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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 5 Offseason Thread
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Right now, I'm fairly confident none of these character will be in the show.
Red Arremer
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I'm pretty sure they're just gonna postpone the Greyjoys into Season 6. Not sure what they're gonna do with the whole Young Griff storyline, but we will have Tyrion go down the Rhoyne since Yezzan is going to appear.
His casting really baffles me though.
Lol. I want them to make him awesome only to kill him at the end of the season.
Nooo! I need Manderly.
pulga
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Manderly will be in, what the hell was the point of this guy if they aren't planning on big daddy popping up down the line?
You never know what the hell they're planning.
No one cares about Quentyn, but the other guys...
I'm sure the Greyjoys will appear in season 6, if not, the only explanation I see is that they are pulling a Full Metal Alchemist anime and season 6 and 7 will be totally made up based on the previous material, sort of a "what if...?".
Still, they should totally make a prequel season with the War of the Usurper. It's the Golden age (Berserk analogy) of ASOIAF and the characters were absolutely awesome.
I'm sure the Greyjoys will appear in season 6, if not, the only explanation I see is that they are pulling a Full Metal Alchemist anime and season 6 and 7 will be totally made up based on the previous material, sort of a "what if...?".
Still, they should totally make a prequel season with the War of the Usurper. It's the Golden age (Berserk analogy) of ASOIAF and the characters were absolutely awesome.
I think Euron will be name dropped this season, to set up a season 6 introduction. None of the other Greyjoys, though. Everyone else is gone. Manderly is either cut or merged into Umber, Arianne has been chopped up and her pieces spread between Ellaria, Tyene, and Trystane. Griff is in some way merged into Trystane, Stoneheart is gone, probably to be replaced by Beric or Blackfish, or maybe the two of them together. Quentyn is lol. They'll find some excuse to give us the dragon tamer scene with other characters.
Manderly will be in, what the hell was the point of this guy if they aren't planning on big daddy popping up down the line?
My best guess: At the time of season 3, they wanted to have Manderly, but weren't sure there would be time/budget come season 5, so they set him up in a way that could be passed off as a fun Easter egg if it didn't end up happening. Meanwhile, they sent Rickon to the Umbers, so that if Manderly appeared in season 5, Umber could serve as his accomplice, like Glover does in the books, and if there wasn't space for Manderly, they'd have the set-up in place to do a shorter, Umber-only version of the story.
Manderly will be in, what the hell was the point of this guy if they aren't planning on big daddy popping up down the line?
What the hell was the point of spending so much time with the Brotherhood without Banners and showing Dondarion returning to life if they weren't planning on Lady Stoneheart down the line?
The show has a lot of details in its sets, props, and extras, that mean more in the books without ever being brought up on the show.
pulga
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I'm still in denial over that. I refuse to believe this adaptation will not fucking cover Stoneheart. It would be the greatest crime of our times.
higgsboson1997
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Why do you guys like her so much?
I was personally so relieved when she didn't show up at the end of The Children.
pulga
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It's a great twist, I would've loved to see it play out on TV and people's reaction to it.
Plus, she has to have an important end game, I like to believe.
biosnake20
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April was already pretty much confirmed way back when they said they were going to release standalone HBO GO in April along with Season 5.
I don't understand the obsession with Stoneheart. Such a cheap reveal... "Look this person you thought was dead is alive again!" Until I see how it plays out in the books, I count it as an uncharacteristically lazy use of a plot device by GRRM.
The fact that it was left out of the show does kind of surprise me though, because they seem to be more about the shock and gore than the more deep character development of the novels.
The fact that it was left out of the show does kind of surprise me though, because they seem to be more about the shock and gore than the more deep character development of the novels.
Dondarrion set the stage for Jon to resurrect.
WaffleTaco
Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
So Jon Snow got a short haircut and now they people are freaking out lol
higgsboson1997
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Yeah, but D&D probably know how to work around her though; they know much more about the overarching plot than we do.
That article is stupidness personified.
There is no way Jon skips a season, he will die at the end of this for sure (it's the cliffhanger, obviously), but he'll come back the next one.
On that note, it is my hope that when he comes back in the books he does with a smoking eye or something. There must be an epic fight between Lavarm and Lavaeye, goddamnit!
