Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
Do not fucking tell me I am wrong... why don't you address one of my points in a way that demonstrates I am wrong.
That might actually be constructive.
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Uncharted 3 |OT| All Developers Dream, But Not Equally
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Do not fucking tell me I am wrong... why don't you address one of my points in a way that demonstrates I am wrong.
That might actually be constructive.
There isn't "infinite respawning" akin to CoD as far as I know. I tackled that level two very different ways and faced the exact same enemies. What Uncharted has, are spawn triggers which forces you to go to a certain point to spawn the next wave of enemies. And this has been a problem since Uncharted 1, but has improved as you don't have to go to places that lack cover to hit the trigger.
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
Based on my experience playing the level the first time, and not having any idea where I was "supposed" to go, I can say with some degree of confidence that the enemies do keep coming until you progress to the top of the level...
I'd be pretty surprised to learn otherwise. Though, if true, I would admit to being wrong. I just don't think I am.
I'd be pretty surprised to learn otherwise. Though, if true, I would admit to being wrong. I just don't think I am.
Infinite spawns what?? I just beat the game on crushing and I played that whole section completely different this time. I flanked left and used the grenade launcher to great effect. You can absolutely approach that level from a myriad of ways
No, definitely not. I've played that level a few times, clearing out everything at see level, then climbing up to the turret where a few more spawn (there's a hammer up the to use against them, in addition to the turret) and then all done.
There's definitely no infinite spawing. I remember clearing everything out, then searching for treasures.
LowEndTorque
Member
Like I already said, I've tackled the level in several drastically different ways, as have other posters. That's all the evidence I need to prove that your statement about there being only one way to get through the level is false. Now, about your assertion that enemies spawn "indefinitely"... I'll ask again: proven fact or assumption?
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
A couple of you guys posting are stand up gaffers... who are usually spot on about stuff.
Normally I'd just agree with you guys but I played that section and fought enemies forever... so I'm still skeptical of what you're saying. I don't mean to be stubborn, and certainly do not want to slight a dev for something they doen't even deserve (especially naughty dog!!!) but I played that shit guys!
Normally I'd just agree with you guys but I played that section and fought enemies forever... so I'm still skeptical of what you're saying. I don't mean to be stubborn, and certainly do not want to slight a dev for something they doen't even deserve (especially naughty dog!!!) but I played that shit guys!
Nappuccino
Member
The problem I had with the boat section is that, when I did try to buckle down and pick off a few guys, invariably one of the guys would rush me from behind and engage me in melee... which is damn hard to break out of.
So I'd be standing instead of behind cover, in front of like 10 guys all shooting me in the face.
Every.
Goddamn.
Time.
Also the alternate paths (like the far right) aren't obvious at all and I only found them after I'd already killed everyone there.
edit: I can attest to the fact that it isn't infinite respawn. I killed them all, wandered around lost for a good 20 min and then realized where I was supposed to go.
So I'd be standing instead of behind cover, in front of like 10 guys all shooting me in the face.
Every.
Goddamn.
Time.
Also the alternate paths (like the far right) aren't obvious at all and I only found them after I'd already killed everyone there.
edit: I can attest to the fact that it isn't infinite respawn. I killed them all, wandered around lost for a good 20 min and then realized where I was supposed to go.
I totally respect that the section was difficult and therefore frustrating for you but there is absolutely no infinites in any section of the game let alone that part. The frustration for people seems to be just not clearly perceiving how to tackle that section. Some of us immediately got it and relished in the playground before us and others thought it was convoluted. Just proves the universal truth. Ain't no pleasing everyone.
Exactly. I cleared everything out on two runs, from the left and from the right (the right is infinitely easier due to power weapons) and ran out of enemies until I hit the spawn trigger on top.
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
Well if enemies really can be cleared out before climbing up to the turrets, then that undermines the foundation of my argument and I admit to being wrong.
Though I have to say it's somewhat begrudgingly... having just recently played through that section.
I wish I had the game next to me, to see if I could reproduce my experience...
But I concede.
Though I have to say it's somewhat begrudgingly... having just recently played through that section.
I wish I had the game next to me, to see if I could reproduce my experience...
But I concede.
Lion Heart
Banned
I played it only once but I remember dying a bunch of times before taking out the last few enemies on top of the ships (what are those called?) and at higher ground. Once those guys died, they stopped spawning. I remember exploring the area before continuing to the trigger as well. However after a while (I took my sweet time) enemies spawned in 2's. It was pretty tame though with about a minute in between groups.
