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[Triple Da G.O.D!]

That'd still require Capcom to renew the license. And at that point, they'd might as well do something major with the license like remaster UMvC3 for the PS4 or do Marvel 4.

As for Swagneto, the alt was made years after House of M & the Spanish were still salty.

In that instance, you could still do all of that and then some under a new license contract.

Remaster UMvC3 in that instance however? Trying to unify most of the games on one system would be a great thing for the community this I understand. This would also require Sony to foot the bill for another port and I'm just not seeing that happen after what happened with USF4 and you really think Capcom in its current state would waste resources on this? What happens to MS in this equation? Do they get a port too? Would MS even pay for one? More questions.

Marvel 4 isn't happening for a least a couple of years even if Capcom could get the license right this second. Marvel's in the middle of pushing this latest slate of movies and sweeping things under rugs and everything that the VS Series is clashes with that. When they've done all the work to make you love the heroes they want you to and they can profit off of then and only then will Marvel even consider that a request they even sit down and even hear of.

The other factor to consider in the case of Marvel 4 is Clash of Champions. That's a fighting game that makes Marvel money hand over fist last I heard and they're free to control the message that game sends out and I don't think they're giving up what that game brings them so the streets gets a game that doesn't agree with Marvel's current messaging at this point in time.

I understand that lucrative licensing contracts like that aren't cheap but having MS & Sony relist the content and getting it on BC for XBONE has to be cheaper and a lot easier than a port of a game to next-gen that nobody involved will pay for to make happen or a game Marvel won't let happen in this current climate because of the clash with their current message and a game I'm unsure Capcom could even afford to make at the moment.

With both Ultimate Alliance games getting relisted and Deadpool getting relisted and ported then it can happen if those with the power wish to make it so and see some profitability in doing so.

Do the Shuma/Jill codes from the OG Mv3 SE still work on XBL or PSN?

The website that turn those codes into codes you could use no longer exists. If you could find somebody with a XBL/PSN code then those should still work though.

All games should be preserved.
Case in point: Warzard/Red Earth.

Yes.

If UMvC3 came to PC I would mod the shit out of it.

So will it be The Dark Queen, Joanna Dark, Nicole-458 or Vela coming to Season 3? Streets wanna know! At least I do anyway.

 

[Drilbit777]

The license is pretty much the reason why this game will never make it to PC outside of emulation. Hopefully someday someone is able to rebalance the game with the 360 emulation kinda like with brawl and project M.

 

[dragonyeuw]

Marvel 4 isn't happening for a least a couple of years even if Capcom could get the license right this second. Marvel's in the middle of pushing this latest slate of movies and sweeping things under rugs and everything that the VS Series is clashes with that. When they've done all the work to make you love the heroes they want you to and they can profit off of then and only then will Marvel even consider that a request they even sit down and even hear of.

Can you elaborate on this? Clash in what sense?

 

[SpiceMelange]

Can you elaborate on this? Clash in what sense?

Marvel want you to care about the characters from the movies, and forget about the characters owned by Fox

 

[DedValve]

Wont happen for right reasons.

You mean it won't happen for the

Spoiler

copy

right reasons?


Still play this on my vita. Part of me hopes its BC with the XB1 but I know it won't happen so I'm sad

 

[papo]

I remember wanting MvsC3 so so bad and when it was announced I was so pumped, then it released and I don't know why I didn't play it for that much. I don't know if it was bad or what was it, but it wasn't as good as 2. I also didn't like the art style.

 

[Triple Da G.O.D!]

Can you elaborate on this? Clash in what sense?

Marvel want you to care about the characters from the movies, and forget about the characters owned by Fox

^^^^

That! A whole lot of that!

You think you want this now because it sounds nice.

Maybe in 4 to 5 years when everything's settled down a bit on all sides then maybe we can get a game that's deserving and worthy of the name Marvel vs Capcom 4!

 

[dragonyeuw]

Marvel want you to care about the characters from the movies, and forget about the characters owned by Fox

^^^^

That! A whole lot of that!

You think you want this now because it sounds nice.

Maybe in 4 to 5 years when everything's settled down a bit on all sides then maybe we can get a game that's deserving and worthy of the name Marvel vs Capcom 4!

