R_thanatos
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I (think i have figured) how nd managed to do some od their things.
Replay thoser sections and you might not have those slowdowns
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Uncharted 3 |OT| All Developers Dream, But Not Equally
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I (think i have figured) how nd managed to do some od their things.
Replay thoser sections and you might not have those slowdowns
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
#92 Platinum Get!:
Crushing wasn't to bad, took 4 tries on the ship, 2 against super brawler and the heavy PKM-80, then 2 again in the battle inside of the ship
Worst chokepoint for me was inside ship hull, when Drake launches that grenade and lets water to flow in, took 10+ tries, had to get in a groove and work both sides, staying @ spot got me killed lol
Also the last fight was a pain at certain parts due to no prompt buttons shown, I was like triangle or circle, took a couple of tries to then I go "Oh Yeah!, right here you do such and such"
Crushing wasn't to bad, took 4 tries on the ship, 2 against super brawler and the heavy PKM-80, then 2 again in the battle inside of the ship
Worst chokepoint for me was inside ship hull, when Drake launches that grenade and lets water to flow in, took 10+ tries, had to get in a groove and work both sides, staying @ spot got me killed lol
Also the last fight was a pain at certain parts due to no prompt buttons shown, I was like triangle or circle, took a couple of tries to then I go "Oh Yeah!, right here you do such and such"
WHAT? Uncharted 2 has way more shooting than 3....its not even close. The last sections with the waves of enemies has probably way more shooting than the whole of 3.
Uncharted 2 may have had more shooting, but Uncharted 3 has worse shooting encounters by far. I made it to about Chapter...13? maybe, before I got pissed off and turned the difficulty down to easy and had way more fun after that. Too many rocket launchers/snipers and enemies that rush you down and take too many hits to die. when you've got a balcony with 3 snipers and a grenade launcher guy, along with normal enemies rushing at you, and a shotgun guy who forces you to move, it's not fun anymore. It's just frustrating and stupid.
I've never liked the combat in Uncharted games, I think it's pretty poor as a third person shooter. In 1 and 2 I was at least able to stomach it and have a good time without having to turn down the difficulty, in this game I found myself groaning every single time I came into a room that was designed to be a shooting encounter. That's a terrible thing and not a good sign for a game that is pretty much 90% shooting for the back half.
I've never liked the combat in Uncharted games, I think it's pretty poor as a third person shooter. In 1 and 2 I was at least able to stomach it and have a good time without having to turn down the difficulty, in this game I found myself groaning every single time I came into a room that was designed to be a shooting encounter. That's a terrible thing and not a good sign for a game that is pretty much 90% shooting for the back half.
The entire ending of 3 is also a constant enemy encounter. I dunno, I shouldn't have said "way more", but in 2 they had the climbing integrated a lot more with combat at the ending stretch and made it a lot more fun to go through, and had encounter designs I actually enjoyed. Climbing the monastary, shooting an rpg and making the tower crumble, sniping all the people coming over the rope; I loved stuff like that. In comparison, encounters in 3 just threw shit at you and nothing gameplaywise sticks out to me in the entire game, I only remember the three big setpieces, none of the actual fights stand out aside from the ballroom, the sandstorm, and the ending ones
with the ghost rider people
the stupid hold forward for 10 minutes trek through the desert, and the horse convoy which just felt like UC2 retreading to me
2 always mixed it up in fun ways. Stuff like the helicopter fight, train sequence, tank fight managed to break up the combat pacing even if these sections were also combat based. 2 also has things like the ice cavern which is pure platforming/puzzle lateish in the game, it had segments where you had a good time to catch your breath throughout. 3 does this all at the start, taking forever before you fire the first bullet, having all of the puzzles in the first half of the game, it just made the entire second half tire me out with nonstop shit happening that never managed to engage me like 2. So, me saying 3 has more shooting is more because 3 started to burn me out with its potentially less, but poorly paced and designed, shooting.