R_thanatos
Member
Infinite respawning is a fantasy in uncharted 3. i had doubts the first time i've played ..so the second time i played the levels i paid attention and i can confirm that infinite spawing is false..
There are specific actions that trigger more ennemies REGARDLESS of if the previous waves are cleared .that's all.
There are even some waves that only start once the previous one is fully cleared
i don't understand why people assume that because you cleared a room , ennemies can't appaear behind you.. in a game like uncharted where you can climb your way in various places , expecting ennemies to arrive even in place you don't expect is not a problem for me..
Uncharted 2 had at least one area with infinite spawning enemies.
Uncharted 3 has many areas that you can breeze through killing just a few guys if you go stealth; if you get detected then all hell breaks lose and you'll have to fight a lot of enemies (including one where you'll fail a checkpoint if you move forward with killing them; blergh). I didn't notice a single one with infinite waves of enemies.
The
section is one where you have several different ways of tackling it. It also happens that many of those ways are wrong, and you have no way of knowing them until you fail, as no one could possibly predict that the game would spawn a sponge bullet with a shotgun behind you just as you took control of that turret that seemed like such a good idea when you first saw it.
The game tries to blend the super powerful enemies of Uncharted 2 with the open arena/waves of enemies design of Uncharted 1. That combination doesn't work very well at all imo.
Uncharted 3 has many areas that you can breeze through killing just a few guys if you go stealth; if you get detected then all hell breaks lose and you'll have to fight a lot of enemies (including one where you'll fail a checkpoint if you move forward with killing them; blergh). I didn't notice a single one with infinite waves of enemies.
The
shipyard
The game tries to blend the super powerful enemies of Uncharted 2 with the open arena/waves of enemies design of Uncharted 1. That combination doesn't work very well at all imo.
Rewrite
Not as deep as he thinks
That is rage inducing! Don't lie to me! It happens to me in every game I play. Good job on the score, though!
I raise you this:
The match went into over time AND sudden death!
Hydrogen Bluebird
Member
Just started this game (finally). I haven't downloaded any patches yet but something feels off with my aiming, feels a little harder to get clean shots. Does the NeoGAF aim settings address this? What exactly is wrong in the 1st place?
Nappuccino
Member
There is a sticky aim when the reticule gets near a badguy- it slows your aim movement down.
Hydrogen Bluebird
Member
And the patch fixes that?
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
Yes. Just be sure to enable alternative aiming in the options menu.
Rewrite
Not as deep as he thinks
Yo ND, before you close up your forums please pay attention to this thread:
http://forums.naughtydog.com/t5/Mul...ation-to-be-since-the-summer-beta/td-p/706293
consider it, please!
http://forums.naughtydog.com/t5/Mul...ation-to-be-since-the-summer-beta/td-p/706293
consider it, please!
RyanardoDaVinci
Member
They'll consider it for about 2 seconds.
The only customization stuff I expect in the future is DLC for the stuff we can't use, just play Co-op and look at all the different items/colors the NPC's have. Also the stuff that should have been available from the start, like the suits and leather jackets for Marlowe's goons.
I agree. That was how I thought it would be. Lots of mixing and matching different clothes and stuff. Kind of a letdown how it turned out.
Nappuccino
Member
Mostly.
The sticky-ness is gone, but I find that smaller movements are still far too small compared to uc1 and 2. I never felt comfortable with uc3's controls whereas 1 and 2 felt great right away (and this is coming from a primarily pc gamer who's not used to controller shooters at all.)
Im sitting here at work and all i wanna go do is play more mp dammit. i think i probably played 8 hours or so yesterday. really gonna start working on beating all of the co-op crushings, both adventure and arenas. want that star. but we (my brother and i play co-op splitscreen, and tdm often too) need a good third. oh and i lagacied not too long ago (im 36 now) so i have to re-level some boosters. i wanna knock all that stuff out before i lagacy again. im hooked.
R_thanatos
Member
it's a good idea .. It is just that you have to take rocket launcher first ( below the turret )
You can also take ( stealth ) the grenade launcher to take care of it .
This guy probably spawn to prevent abuse of the turret..if you go prepared it's not that much of a treat
There's nothing to consider, the customization is the way it is, doubt it can be changed. It's disappointing yeah. Maybe for Uncharted 4.
Finally completed the game after playing in short bursts, have a quick review 
!
Visuals: Top notch... top of the line... unparallelled console-wise. Thing is amazing. The physics, the fire, the sand, characters, the goddamned textures. Really... damn.
