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Uncharted 4: A Thief's End Multiplayer |OT| Swinging To Victory
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Chalupa Batman
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I can't even log in to MP right now so it might not have been your internet's fault. It says "Unable to verify your NAT." I know PSN is having issues at the moment but I am signed in and can see friends online, etc, including some playing Uncharted MP.
All of my loadouts have stealth + ghost and silenced weapons. It's great, but yeah definitely seen lots of others go the same way.
Rewrite
Not as deep as he thinks
Everyone should be rocking helping hand 3 in TDM, but alas it's rare to get fully revived and quickly too.
Wish there was a disclaimer in evey TDM match that says to do everything you can to deny the enemy of KO's. It amazes me that a lot of people don't get this concept and always just run past you when you're in the down state and not even once attempt to revive anyone. It's very frustrating especially since I always roll with medic bags and play the support role for TDM.
Edit: there's a live update today too
Wish there was a disclaimer in evey TDM match that says to do everything you can to deny the enemy of KO's. It amazes me that a lot of people don't get this concept and always just run past you when you're in the down state and not even once attempt to revive anyone. It's very frustrating especially since I always roll with medic bags and play the support role for TDM.
Edit: there's a live update today too
arne said:
Improvements to ranked score! Just what I was asking for! I don't expect it to be as steep of a change as I wanted, but any improvement is a good improvement.
Not entirely sure what they mean by
this though. Kinda wish they'd provide exact numbers and details as to how it works now. Before, if you lost, you lost 12 points. If you won, you earned 20 points. If you were one of the top two players on either team you got a 4 point bonus or loss deduction. I'd like to know what those values are now, or what instances specifically have been affected. I'd check it out myself, but I'm kinda supposed to be working on a presentation.
Not entirely sure what they mean by
this though. Kinda wish they'd provide exact numbers and details as to how it works now. Before, if you lost, you lost 12 points. If you won, you earned 20 points. If you were one of the top two players on either team you got a 4 point bonus or loss deduction. I'd like to know what those values are now, or what instances specifically have been affected. I'd check it out myself, but I'm kinda supposed to be working on a presentation.
TheStruggler
Report me for trolling ND/TLoU2 threads
grinded for another 3000 relics and got two boosters I dont care about or use, fuck this game I'm out. If winning games least gave me 50 relics I would be fine with it but so long.
TimeEffect
Member
I honestly never experience this
Teammates always revive me, some making very risky saves
The biggest peeves are idiots who touch the idol when we're trying to force a reset or command when teams dont defend flags
Btw, after playing plunder, it's clear path of indra is a great mystical for it. Especially on big maps like Scotland
): yeah the relic system is horribly unrewarding in every way. It is such a fun game was a really bad progression system which saddens me because it could be so much better.
#1 defender
Member
I mean, i get revived by randoms often, but there's also a good number of people who seem completely oblivious. Yesterday i had a guy taunt an enemy beside me that he didn't even down (i did), get the KO and then run off while leaving me to bleed out. That was with a close score in the 30s. We lost 38 - 40.
Yeah, but we're talking ranked TDM, and as far as I can tell, that playlist does not allow late joins. Only the unranked playlists do.
Hell I just today heard a little kid on the mic complaining about carrying randoms.
I agree it's really frustrating in TDM, even more so when it's super obvious you're losing and no one votes to forfeit. "We're losing 15-1? I think we can pull this off."
Velurian
Member
this is correct - ranked TDM does not allow late joins, solo or not.
having a very strict "no party" playlist would take away those solo players from parties of 4. in essence, you'd be waiting as a party of 4 for much longer than as a party of 5.
Trying to play TDM with randoms
YES, story of my life. I pick my healing/support build, the team decides to split up into three groups. Oh and BTW, were playing against a good 5 man party that sticks together and protect against backdoor ganks. My favorite is the one guy on my team that thinks he can run in front and fight 5vs1 by himself. (shakes head)
Negotiator
Member
No, he wasn't talking about Ranked:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=209790327&postcount=4967
Chalupa Batman
Member
They had a no-party playlist in TLoU and I don't understand why they can't do the same here. It doesn't have to be "no parties" and "parties only"--that party of 4 would still be able to find a 5th, they just need to be searching in the "parties allowed" playlist, just like in TLoU.
TimeEffect
Member
Trying to play TDM with randoms
It's not always a bad idea to flank the enemy.
Usually, it's a really great idea to have one of your teammates approach from the back and throw the enemy team off.
Negotiator
Member
It's a bad idea, because later down the line, the player pool will have shrunk significantly and it will be really hard to find players in certain playlists. I mean, it's already hard enough to find players in Plunder and this game is barely 2 months old. What will happen if they also decide to add Classic, Elimination, 3TDM, FFA etc.?
TLOU suffered from this segregation, especially the PS3 version. I'm glad they're not going to repeat these mistakes (paid DLC maps + no party/parties).
Now I realize that some people may not care about this game in 2017-2018 (too many cool games coming out), but there are people who will keep playing this game for 2-3 years.