ProfessorMoran
Member
Not sure if the shooting is worse but it's definitely harder due to the reticle tweaks, enemies don't go down as easily as they did in U2. In U2 the player is able to move around more because enemies in general go down quicker.
in U1,U2 enemies stop shooting at you when your bullets hit them but in U3 they just continue shooting at you this makes shooting more frustrating
And the enemies rarely if ever flank. Uncharted 3 is harder....that's all their is to it.
#92 Platinum Get!:
Crushing wasn't to bad, took 4 tries on the ship, 2 against super brawler and the heavy PKM-80, then 2 again in the battle inside of the ship
Worst chokepoint for me was inside ship hull, when Drake launches that grenade and lets water to flow in, took 10+ tries, had to get in a groove and work both sides, staying @ spot got me killed lol
Also the last fight was a pain at certain parts due to no prompt buttons shown, I was like triangle or circle, took a couple of tries to then I go "Oh Yeah!, right here you do such and such"
There not being any button prompts at the end confused me too at the ending. I found that if you mash all the buttons at the same time, it's impossible to fail. That's how I managed to do it.
92? OMG!#92 Platinum Get!:
Crushing wasn't to bad, took 4 tries on the ship, 2 against super brawler and the heavy PKM-80, then 2 again in the battle inside of the ship
Worst chokepoint for me was inside ship hull, when Drake launches that grenade and lets water to flow in, took 10+ tries, had to get in a groove and work both sides, staying @ spot got me killed lol
Also the last fight was a pain at certain parts due to no prompt buttons shown, I was like triangle or circle, took a couple of tries to then I go "Oh Yeah!, right here you do such and such"
I might get it someday, only have a few treasure trophies to go get but I'm kinda tired of the game after 2 playthroughs. Which is a shame because it never happened with UC2, and with UC2 you had to play 3 times if you didn't play on hard the first time to unlock Crushing.
I think you should play the previous games too. There's a bundle with both available.
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
Good idea if you're liking what you're playing. It may not be necessary but at the same time you don't want to go backwards mechanics-wise.
And that's what I'm afraid of, it's always a pain to go backwards with the mechanics. Thanks guys!
R_thanatos
Member
Are there any issues with doing the chapters in a Crushing playthru out of order?
I know in Uncharted 2 I did the final chapter first to make sure the glitch for beating the final boss would work, but then I played the rest of the chapters on Crushing and didn't get the trophy. I had to beat the final chapter again to get it.
I know in Uncharted 2 I did the final chapter first to make sure the glitch for beating the final boss would work, but then I played the rest of the chapters on Crushing and didn't get the trophy. I had to beat the final chapter again to get it.
Sounds like overheating. Are the fans going crazy before it shuts down?
You best be careful because the YLOD could be on the horizon. Replacing the PS3 thermal paste might be able to solve your problems though:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu3QU8xWxI8
Unknown One
Member
It's definitely a shooter, the original game was a shooter primarily. You just travel to kill more people, the exploration and traversing is just intermission to more killings.
umm, U3 has way less shooting than 1+2. Uncharted has always been a shooter series. Once again people complain about how they wish the game was designed to be.
Sounds exactly like my experience. I turned down the difficulty at around Chapter 16. I got to Chapter 20 a few weeks ago, admitted to myself I was just not having any fun, and haven't played since.
It makes me sad since I was such a huge fan of Uncharted 2, but I really have no desire to finish 3.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Ugh these armored shotgun guys... I already turned down the difficulty once.
I'm considering just watching the rest of the story bits on Youtube. Which sucks since I really loved UC2. I got through that on Crushing with little to no problems. If there was a way to patch out the combat sequences I'd be all for that.
I'm considering just watching the rest of the story bits on Youtube. Which sucks since I really loved UC2. I got through that on Crushing with little to no problems. If there was a way to patch out the combat sequences I'd be all for that.
RedRedSuit
Member
That's a lot of fucks.
Someone needs to recalibrate their quality scale a bit and take a chill pill.
Net_Wrecker
Member
It's funny keeping up with this thread and reading a bunch of the same combat criticisms I had week 1. WHERE WERE YOU PEOPLE WHEN I NEEDED BACK UP?