It's not even like a real hair cut. He cut off a few inches, and has 6 months to grow it back out to length.
Pyramid head
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That's pretty much the reason why everyone is so interested in the character. What does this mean for Jaime? Will Arya or Sansa ever find out? Is she going to get her revenge on Walder Frey himself? Will Jon come into play somehow? And the biggest one: So now anyone can be revived by a Red Priest? There are so many implications for the story going forward. Though D&D could just make everything easier and (Book Diversion Spoilers)
Kill off Jaime in Dorne, pissing off many of their fans but doing away with multiple plotlines
Remember that last year at Comic-Con, everyone on the panel flipped out when somebody asked a question about Stoneheart. If the story arc was completely cut, D&D might have just said something about going in a different direction than the books or cutting out extraneous material but they did the opposite. In all honesty, revealing Stoneheart during the encounter with Brienne would be a far better decision. Revealing her at the end of ASOS took away what would have been a major plot twist that could have saved AFFC from much of its criticism.
For all we know, they're not doing that storyline, either.
BobTheFork
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You know, all this time wondering how Jon could come back, it never occurred to me that The Red Woman could, theoretically, just walk over to his body, and say the same words that Thoros said. I don't think that's what WILL happen but it could be much easier that I thought.
Gamer @ Heart
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Yup. And the prologue chapter set up warging into an animal, in this case, Ghost, to avoid death. Everything was set up to him dying and escaping his oaths when he comes back.
Exterminieren
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I can't think why they'd cast Varamyr if they weren't.
Although I hate LSH being cut, the BwB still served a purpose, and Melisandre being there makes it very clear. They wanted to introduce the whole R'hllor resurrection thing because Jon will need it and Melisandre will perform it.
MR BLACKMAGIK
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Fuck IGN and Polygon for spoiling me on the upcoming season. What the hell is the point of articles like that except for spoiling fans of the show? Book readers already know everything that happens and show watchers are just going to get spoiled. Fuck them.
Manderly will be in, what the hell was the point of this guy if they aren't planning on big daddy popping up down the line?
D&D aren't very good at planning ahead. Kevan Lannister was cast but then cut.
What exactly did they spoil? Just out of curiosity.
Steelyuhas
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If you haven't read the books, I recommend staying away from news of upcoming seasons. Too risky to know what articles are coming from a perspective of someone who's read the books or not.
By "cut" you just mean not being present in seasons 3 and 4? Kevan was in the first two seasons.
He was rumoured to have be seen on the set of a key scene during Season 5 filming.
Also, this'll be my first time experiencing the hustle and bustle of a new season on GAF. I look forward to sharing it with you all!
Be ready for an abundance of "this episode was boring nothing happened."
I'm just really excited to see Cersei's descent into madness on screen and Dany and Tyrion finally meeting, not to mention seeing what Sansa and Littlefinger are up to.
^ That'll all be fun to see.
I came in about half way through 4. NegativeGAF was pretty strong throughout.
I'm actually looking forward to Theon's stuff this time around.
I came in about half way through 4. NegativeGAF was pretty strong throughout.
I'm actually looking forward to Theon's stuff this time around.
I can't even imagine not tuning into this show anymore.biosnake20
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I'm still hoping for an extended seventh season split into two parts. If Sopranos can do it why can't GoT?
I suspect this is how its going to have to be done.
It didn't help Sopranos, though. Average ratings went down after the first break and never recovered.
If the idea is to give GRRM more time, it'd be even more pointless, as he'll struggle to release TWOW before the show is over.
Lord of Castamere
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Well, if there weren't so many negative things last season we wouldn't have been so negative.
Basileus777
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Yet last season was the strongest season of the show since the first one. Those long tangents of whining about the most minor of details are just part of the culture I suppose.
Lord of Castamere
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Didn't know entire filler plotlines, and hamfisted fanfiction fights, were minor.
Basileus777
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The fight scenes were good. And I was thinking more of the outrage over things like "only cat" not being said.
What's wrong with wells choreographed fight scenes? It's not like the show is bursting with them.
I've been thinking they'll do something like the FMA 2003 anime too, but with D&D knowing the end points of the story, the show and the books will probably end up being closer than the FMA manga and the first anime were.
Basileus777
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No, but they were briefly in the same place before shit went down.
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