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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 5 - Sundays on HBO
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cartoon_soldier
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Corpsepyre
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VERY good episode. I'm glad they chose to focus on a few characters, and everything ended up being more compelling for that reason.
Also, guys, can you inform me as to that ending? I have mostly forgotten books 4/5, save for some big events, but who were those stone-like men again?
Also, guys, can you inform me as to that ending? I have mostly forgotten books 4/5, save for some big events, but who were those stone-like men again?
This would be an amazing scene to end the season with. Bravo, sir.
Dany's scenes are a black hole of entertainment. Goddamnit. How sad really, after I liked them so much back in S1.
Anyway, I was pleasantly surprised they managed to include part of Tyrions' travelogue from ADWD. Show's making moves, making moves indeed. I wish they made more massive changes to Dany's storyline, like completely fucking changed. I can barely stand it anymore.
And yea, Jon's getting stabbed up the butt.
I thought "speculation" was supposed to be spoiler tagged? It seems dangerously obvious that that is what's going to happen.
Anyway, I was pleasantly surprised they managed to include part of Tyrions' travelogue from ADWD. Show's making moves, making moves indeed. I wish they made more massive changes to Dany's storyline, like completely fucking changed. I can barely stand it anymore.
And yea, Jon's getting stabbed up the butt.
I thought "speculation" was supposed to be spoiler tagged? It seems dangerously obvious that that is what's going to happen.
PhoenixDark
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Melisandre often speaks of blood sacrifices, not the kiss.
Byakuya769
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Weird way to push the Dany marriage forward.
So we should expect a lengthy discussion about Azor Azahi in the next couple episodes to set this up, I suppose.
Like how they talked up greyscale the past few episodes and now it's a major plot point.
I'm ok with this.
As the deviations get greater, the books get spoiled less.
EnlightenedMint
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Yeah I thought the same.
I guess they want her to seem more competent on the show then in the book or at least this being a turning point for her as a leader.
If speculation had to be tagged, this whole thread would be black/white bars.
The only stuff that need to be tagged is info based on filming leaks, insider knowledge, and specific references to episode previews.
Yes, that's exactly what he did. Yarwyck said "less" when the correct usage was "fewer". Stannis muttered "fewer" under his breath. It was an amusing little callback to Season 2 when he made the exact same correction for Davos.
Basileus777
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Spoiler tagging speculation that isn't informed by leaks or such would be absurd. And while that line of thought about the sacrifices as been going around the internet for the past few weeks, it isn't based on anything that needs to be spoiler tagged.
Latvian Hitman
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Really strong episode with the exception of all things related to Meereen/Dany. One of my favorite episodes in quite a while, actually.
Can they make it two in a row? Preview makes it look like a possibility.
Can they make it two in a row? Preview makes it look like a possibility.
It's a Cogman double-whammy, so it could happen.
Well, once upon a time a gaffer described the entire ending of Rome disguised as "speculation."
They're people afflicted with greyscale. In the books, they attack Tyrion and Young Griff, Griff saves them both, being inflicted whilst rescuing Tyrion after he falls over.
bodyofanamerican
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I am really, really, really not looking forward to this wedding.
edit: Given my allegiances, I'm really not looking forward to anything in the back half of this season. My ONLY request is that they be done with killing characters that are alive in the books.
edit: Given my allegiances, I'm really not looking forward to anything in the back half of this season. My ONLY request is that they be done with killing characters that are alive in the books.
bengraven
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Stonemen making an appearance could be just because it was a great sequence they wanted on the show, an actual action sequence, and because they wanted someone to get inflicted with it. "The one good part of Dance we can use" - B and B being snarky.
But I still wonder if we'll get a greyscale plague in Westeros and if this is setting it up.
Jorah: "It's clobberin' time!"
Daario leading Dany to the bedroom: "you said that right!"
LOL I meant to bring that up, too. It was played beautifully and eerie instead of powerful and "awesome yo". It reminded me a lot of The Mist and the behemoth at the end. Music was eerie and beautiful too. A great, non-offensive scene.
