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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 5 Offseason Thread
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Haha Liam Cunningham is basically Roose without his beard. Looks super weird.
Holy crap the juxtaposition between Jaime's narration of the Kingsguard and Bronn's is just brilliant it's defintley taken from these characters PoV's. Jamie laments and is regretful and romanticizes the Kingsguard where as Bronn is just cold hard logic he goes as far as to praise Jaime for killing Aerys.
I'm pleasantly surprised.
I'm pleasantly surprised.
When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east, When the seas go dry and mountains blow in the wind like leaves
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Either this summer/fall/winter, next spring/summer/fall/winter, next next spring/summer/fall/winter, or next next next spring/summer/fall/winter.
When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east. When the seas go dry and mountains blow in the wind like leaves. When you finish watching all seven seasons of Game of Thrones. Then the book will come out, and not before.
EDIT:
Beaten like Rhaegar on the Trident.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Which Martell will take over Quentyn's role in fulfilling the maegi's prophecy? (the sun rising in the west and setting in the east)
Basileus777
Member
Was that part made in the show? I could see them ignoring it even if it was.
Like the previous times I've posted in this thread, this might not be the right place, but I figure it would be worth a shot.
I think I have missed some critical things while reading the series. I'm about 600 pages into book 2 and really loving it (though my progress has slowed down).
I'm scared if researching this myself in case I stumble across a book 5 spoiler on a Wiki or google in general.
#1: Why did Eddard and Robert rebel against the Mad King? I am confident I know most of the details of the rebellion between its beginning and end (I.e. Robert slaying Rhaegar, Tywin betraying the Mad King, Walder Frey showing up "late", Jaime killing the mad king, etc...). I just cant remember why the rebellion started. Should I know why by page 600 of Book 2? Or is it something that will be revealed later?
#2: Lyanna's death is also making me scratch my head. I feel like I should know the circumstances around her death but I just can't remember if this was addressed in the parts I've read so far. Off the top of my head I know Robert loved Lyanna. I know the reason Cersei really hated Robert and never gave him a trueborn child is because the first night they had sex after marriage Robert had mistakenly called Cersei "Lyanna". I feel awful for being uncertain about the next tidbit but I think Lyanna is Eddard's sister? I cant remember how she died or if it's even important.
I think I have missed some critical things while reading the series. I'm about 600 pages into book 2 and really loving it (though my progress has slowed down).
I'm scared if researching this myself in case I stumble across a book 5 spoiler on a Wiki or google in general.
#1: Why did Eddard and Robert rebel against the Mad King? I am confident I know most of the details of the rebellion between its beginning and end (I.e. Robert slaying Rhaegar, Tywin betraying the Mad King, Walder Frey showing up "late", Jaime killing the mad king, etc...). I just cant remember why the rebellion started. Should I know why by page 600 of Book 2? Or is it something that will be revealed later?
#2: Lyanna's death is also making me scratch my head. I feel like I should know the circumstances around her death but I just can't remember if this was addressed in the parts I've read so far. Off the top of my head I know Robert loved Lyanna. I know the reason Cersei really hated Robert and never gave him a trueborn child is because the first night they had sex after marriage Robert had mistakenly called Cersei "Lyanna". I feel awful for being uncertain about the next tidbit but I think Lyanna is Eddard's sister? I cant remember how she died or if it's even important.
I think you should know by now. I believe it is mostly book 1 stuff.
The Mad King's son kidnapped the sister of Ned. Ned's brother and father go to King's Landing to complain, Mad King kills them. Ned, Robert and Jon Arryn start a war.
Lyanna is Ned's kidnapped sister. She died locked in a tower guarded by the majority of the Kingsguard in a puddle of blood. That is all you need to know.
Basileus777
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It started when Prince Rhaegar kidnapped Lyanna, Ned's sister. Ned's older brother Brandon went to King's Landing to fight Rhaegar, and the Mad King imprisoned him. Brandon and Ned's father (who came later to answer for Brandon) were killed by the Mad King, and then the King demanded Ned and Robert's heads. Jon Arryn (Robert and Ned were his wards) rose up in rebellion and the war started.
Her death isn't explained in great detail. It's purposely vague.
PhoenixDark
Banned
#1: Rhaegar Targaryen kidnapped Lyanna Stark. When her brother Brandon Stark learned of this he traveled to King's Landing with some other northern lords to protest and demand Rhaegar's life. The Mad King had them arrested and send summons for their fathers. He then executed fathers and sons, then sent a summons to the Eyrie demanding the heads of Ned Stark and Robert Baratheon (Lyanna's fiance). Instead of turning them in, the lord of the Vale (Jon Arryn) called his banners and declared war.
#2: Lyanna was Ned's sister, yes. Her and Rhaegar went to Dorne to hide. When war broke out, Rhaegar left her in a tower and rode back home to take command of an army. After the war Ned learned his sister was hidden in a specific tower and rode their with six of his friends. The tower was guarded by three Kingsguard, including the Lord Commander and Ser Author Dayne, arguably the greatest swordsman in the series. Only Ned and one of his friends (Howland Reed - the father of Jojen and Meera Reed) survived. They entered the tower and found Lyanna dying in a "bed of blood." Lyanna begged Ned to promise her something, and when he agreed she died in peace.