Sound/Music: The standard Uncharted score, which is not bad. AT ALL. Very damn oood music. Repeated sounds from the past games. Amazing voice acting.
Gameplay: And this is where it all fucks up. Yes, amazing set pieces, some very damn good puzzles and just straight fun. But the gunplay is so... so weak. The enemy positioning, the enemy AI, its more like waves of bullet sponges who move around, each has 5 grenades, etc. So weak and at many points the game got frustrating. There were parts I died up to 8 times because of unfair enemy placement, etc. This is on normal, and as I've stated before I consider myself a very damn good gamer. So, yeah... game got to me a few times. The game also feels too short and the story disjointed. Marlowe was a bitch though. U3 bought nothing new to the table... NOTHING, and it felt unpolished in many spots. I am definitely disappointed.
Now don't misunderstand me, I liked the game a lot, but I'd rank it lower than U2 and maybe a little step above U1 if just for the sheer fun factor when it hits the strides. Overall, if I were to score U3, I'd give it a 7/10. This is one of those games I would usually have never paid $60 for but hey... who cares. On to the MP then.... let's see how I fare there!
!Visuals: Top notch... top of the line... unparallelled console-wise. Thing is amazing. The physics, the fire, the sand, characters, the goddamned textures. Really... damn.
Sound/Music: The standard Uncharted score, which is not bad. AT ALL. Very damn oood music. Repeated sounds from the past games. Amazing voice acting.
Gameplay: And this is where it all fucks up. Yes, amazing set pieces, some very damn good puzzles and just straight fun. But the gunplay is so... so weak. The enemy positioning, the enemy AI, its more like waves of bullet sponges who move around, each has 5 grenades, etc. So weak and at many points the game got frustrating. There were parts I died up to 8 times because of unfair enemy placement, etc. This is on normal, and as I've stated before I consider myself a very damn good gamer. So, yeah... game got to me a few times. The game also feels too short and the story disjointed. Marlowe was a bitch though. U3 bought nothing new to the table... NOTHING, and it felt unpolished in many spots. I am definitely disappointed.
Now don't misunderstand me, I liked the game a lot, but I'd rank it lower than U2 and maybe a little step above U1 if just for the sheer fun factor when it hits the strides. Overall, if I were to score U3, I'd give it a 7/10. This is one of those games I would usually have never paid $60 for but hey... who cares. On to the MP then.... let's see how I fare there
!Always-honest
Banned
It was too easy and the final level fealth really rushed. I'm betting the art director is not too happy with how this last level looks. Never mind the god awefull looking epilogue.
But i think as a whole this game is just incredible. Amazing.
Adding/ed.
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
Member
Whats this bullshit when matches get saved in the Cinema mode but don't let you edit or save them. I just had a really cool moment and I wanted to save the clip but no. This is happening a lot to me recently. I love and use the cinema mode a lot but its glitchy as hell.
Just got into
on my Crushing run. I'm surprised that I'm finding it a lot easier than I was expecting. There were some sections that I was absolutely dreading playing through on Crushing (
), but I actually beat each of them in about 3-5 tries. I have yet to reach any point that has made me frustrated, though iirc, some of the fights towards the end here may be a bitch. Still, it seems like I've been seeing a lot of complaints with the difficulty that I don't really relate to. Nothing in this game comes even close to the "looks like somebody should call a plumber," fight in Uncharted 1.
The city of Brass
ballroom in the boat and the airport
I was trying to figure out which area you were referring to, and it suddenly came to me. It was that bullshit Nepal area with the RPG, right? If you didn't move forward, you'd face wave after wave of enemy.
RedRedSuit
Member
Hmm, I'm drawing a blank. Which?
Right after you meet Chloe on the way to the hotel. "You've got a plan to go along with that grenade?". I distinctly remember an incredible amount of enemies when I hung back and fewer enemies when I charged forward. Of course, I could be wrong, but it is definitely the only area that I thought potentially had infinitely respawning enemies.
RedRedSuit
Member
Yeah, definitely not infinite there. I think there are about 4 waves coming from various directions.
RedRedSuit
Member
Ah yes,
Shambhala big room with humans and guardian
guardians
WrenchNinja
Member
First wave from the front and in the central building, second wave comes through a truck, third wave shows up at the back if you're at the truck. You can gun them down with the turret. That's what I remember.
RedRedSuit
Member
True. I remember that now. That level was fun but a bit all over the place. Still way more vertical than anything in 3.
Yup next time we will pass Monestary and continue from there. Good playing with you also.
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