Then the logical solution would be( as much as it would suck, but it is what it is) make a 4th game without those characters, and use the movie characters appearance if they want to keep things consistent with MCU. Bear in mind that Disney/Marvel also has Infinity Marvel, and a number of characters are based on the ultimate cartoon series and not their MCU look. So I don't see many stumbling blocks to a 4th game *provided* someone like Sony wants to work with Capcom to get it off the ground, using the MCU as a baseline for the characters they want to appear in-game.

 

[drotahorror]

Time to move on and hopefully capcom makes another Vs game like Capcom Vs Sony now that they are working together or Street fighter Vs Capcom etc.

Street Fighter vs Darkstalkers I agree.

 

[Mookie1515]

Great game, great cast, I just preferred the depth and stupid brokenness of UMvC3 much more.

I'd love to see a TvC2 someday.

All those rumors around the team trying to get a Samurai Pizza Cat in the first game really makes me want a second. Never gonna happen, but a man can dream.

 

[The Elite]

I remember wanting MvsC3 so so bad and when it was announced I was so pumped, then it released and I don't know why I didn't play it for that much. I don't know if it was bad or what was it, but it wasn't as good as 2. I also didn't like the art style.

I always found it to be a bit too dark. The previous entries had a more vibrant colour palette.

 

[petran79]

Arcade Marvel 2 can be emulated?

It can by using Demul emulator. There is also a netplay plugin for p2p

 

[DedValve]

^^^^

That! A whole lot of that!

You think you want this now because it sounds nice.

Maybe in 4 to 5 years when everything's settled down a bit on all sides then maybe we can get a game that's deserving and worthy of the name Marvel vs Capcom 4!

Short of the whole MCU bombing and not pulling in any more money or fox hadning over the xmen to marvel this isn't going to die down. Marvel already plans to keep going with the MCU forever and ever...

 

[Wheresmycoffee]

I remember reading awhile back that Capcom originally wanted to make a PC port of Marvel 3, but Marvel didn't want to in fear of the rampant mods on PC games. (See nude SF4 mods)

I think it would be easier to get a PSVITA emulator working on PC to enjoy Marvel 3.

 

[Crimsonclaw111]

I remember reading awhile back that Capcom originally wanted to make a PC port of Marvel 3, but Marvel didn't want to in fear of the rampant mods on PC games. (See nude SF4 mods)

I think it would be easier to get a PSVITA emulator working on PC to enjoy Marvel 3.

A shame, if a mediocre fighting game with DC characters can do well on PC then MvC should've done really well.

 

[dragonzdogma]

I don't have a PS3
BUT! I have a psvita TV (or whatever is called)
will it work!? And also how different is it from the ps3 version?

 

[Triple Da G.O.D!]

Then the logical solution would be( as much as it would suck, but it is what it is) make a 4th game without those characters, and use the movie characters appearance if they want to keep things consistent with MCU. Bear in mind that Disney/Marvel also has Infinity Marvel, and a number of characters are based on the ultimate cartoon series and not their MCU look. So I don't see many stumbling blocks to a 4th game *provided* someone like Sony wants to work with Capcom to get it off the ground, using the MCU as a baseline for the characters they want to appear in-game.

Here's the thing with this logic...Marvel doesn't care about it.

At this juncture Marvel's like "You'll play Contest of Champions and like it."

If Marvel wanted Marvel 4 as a marketing tool then you'd get it. Hell, it would be coming out right around Civil War if Marvel wanted it that way. However, Marvel is in no need of said marketing tool at the moment so you'll wait until that's what they want. At a minimum you'll be waiting until 2017-18 at the earliest for somebody at Marvel to even consider this a thing to even consider.

What does Capcom care or even stand to gain on using resources on this? This isn't Monster Hunter or Resident Evil we're speaking of here. The only reason there's a Street Fighter coming out next week is because Sony's footing the bill so Dimps can't make The Rumble Fish 3. Niitsuma's working on something not Marvel 4 and Eighting's collecting easy money improving Battride War every year. So who's gonna make it?