That gif is going to get some major play here (Kill it with fire)
As for KL, it really did feel like a Dance of Dragons episode.
Yeah, it was really quick and I was shocked.
The look on Hizdahr's face was great. It looked tortured and anguished with the thought, but then he turned and I swear I saw a tiny smile.
But I still wonder if we'll get a greyscale plague in Westeros and if this is setting it up.
Jorah: "It's clobberin' time!"
Daario leading Dany to the bedroom: "you said that right!"
LOL I meant to bring that up, too. It was played beautifully and eerie instead of powerful and "awesome yo". It reminded me a lot of The Mist and the behemoth at the end. Music was eerie and beautiful too. A great, non-offensive scene.
In the absence of everyone's favourite buffoon, Face Tyrell, I was forced to gif something else for once.
Now that I mention it, it's pretty incredible that this episode lacked anything regarding King's Landing (which has always been the show's centrepiece), and still maintained its very high quality. Not that everything else is lesser than KL scenes, but it is the anchor of the show.
That gif is going to get some major play here (Kill it with fire)
As for KL, it really did feel like a Dance of Dragons episode.
Yeah, it was really quick and I was shocked.
The look on Hizdahr's face was great. It looked tortured and anguished with the thought, but then he turned and I swear I saw a tiny smile.
cubicle47b
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Yeah. The scene happens on the Rhoyne in the books.
BobTheFork
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I enjoyed Stannis talking to Sam (who was scared as hell : ) ) and I like him looking into the Walkers but what else do they need to know? Fire for Wrights, dragon glass for Walkers. I would be surprised if they found another great way to kill them. Also, who gives a shit WHY dragonglass works, just use it.
I could see them sending Sam away and just having him be out most of next season. They don't really need to show the Citadel. He needs to not be there when/if/WHEN Jon get the Knife. I think Ammon will die before that happens though.
I've been expecting the Frey Pies to stick around for some reason, I don't know why. So I keep thinking Winterhell gets a few Frey visitors...but I don't know who would be killing them in secret. Unless they just have Sansa kill them which would be kind of cool but I don't see it.
Fookin' LOVED Jorah and Tyrion's scenes. Really well done even if it's expected that Jorah gets greyscale. I feel like Tyrion finally seeing a dragon and understanding so many things he never believed in was a huge moment that they played nicely.
I could see them sending Sam away and just having him be out most of next season. They don't really need to show the Citadel. He needs to not be there when/if/WHEN Jon get the Knife. I think Ammon will die before that happens though.
I've been expecting the Frey Pies to stick around for some reason, I don't know why. So I keep thinking Winterhell gets a few Frey visitors...but I don't know who would be killing them in secret. Unless they just have Sansa kill them which would be kind of cool but I don't see it.
Fookin' LOVED Jorah and Tyrion's scenes. Really well done even if it's expected that Jorah gets greyscale. I feel like Tyrion finally seeing a dragon and understanding so many things he never believed in was a huge moment that they played nicely.
bengraven
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RIP Sansa and her character development
bengraven
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RIP Sansa and her character development
We'll have to see. There was a bit of "new Sansa" in her reactions at dinner and you can see she's taking a bit of pleasure in seeing them squirm. She's not hanging her head and "yes m'lord"ing much. I'm actually hoping to see a scene with her and Myranda where she slaps the shit out of her for what she did with Theon. I can see it now: "You're the fucking kennel master's daughter: go hang out with the rest of your bitches" just before she lights her candle.
AcademicSaucer
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The whole dinner scene at winterfell was hard to watch.
bengraven
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I wonder if George got goosebumps watching such a fantastic actor as Peter Vaughan saying one of his favorite written lines. "Kill the boy, Jon Snow. Kill the boy...so that the man may be born".
I was a bit disappointed that Ramsay went full on creep on her. I was hoping he would wait to reveal it on their wedding night. "Guess what? I'm Joffrey 2.0!"