Thanks PhoenixDark. I mean no offense but I am going to hold off on reading your #2 section and take Joni and Basileus's word that Lyanna's death is purposefully vague in the sections I've read so far.
But still thanks to all of you.
There's one thing from PhoenixDark's post you need to know too, since it was mentioned in Ned's last chapter in book 1:
Cheers, buddy. You guys are great.
Willkiller
Banned
There has been a Red Wedding style purge of my favourite community on this site, please guys, tell me everything is going to be ok.
Tell me season 5 will be brilliant.
Tell me TWOW will be out next week.
Tell me season 5 will be brilliant.
Tell me TWOW will be out next week.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
I think so? I'm not sure.
cj_iwakura
Member
Probably safe to speculate that she gave birth to Jon Snow and died shortly afterward.
PHOENIXZERO
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I for one am going to enjoy the book readers who were dickheads with spoilers now getting spoiled.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Steelyuhas
Member
davos sez twow was delayed til next yearhes lying rite
He probably doesn't know, like the rest of us. Might just have heard the story/non-story where he isn't on his publishers schedule.
It's never coming out :/
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
:___;
Basileus777
Member
davos sez twow was delayed til next year
You can't delay something that never had a release date.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
What about those who weren't dickheads but were respectful and will still be getting spoiled?
davos sez twow was delayed til next year
I thought that was already confirmed. Didn't the publisher say it wasn't coming out this year? Yes, we are getting TWOW on TV before we get the book.
Also season 5 spoilers:
SAMOAN DROGO IS GOING TO UNITE THE SEVEN KINGDOMS
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
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lolz too bad embrace the show HBO HBO HBO
I think that was debunked or something.
Basileus777
Member
They'll be the new breed of "unsullied." Best stay away from social media, comment sections, or message boards until 20XX.
Atraveller
Banned
I'm actually not looking forward to her creepy stuff in S5.
Steelyuhas
Member
It's not currently on the publisher's schedule to which George responded that he wasn't going to give them a timeframe and a place on their schedule. The plan seems to be when it's done it's done and he'll hand it off to the publisher.
That's not to say you should get your hopes up though.
biosnake20
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PHOENIXZERO
Member
It sucks. :\
Yeah, I've gotten ok with the idea of seeing the ending in the show first, but I'm also only someone who read the books after seeing the first season. I can totally understand not wanting it that way though, especially people who have been reading the books for years before the show was even conceived, and it's going to be a rough couple of years/decades for people who try to abstain from the show until the books wrap up. Those last two season are going to seep into pop culture, and spending years dodging spoilers that could really crop up anywhere is going to really suck. I'm honesty not sure how many are going to actually be able to get those books completely unspoiled, but godspeed to those who try.
I probably wouldn't go higher than 20% at this point. It's just been too long. I don't think the twist would even work anymore. They haven't foreshadowed it nearly enough for it to seem reasonable to viewers. I can see delaying her from season 4 to 5, but only if they spend season 4 dropping hints that something out of the ordinary was up with the Brotherhood. Since they didn't do that at all, I think she's just gone.
Cpt.Underpants
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Gleeson is reeaaaaally enjoying it huh
It also sounds like he said they'll be finished filming the series before ADOS is even started. I really hope D&D don't fuck up the ending. They've cut so much already. We'll have a pretty good idea of things to come after Season 5.davos sez twow was delayed til next year
Still hoping for a movie to finish the series.
Dénouement
Banned
hihihi Sophie pretty much confirming that
Sansa will live to see S6. Many people seemed to think she would be one of the ~shock deaths~ this season.
PhoenixDark
Banned
Too bad. And I say that as a respectful reader who never spoiled anyone or flaunted my book reading superiority. But I saw so much dumb shit from readers that I'm fine with being punished alongside them. Not that I think the show will spoil everything but still...if Tyrion dies in a later season it's safe to say everyone will know about it, and it will point to him dying in the books. If those rumors about Jon's ending at Hardholme this season are true it suggests the ADWD aftermath at the Wall is going to be really really cold, if you know what I mean.
I won't be able to escape spoilers at work. And while the books will have the true ending, I expect the show to spoil multiple big things. I'm not going to blame show viewers, I'll blame Martin. If he had simply bunkered down in 2012 we wouldn't be in this position.
Basileus777
Member
Dénouement;152933909 said:
It was crazy to think that to begin with.
Sansa is one of the safest characters there are, her slow buildup wasn't going to just suddenly end.
I bet he announced his retirement right after that scene
Fuuuuu the Tyrell cover is now out of stock as well
I'll just wait and hope they restock at some point, even if it means paying full price.
When this is all done, people are going to be able to make a fortune hawking covers on eBay to cover people who missed one, lol. I know if I end up with a duplicate by the end I wouldn't be able to talk myself out of spending an inordinate amount of money to fix it.
Steelyuhas
Member
Dénouement;152933909 said:
I think entertaining the thought that one of the core major characters is going to die this season that still lives in the books is quite the stretch. Characters like Grey Worm or Bronn getting the axe is more realistic.
Yeah, I'm going into this season fully expecting Bronn, Grey Worm, and Meryn Trant to get early deaths. Then one other C-level character to make 4. Tormund or Alisser or Hizdahr or something. Maybe Ellaria or one of the Sand Snakes in Dorne.
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