Nobody thinking of throwing money at this gains nothing other than some goodwill which doesn't translate to profits for anybody involved. You couldn't show Marvel numbers at this point that would show them this would matter enough to deviate from their current course.

End of the day, the streets will get their Marvel 4. When Marvel's good and ready for you to have it. The earliest this may become a reality is when things start ramping up for Infinity War Part 1 and that's sometime next year and this is me jumping on the fantasy bandwagon. Realistically speaking, 2019 when it's time to sell the Inhumans to the world is when this could become a thing and even then who knows where Marvel will be in that line of thinking when it happens.

Short of the whole MCU bombing and not pulling in any more money or fox hadning over the xmen to marvel this isn't going to die down. Marvel already plans to keep going with the MCU forever and ever...

After what's happened with Spider-Man in the movies is maybe those 2 parties can find a way to play nice with all their toys for some Phase 4 stuff. 4 years is a long time.

 

[erlim]

I feel like Disney Interactive is really fan friendly. I mean we have Super Star Wars on PS4, they remade Ducktales from Nintendo last gen. I wouldn't be surprised if we got psn and xbla ports of the 90s beat-em-ups from Konami, Sega, and Capcom. It's like free money for a rom dump. Marvel still release old x-men runs in graphic novel forms. I mean if anything they are showing more of a tendency to re-license games (like deadpool and spider-man) than they do making non-Lego games and mobile games on the marvel side.

 

[Neoxon]

^^^^

That! A whole lot of that!

You think you want this now because it sounds nice.

Maybe in 4 to 5 years when everything's settled down a bit on all sides then maybe we can get a game that's deserving and worthy of the name Marvel vs Capcom 4!

I honestly would be okay with MvC4 in the near future at the cost of the X-Men & the Fantastic Four characters. The problem is that most of the FGC would't agree with me (& understandably so). I do agree that it'll take around 4-5 years (at best) for the whole Marvel-Fox blood feud to blow over. I guess there's no use worrying about it too much now since Capcom doesn't seem to be in a hurry to renew the Marvel license.

 

[CrispyBoar]

We need Capcom vs Toei. They have the rights to DBZ, Sailor Moon, Digimon.

Yes, how I would like that.

 

[Dame]

Can anyone please explain why exactly Marvel, now a subsidiary of Disney, simply does not want to renew their contract with capcom?

Also, since spiderman as a movie IP is owned by Sony, is Sony somehow barring them from releasing a port as well? All of this is so lost on me.

Edit:

In short, I would't expect anything MvC from Capcom in the near future unless SFV is a hit.

Why must Chris Pratt crush my Mahvel dreams by telling me the truth.
Thank you very much though.

Spoiler

How dare you?

 

[Neoxon]

Can anyone please explain why exactly Marvel, now a subsidiary of Disney, simply does not want to renew their contract with capcom?

Also, since spiderman as a movie IP is owned by Sony, is Sony somehow barring them from releasing a port as well? All of this is so lost on me.

Licenses typically have to be renewed by the developer. Take Gazillion, the developers for the Marvel Heroes MMO, for example. Their current contract with Marvel expires in 2019, when they either have to let the contract lapse or renew it for god-knows-how-much money. In the case of Capcom, they likely didn't see it as profitable to renew their Marvel license, so they just let it lapse. In theory, Capcom could get the license back. But (as stated before) given that Capcom's still recovering from their previous financial woes, it's likely that Capcom is a bit more conservative with their money as of late. In short, I would't expect anything MvC from Capcom in the near future unless SFV is a hit.

 

[Tizoc]

Although I like(d) Mahvel 3 and agree it should be preserved, the game's been on life support for so long and now the time has come to pull the trigger and let it rest in peace

The king is coming

 

[Sephiroth_VII]

emulation

Exactly. I don't get this whole "a game isn't preserved if it's console exclusive." Haven't you people heard about emulation?

 

[Neoxon]

Although I like(d) Mahvel 3 and agree it should be preserved, the game's been on life support for so long and now the time has come to pull the trigger and let it rest in peace

The king is coming

Isn't Melty Blood in a Skullgirls situation in terms of acceptance within the FGC? Barring another EVO donation drive for a slot like how Melee gained acceptance, I'm not sure if Melty Blood will ever make it big.