I was a bit disappointed that Ramsay went full on creep on her. I was hoping he would wait to reveal it on their wedding night. "Guess what? I'm Joffrey 2.0!"
bengraven
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Gotta admit, I loved Roose in this episode. He had two fantastic scenes with some great dialogue and he pulled it off fantastically.
Also during the dinner scene you see Sansa giving him the "are you fucking kidding me?" look directly to his face, so you know Ramsay's enjoying himself with her already.
Edit: was just thinking they HAVE to do a scene with Walda and Sansa alone together at some point. You know they have things to say to each other. Walda doesn't seem completely vapid.
Also during the dinner scene you see Sansa giving him the "are you fucking kidding me?" look directly to his face, so you know Ramsay's enjoying himself with her already.
Edit: was just thinking they HAVE to do a scene with Walda and Sansa alone together at some point. You know they have things to say to each other. Walda doesn't seem completely vapid.
Oooook, that was good. It's somewhat refreshing to watch an episode where most of the stuff is completely new, even the WF scenes feel right though I continue to say LFs plot is stupid. I see where D&D were going and I suspect the endgame is strong, but the premise is just bad.
The dragons were great but Dany is just terribad. Bad, bad, bad, bad. Not even Daario and his smugness can carry this ship now, something needs to happen: either she goes batshit insane and starts burning everything (I hope that is the case) or let her die, but she is killing the show. I'm not sure if Tyrion can set things straight.
Oh, speaking of WF, when Ramsay asks Theon to apologize I was expecting Sansa to say "And you, Lord Bolton, are you not going to apologize for killing my brother and my mother?". Maaaaaaaaaaan that would have been badass.
The dragons were great but Dany is just terribad. Bad, bad, bad, bad. Not even Daario and his smugness can carry this ship now, something needs to happen: either she goes batshit insane and starts burning everything (I hope that is the case) or let her die, but she is killing the show. I'm not sure if Tyrion can set things straight.
Oh, speaking of WF, when Ramsay asks Theon to apologize I was expecting Sansa to say "And you, Lord Bolton, are you not going to apologize for killing my brother and my mother?". Maaaaaaaaaaan that would have been badass.
Veritigo_X
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Did that gaffer open a history book to come up with that speculation?
Dusk Soldier
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Not sure what you mean there. Tywin's children never walk away from a convo with him feeling good about themselves.
He always finds a way to make them feel like shit.
You think you're being funny, but you obviously have not seen the show.
Cpt.Underpants
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Yep, the moment Tyrion opened his eyes after the attack. There's like a tender moment where both of them were concerned about each others wellbeing
I see a bromance there
Thanks for the reply. That's disappointing.
Walder Frey is still on Arya's list, so wouldn't that imply a season 6 appearance on she's finished her training?
Gabriel_Logan
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Did he read a history book? Lol
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
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I majored in history in college with a focus on Lucius Vorenus and Titus Pullo.
graffix13
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Veritigo_X
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I've actually seen the show so I know many aspects of it are fiction, but you can still use history to predict what will happen in the major plot points. Similar to how we can use the ASOIAF books to predict what will happen in alternate reality TV Westeros.
Anyway, this is completely off topic.
BobTheFork
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Well, the Frey pies got served and she is still in Bravoos in the books. It wouldn't mean the end of the Frey story line, it's just some small revenge on some Frey family until Walder Frey gets his face broken.
Yes, you can totally use history to predict that (Rome spoilers but not really cuz history books amirite)
Vorenus dies and that Titus Pullo ends up rescuing the illegitimate son he had with Cleopatra
Dat history tho. Dat history indeed.
No she wasn't, it was her husband who was an asshole.
WrenchNinja
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I was waiting for Sansa to make a "is your father going to apologize to?" Comment but it didn't happen
Darth Sansa is nothing but hype
Darth Sansa is nothing but hype
If this wasn't the plan, it should be. Fantastic.
Basileus777
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Spoiling historical fiction. Is nothing sacred?
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