Rewrite
Not as deep as he thinks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DskTwFyCyaE&feature=player_detailpage#t=196s
I completely forgot about this beautiful gem from ND.
:lol
I completely forgot about this beautiful gem from ND.
:lol
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Head Shot man
Any gun, always aim for their head, always burst fire, don't hold down R1 and waste a full clip, either you'll get recoil/kickback/hit chest
With Kal took me half a clip to remove the helmet, then a little more for the kill
This game was the easiest Uncharted to do in Crushing
I say UC2 > UC1 > UC3 as the ranking for crushing
I beat with-in 7.5 hours bypassing all cut-scenes, watched them the first time during Normal run and that was only 9.45 hours long
It's funny keeping up with this thread and reading a bunch of the same combat criticisms I had week 1. WHERE WERE YOU PEOPLE WHEN I NEEDED BACK UP?
Too much on my plate man, I'm sorry, as you can see I just got around playing close to 2 months after release
Sorry
perineumlick
Member
It's funny keeping up with this thread and reading a bunch of the same combat criticisms I had week 1. WHERE WERE YOU PEOPLE WHEN I NEEDED BACK UP?
Because people complaining about how hard the combat is are wusses. Now that they realize there are other wusses out there, they have the courage to speak out.
Net_Wrecker
Member
It's a good thing I never complained about the difficulty and only the lackluster combat design, enemy placement, and hit detection then. Phew, totally dodged being a wuss.
It's funny keeping up with this thread and reading a bunch of the same combat criticisms I had week 1. WHERE WERE YOU PEOPLE WHEN I NEEDED BACK UP?
Just got the game and finished it this week, or else I would have had your back!
perineumlick
Member
Well, not liking it is different. That's cool, but having to change the difficulty counts as being a wuss. I'm an old man and I was able to manage just fine, even with the borked controls.
Net_Wrecker
Member
Some people find ways to deal with and work the system, and others can't be bothered. If it was as well designed as Uncharted 2, maybe you'd have a point, but that isn't the case for this game IMO.
perineumlick
Member
Well, I guess we agree to disagree. I found nothing in U3's combat to be that much different than U2, aside from being more dynamic, and perhaps the enemy hit reactions. I felt less restricted space-wise, and the shipyard level is perhaps one of the best third person shooter levels in gaming imo. People are wusses, man. If you've played the other games, and finished them on Crushing, you should be ashamed if you found this one too hard to get through.
ProfessorMoran
Member
Headshots?
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
I know I need to use headshots, it's just really frustrating when there's also snipers going for the same thing on you.
Well I know the multiplayer will probably be decent. If it's anything like the betas were it won't be as good as UC2, but it'll be good enough.
Well I know the multiplayer will probably be decent. If it's anything like the betas were it won't be as good as UC2, but it'll be good enough.
perineumlick
Member
See, those are the posts that I'm talking about. They have to be bullshitting, right? You got through U2 with no problems, but can't handle this? Lol, I call bs; can't be serious.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Yeah, I got through UC2 on Crushing with no problems and had to turn the difficulty down on this. Is there some sort of problem here? Because that is exactly what happened with me. I have no reason to lie.
Nappuccino
Member
the aiming sensitivity was tweaked a lot in UC3. I personally never felt comfortable with it and, as such, headshots were much harder to come by.
perineumlick
Member
Are you using the alternate aim settings? If anything that makes the game too easy. I can't understand it myself; you say you're a vet at Uncharted games, but play on playa!
perineumlick
Member
Again, are you using alternate aim settings? It's not on by default, you have to go into options to turn it on.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Which are the fixed aim settings. Should it say on or off in the options.
perineumlick
Member
It should say alternate aim, and it should be off by default. Set it to on, and watch your whole outlook on the difficulty change.
sixteen-bit
Member
Yeah, the game is a slow starter, but before you know it you'll be in a jungle and it'll feel like Uncharted again.
