combos.

Although, I don't really know how much hitsun scaling Cold Star causes. You never really see it used as a combo-starter, or even mid-combo really outside of the assist, so it might not even cause that much scaling. For all we know, MarlinPie's combos are still workable with the assist.
No Marlin said it doesn't work anymore as a combo starter, they drop out of it and can block out of it before Viper can get in.
 
I only use her cold stars assist for specific combos and mine are extremely short. I think I'll be fine...

*rubs forehead*
IntelliHeath said:
Well, Fox and Marvel are working over Punisher tv show, so I wouldn't be surprise if they are pushing for him in UMVC3:AE

http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/10/20/punisher-fox-comic-book-adaptation/


Edited: Black Panther rumored to get his own movie in future as well.
Punisher would be pretty redundant when we already have tons of weapon experts that use shotguns, grenades, explosives, machine guns, magnums, pistols, laser weapons, etc...
 
SolarPowered said:
I only use her for specific combos and mine are extremely short. I think I'll be fine...

*rubs forehead*

Punisher would be pretty redundant when we already have tons of weapon experts that use shotguns, grenades, explosives, machine guns, magnums, pistols, etc...


None of those experts killed the marvel universe. Frank did.
 
Yea, as said, I rather have Chris than Punisher. That's my own bias, though.
There's no need for Punisher to be included - Chris getting a Punisher alt would be gdlk, nevertheless.

Speaking of additional characters.
MarvelGAF. Last night, I had a dream. I dreamt that Silver Surfer was going to be in the game. And the way they'd implement him was having his board face sideways (i.e. with the tip pointing towards the viewer).


Grecco said:
None of those experts killed the marvel universe. Frank did.

That was a "What if--?" scenario, though. :P
Also, Chris DID punch a boulder.
 
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