 

[Triple Da G.O.D!]

The king is coming

The Queendom been good since 2011. What is this you speak of?

Spoiler

Yes, I know the masses won't have to buy an expensive Blu-Ray to get it now.

Isn't Melty Blood in a Skullgirls situation in terms of acceptance within the FGC? Barring another EVO donation drive for a slot like how Melee gained acceptance, I'm not sure if Melty Blood will ever make it big.

How Melty led off the finals in 2010 and how Melee stayed there and makes money on that same stage are 2 different things. Not fair to compare the two.

This port won't make a real difference. Those who love Melty get a way to have it in their Steam libraries. New people will try it and drop it in a week. Finals for tournaments being played in bathrooms. Never change, Melty Blood. Never change.

 

[dragonyeuw]

What does Capcom care or even stand to gain on using resources on this? This isn't Monster Hunter or Resident Evil we're speaking of here. The only reason there's a Street Fighter coming out next week is because Sony's footing the bill so Dimps can't make The Rumble Fish 3. Niitsuma's working on something not Marvel 4 and Eighting's collecting easy money improving Battride War every year. So who's gonna make it?

Nobody thinking of throwing money at this gains nothing other than some goodwill which doesn't translate to profits for anybody involved. You couldn't show Marvel numbers at this point that would show them this would matter enough to deviate from their current course.

And as I said several posts ago including the post you quoted, quite clearly, that I would not expect a Marvel Capcom 4 unless it is partially/fully funded like the Sony/SFV deal. So I'm not sure as to the reason for the dissertation. I'm quite aware of the factors needed to bring a possible 4th game to the market.

 

[Triple Da G.O.D!]

And as I said several posts ago including the post you quoted, quite clearly, that I would not expect a Marvel Capcom 4 unless it is partially/fully funded like the Sony/SFV deal. So I'm not sure as to the reason for the dissertation. I'm quite aware of the factors needed to bring a possible 4th game to the market.

I like dissertations.

No amount of money from any source gets anybody Marvel 4 until Marvel's ready.

Capcom can't do it right now even if they wanted to.

That seems to be about that.

Get at me in 2019-20 when there's some actual hope for this.

 

[A.E Suggs]

I agree TC.

 

[dragonyeuw]

I like dissertations.

No amount of money from any source gets anybody Marvel 4 until Marvel's ready.

Capcom can't do it right now even if they wanted to.

That seems to be about that.

Get at me in 2019-20 when there's some actual hope for this.

OK, but what is being argued? I never specified any time frame for the game to come out. Obviously it wouldn't come out anytime soon. I only said the possibility of the game existing at all is likely dependent on an outside force funding it. So there really isn't a difference of opinion here, believe it or not.

 

[Triple Da G.O.D!]

OK, but what is being argued? I never said the game was coming out this year, or next. I only said the possibility of the game existing at all is likely dependent on an outside force funding it. So there really isn't a difference of opinion here, believe it or not.

Nothing's being argued.

I'm just making sure that I'm making the point of that there are more extenuating factors outside of somebody nice enough to pay for it and all of it has to come together for it to work.

 

[Weltall Zero]

Agreed on the sentiment that Capcom could very well do a Capcom-exclusive fighter. However, they seem to be somewhat tone-deaf regarding what fans want, see SFxT's bad box art Megaman vs Smash' incredible representation of Megaman.

The best thing about UMVC3 coming to PC (impossible as that is) would be replacing/removing that comic-book shader. It always looked awkward and unconvincingly in-between realistic and cel-shaded to me, and particularly made characters look like they were from a different game than the backgrounds. UMVC3 looking like SFIV is all I want, dammit.

 

[dragonyeuw]

Nothing's being argued.

I'm just making sure that I'm making the point of that there are more extenuating factors outside of somebody nice enough to pay for it and all of it has to come together for it to work.

Ok fair enough, you went to great lengths to make that point as if it was being argued. All the marvel-related stuff may very well be true, but if someone doesn't step in with funding it's moot anyway, because I don't see Capcom funding it if they weren't even in position to fund something like a new Street Fighter game. But anyways, all good...

 

[Triple Da G.O.D!]