R_thanatos
Member
i have to agree .. there is NOTHING in U3 that isn't in U2 at some point .. and complaining now that the aiming is fixed seems weird . Ennemy placement ? NOt really , checkpoint placement is a better problem bad ennemy placement will never kill you ( unless crushing ) in U3 .. however if you die during some sequence you will respawn in some bad positions
Sorry but saying (i'm bored ) after 15 minutes is downright stupid
15 minutes is barely the time to watch the intro and finish the brawl ( bored ? yeah right )
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
Playing through the game on Crushing just emphasizes for me how awfully these combat encounters were designed. I know there's been a lot of back and forth in this thread about whether or not enemies spawn behind you. I present to you the very first fight of Chapter 15.
You start behind cover. There are two guys in front of you, and a sniper on a far balcony. You take them out, and wait for the next wave. A riot shield guy comes at you from the same direction. You kill him, and wait. Suddenly you get shot in the back and die.
Restart checkpoint. Kill the guys in front of you. Kill riot shield guy. Make mad dash to other side of the room to take cover away from the guys spawning on a balcony behind your first spot. Take them all out. More guys drop down from that location. Take them all out. Suddenly you get shot from the left side where enemies are coming out of the woodwork. You die.
Restart checkpoint. Now that you have all the spawns memorized, you can finally beat the level.
And so it goes. This game is about memorizing spawns and figuring out what is the only path you can take to beat a level. The combat in this game is awful. Not the shooting mechanics themselves, but the combat design. Horrendous.
The multiplayer saves it, but just barely, considering Uncharted is mainly a single player franchise in my eyes.
You start behind cover. There are two guys in front of you, and a sniper on a far balcony. You take them out, and wait for the next wave. A riot shield guy comes at you from the same direction. You kill him, and wait. Suddenly you get shot in the back and die.
Restart checkpoint. Kill the guys in front of you. Kill riot shield guy. Make mad dash to other side of the room to take cover away from the guys spawning on a balcony behind your first spot. Take them all out. More guys drop down from that location. Take them all out. Suddenly you get shot from the left side where enemies are coming out of the woodwork. You die.
Restart checkpoint. Now that you have all the spawns memorized, you can finally beat the level.
And so it goes. This game is about memorizing spawns and figuring out what is the only path you can take to beat a level. The combat in this game is awful. Not the shooting mechanics themselves, but the combat design. Horrendous.
The multiplayer saves it, but just barely, considering Uncharted is mainly a single player franchise in my eyes.
perineumlick
Member
You've just described damn near every shooter I've played; memorizing spawns is a standard thing. That chapter is the only one in the entire game where enemies spawn behind you. I'm trying to understand why U3 is horrible, yet other shooters with the same scenario get a pass. Name another TPS, or any shooter for that matter, that doesn't require you to memorize where enemies spawn from when you die? Almost all shooters are trial and error; U3 doesn't own the market on that!
Net_Wrecker
Member
Uncharted 3 isn't horrible, it's just not as good as Uncharted 2 in terms of combat. Of course spawn memorization is a part of most shooters, but Uncharted 3 feels built AROUND that concept to the point that the game is worse for it. I never had that issue with Uncharted 2. Combine that with the overabundance of annoying enemies, the new "rush rush rush" AI patterns, and the almost non-existant hit reactions, and it's not hard to figure out why there's a group of people who aren't happy with U3.
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
Pretty much every other shooter doesn't REQUIRE you to memorize spawns to beat a level. I just played Gears of War 3 - at no point did I have to memorize spawns in order to beat it. I have finished pretty much every COD on Veteran - I never had to memorize spawns to beat the game, because even when enemies spawn, their reactions afterwards differ based on multiple factors (with the exception of COD4 and its infinitely respawning enemies). I'm also playing Resistance 3 right now - no spawn memorization required. Mass Effect 2 is not a pure shooter, but again no spawn memorization required.
In these games, when enemies spawn, you have a chance of avoiding them or knowing where they're coming from. In Uncharted 3, where enemies spawn is DIRECTLY in the line of sight of your character. So literally they will spawn and a second later they're shooting at you. This game tries so hard to make you "move" around the level that they basically force you out of cover using really cheap tactics.
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