When you're solo, you'll find solo players 90% of the time. It's not that bad
(except in Ranked)
Agreed. The "sandwich method" works, as long as you know what you're doing.
False Witness
Member
See, this is weird. I've been getting treasures during late join games.
Also, you totally quit out of a game we randomly got put on the same team on yesterday.
Stallion Dan
Member
See, this is weird. I've been getting treasures during late join games.
Also, you totally quit out of a game we randomly got put on the same team on yesterday.
It depends when you join, if you join late enough to get $600 or more treasures usually don't appear.
I quit out of lots of games, 90% of late joins I quit, laggy matches I quit, sometimes if I see my teammates are doing awful I give up the carry depending how the opponents are doing, if it's a close game I'll stick about.
That said, this username is not my PSN ID. I wasn't on last night, unless you mean very late US time, it was this morning for me.
TimeEffect
Member
Why not just do away with ranked and make it a party only mode? And then make tdm no-parties?
We dont need ranked to have competitive play.
Or maybe parties dont even matter. A good team of no parties can play well too. If only matchmaking can find equal opponents
We dont need ranked to have competitive play.
Or maybe parties dont even matter. A good team of no parties can play well too. If only matchmaking can find equal opponents
False Witness
Member
KylieDog, right?
I think the weapon grind keeps me in games no matter what. The wins don't matter so much as long as I'm doing well and getting my downs for the next unlock. That shit's addicting.
I think the weapon grind keeps me in games no matter what. The wins don't matter so much as long as I'm doing well and getting my downs for the next unlock. That shit's addicting.
More often than not, the splitting up I'm talking about happens long before the enemy is located, with no direction or purpose.
Stallion Dan
Member
Yeah that's me.
Why are parties allowed in RTDM again? This is absurd.
Whatever, Remnants is THE worst Uncharted map ever. All of the maps in this game are a severe downgrade in terms of design from what they made in Uncharted 2 and 3.
Like, bring classic maps back as soon as possible please, the only maps I like are Rooftops and River because there is some actual verticality. The rest are all London Streets tier.
Also, how are people so fucking bad at this game? I don't expect them to carry me but holy goddamn christ, how come 80% of the matches I'm playing with people that finish the game with less than half my score and ignore people who are down right in front of them? And why do they fucking play ranked? Jesus, stick to single player in explorer.
Whatever, Remnants is THE worst Uncharted map ever. All of the maps in this game are a severe downgrade in terms of design from what they made in Uncharted 2 and 3.
Like, bring classic maps back as soon as possible please, the only maps I like are Rooftops and River because there is some actual verticality. The rest are all London Streets tier.
Also, how are people so fucking bad at this game? I don't expect them to carry me but holy goddamn christ, how come 80% of the matches I'm playing with people that finish the game with less than half my score and ignore people who are down right in front of them? And why do they fucking play ranked? Jesus, stick to single player in explorer.
Stallion Dan
Member
I'm actually glad the ranked rewards suck balls. I would never, ever use any of them. So I just avoid the mode, at least until a no parties playlist is added.
TimeEffect
Member
I like the maps. Not as good as UC2 maps, but I sadly dont see ND trying any classic maps
I dont know why more people dont use power weapons. Saved my ass multiple times in command tonight
I dont know why more people dont use power weapons. Saved my ass multiple times in command tonight
Yeah something about Remnants is just sort of boring. I like the setting and the rain, but something feels plain about it.
RyanardoDaVinci
Member
We won't get any classic maps because the shitty bots would completely break them.
Trying to play TDM with randoms
LMAO
Sure, but that ain't what most randos have in mind tho. They just go "lone wolf" and feed kills to the enemy teams and leave other players in the dust camping behind some ledge instead of helping out etc.
#1 defender
Member
I really like the exterior part of the map, especially the swinging opportunities. The caves i'm not especially fond of.
Rewrite
Not as deep as he thinks
One thing I find funny is that Sam has more personality in the MP than he ever did in the SP.
And speaking of that, I've said it before and I'll say it again....I LOVE the dialogue in this game. It's the best in the series and I'm so glad naughty dog went all out on the dialogue for the MP. they deserve so much props and I'm glad they listened to all the feedback of more dialogue. I am really hoping they add future new characters with awesome dialogue.
And speaking of that, I've said it before and I'll say it again....I LOVE the dialogue in this game. It's the best in the series and I'm so glad naughty dog went all out on the dialogue for the MP. they deserve so much props and I'm glad they listened to all the feedback of more dialogue. I am really hoping they add future new characters with awesome dialogue.
I agree, the fact that they speak so much is one of the best additions to the MP. Some of them have far better dialogue than others though, Elena for instance is pretty weak.
What I don't understand is the presence of Knot and Orca. Maybe they had an actual role in the story before they got scrapped? Otherwise I don't understand why they are there, nobody likes them, they're not actual characters and their dialogue is bland. They're basically generic grunts. The fact that they're playable instead of Pinkerton or even Draza is baffling.