Ok fair enough, you went to great lengths to make that point as if it was being argued. All the marvel-related stuff may very well be true, but if someone doesn't step in with funding it's moot anyway, because I don't see Capcom funding it if they weren't even in position to fund something like a new Street Fighter game. But anyways, all good...

There are no such things as great lengths when you've accomplished your goal.

And long form writing practice never hurt a soul.

End of the day, we all want the same thing.

More games for us to enjoy!

You never know, Disney could see it and make it all work. The possibilities.

 

[Lothars]

Agreed on the sentiment that Capcom could very well do a Capcom-exclusive fighter. However, they seem to be somewhat tone-deaf regarding what fans want, see SFxT's bad box art Megaman vs Smash' incredible representation of Megaman.

The best thing about UMVC3 coming to PC (impossible as that is) would be replacing/removing that comic-book shader. It always looked awkward and unconvincingly in-between realistic and cel-shaded to me, and particularly made characters look like they were from a different game than the backgrounds. UMVC3 looking like SFIV is all I want, dammit.

I loved the Megaman look from SFxTekken, It was a cool implementation of the character just as the smash one is.

 

[SpiceMelange]

I loved the Megaman look from SFxTekken, It was a cool implementation of the character just as the smash one is.

On context, back in 2012, it was a slap in the face as people wanted megaman in TvC, MvC3, UMvC3, and then they finally listened, with this...

 

[dragonyeuw]

There are no such things as great lengths when you've accomplished your goal.

And long form writing practice never hurt a soul.

End of the day, we all want the same thing.

More games for us to enjoy!

You never know, Disney could see it and make it all work. The possibilities.

What was your goal here then, since in principle we're on the same page?

 

[Rynocirator]

On context, back in 2012, it was a slap in the face as people wanted megaman in TvC, MvC3, UMvC3, and then they finally listened, with this...

But Volnutt was in TvC

 

[Neoxon]

On context, back in 2012, it was a slap in the face as people wanted megaman in TvC, MvC3, UMvC3, and then they finally listened, with this...

But the joke was a victim of bad timing (Kenji signed off on BBA Mega Man before he left).

 

[Justinh]

Grab yourself a retail copy and hold on really tight.

Yeah, I should probably do this. I only have the digital copy and the Special Edition of vanilla physical. Remember how MvC2 was going for crazy prices for a while? I'm afraid that if I ever wanted to play this in the future, it'd be all crazy expensive.

 

[Triple Da G.O.D!]

What was your goal here then, since in principle we're on the same page?

We have a better understanding of each other when it comes to this very subject. Something we didn't before and so will others reading this after the fact.

 

[Neoxon]

Can anyone please explain why exactly Marvel, now a subsidiary of Disney, simply does not want to renew their contract with capcom?

Also, since spiderman as a movie IP is owned by Sony, is Sony somehow barring them from releasing a port as well? All of this is so lost on me.

• Marvel has full control of Spidey outside of movies.
• Marvel controls all X-Men & F4 stuff outside of the movies if based on their comic book (or MCU for the Maximoffs) versions. Marvel just made their own decision to ban them from all future games.

 

[PhilipDoesMatter]

Man you hit the spot. UMvC3 is so much fun. It's perhaps the game that I was most hyped for when it came out. Save it Disney!

 

[Zee-Row]

What are the chance of Capcom vs SNK ever happening again?

 

[dragonyeuw]

We have a better understanding of each other when it comes to this very subject. Something we didn't before and so will others reading this after the fact.

Alrighty then, fair enough...

 

[dragonyeuw]

What are the chance of Capcom vs SNK ever happening again?

Ohhh I'd love that. It just doesnt seem like Capcom is too keen on greenlighting anything that isnt Monster Hunter or Resident Evil. What is the state of SNK nowadays anyway?

 

[Neoxon]

Ohhh I'd love that. It just doesnt seem like Capcom is too keen on greenlighting anything that isnt Monster Hunter or Resident Evil. What is the state of SNK nowadays anyway?

SNK is getting back into the video game business with KoFXIV due to changes in the Pachinko industry. But like with MvC, I doubt that Capcom will pursue any other fighting games in the near future unless Street Fighter V is a hit.