What I don't understand is the presence of Knot and Orca. Maybe they had an actual role in the story before they got scrapped? Otherwise I don't understand why they are there, nobody likes them, they're not actual characters and their dialogue is bland. They're basically generic grunts. The fact that they're playable instead of Pinkerton or even Draza is baffling.
Caleranatior
Neo Member
They were made specifically to fill out the villains team for the beta as Rafe and Nadine hadn't been revealed at the time. Then they were put into the story after that, probably just replacing some other generic Shoreline guys as Nadine's chief goons. Obviously there was no point just throwing away all the work they'd done on them so they kept them in for the final MP too.
Chronospherics
Member
Actually people have the impression that they were built for the story, which they were then cut out of, most likely when it shifted from Amy's interpretation.
The biggest clue to this is the fact that Elena has a line which says 'ha, you were cut out of the story' when killing these characters in multiplayer.
Trying to play TDM with randoms
The tick rate doesn't help solo players at all as it prevents retreat. Even if a team mate I know is capable is alone, if the enemy team turn on them then they usually die. You get shot in the back while running away, considerably after you've already taken cover.
There have been many occasions where I've said things like 'That guys going to die in the next 5 seconds' and sure enough, they're dead. It's very rare that solo players achieve anything unless they engage at the same time as the rest of your team. Some less conventional mysticals can help with that, like Djin and Indra as you can retreat and engage more safely.
Caleranatior
Neo Member
I'm just going off what one of the devs said on one of their streams, but that may well actually be the case. I thought Elena's "you're cut from the story" could be said to anyone though and was just a vaguely journalist related thing.
I'm pretty sure that's just Elena doing her "I'm a journalist" thing. She has a lot of lines relating to that.
Chronospherics
Member
Oh maybe, people on reddit seemed to interpret it as cue to why they were missing dialogue in the singleplayer. I didn't think of it that way, but doesn't she only say it to those two characters? Otherwise she would say it to everyone.
Negotiator
Member
Interesting observation. I'd be willing to pay full price for Amy's
TLOU kool aid-free
So much TRUTH in this post!
This explains why I was doing just fine against parties of 5 in TLOU MP during the experimental 30 Hz weekend... when they reverted it back to 15 Hz, I just couldn't do anything against them.
I wish people realized that we don't need stupid solo/parties segregation.
Tickrate tweaking could fix so many things in this game...The problem with 30 Hz is that it doubles bandwidth usage and that means it will go from ~500 Kbps to 1000 Kbps. Going to 60 Hz would quadruple the bandwidth requirements -> 500 * 4 = 2000 Kbps (all ADSL users would be thrown out of the player pool).
I'd be fine with a middle ground solution (30 Hz for pubs) and all the way up to 60 Hz for customs, but Sony/ND think that it's more important that Pablo from Argentina will be able to play the MP, even though he cannot afford to buy Uncharted Points. Whatever.
deicide2673
Neo Member
I apologise in advance if there is a lfg forum but cannot find anything. Really enjoying the MP but none of my friends play so if you are on ps4 and are a mature ish gamer then fr me deicide2673.
Cheers
Cheers
False Witness
Member
Heavy Weapons are outclassed by literally everything else that could possibly use your loadout points- boosters, mysticals, gear, and mods.
To make them actually worthwhile, I think they should be automatic KOs using the same number of shots that the downs currently do and give a Heavy Weapon KO cash amount of $100.
Chronospherics
Member
There's a community for neogaf UC4 on the PS4 you could join that and probably add people from there.
Some of us also have a separate community and chat going for ranked play.
You can add me if you like, Chronospherics.
So much TRUTH in this post!
This explains why I was doing just fine against parties of 5 in TLOU MP during the experimental 30 Hz weekend... when they reverted it back to 15 Hz, I just couldn't do anything against them.
I wish people realized that we don't need stupid solo/parties segregation.
The problem with 30 Hz is that it doubles bandwidth usage and that means it will go from ~500 Kbps to 1000 Kbps. Going to 60 Hz would quadruple the bandwidth requirements -> 500 * 4 = 2000 Kbps (all ADSL users would be thrown out of the player pool).
I'd be fine with a middle ground solution (30 Hz for pubs) and all the way up to 60 Hz for customs, but Sony/ND think that it's more important that Pablo from Argentina will be able to play the MP, even though he cannot afford to buy Uncharted Points. Whatever.
It might also be an issue because the game doesn't have dedicated servers. If you're running 30 hz then that higher bandwidth is all running through the host of the peer to peer network in UC4, which means that host needs to have good upload.
I don't think it uses anywhere near 500 kbs though. People say Black Ops 3 uses about 15meg up down / hour gameplay when you're not hosting, and I remember the other Call of Duty games used to use 60kbs or so. Not a lot for multiplayer gaming.
Reckless Onion
Member
yeah, that enforcer is pretty effin good
AGREE.
Chalupa Batman
Member
New patch finally reset the TDM leaderboards! All hail ND!