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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 5 - Sundays on HBO
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Well, Jon Conn thinks he has a few years but the show is the show so who knows.
Guys, if you were to draw out a diagram for the books that connected major events you'd probably end up with a gigantic web of circumstances that have led to certain conclusions.
Now eliminate every instance of characters experiencing two things that are different from each other (like success and defeat) in a short time. Then remove all ambiguity. Then assume everyone dies. So every character who would otherwise live out a boring existence must die. Then assume everyone wants revenge for everything. Then throw in Loras having gay sex.
There's the show.
Now eliminate every instance of characters experiencing two things that are different from each other (like success and defeat) in a short time. Then remove all ambiguity. Then assume everyone dies. So every character who would otherwise live out a boring existence must die. Then assume everyone wants revenge for everything. Then throw in Loras having gay sex.
There's the show.
Ramsay wouldn't be stupid enough to use the line himself if he was trying to trick her. He's completely tone-deaf and ignorant of the precariousness of the political situation there.
What else did you expect, the show has limited resources and limited time.
She was on and off in other seasons as well but nothing close to only being in 2/5 and her scenes have been pretty short too
olly has gotten more screen time than her at this point. What a waste of Braavos
No, that's exactly what I expect.
The show runners probably have a giant chart of red ink with things crossed out, and the red ink has been getting thicker as we have gotten closer to ADWD.
adamsappel
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Ah, thanks. That's funny! I wish I'd caught it.
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Varys has never been alone in a scene before, has he? He's only there to further someone else's story. Maybe Varys buys them from the slavers.
Blindfolded Arya. See, I know how this show works.
badcrumble
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Oh that's totally happening and it'll be a hoot.
It would be a perfect capper to Tyrion's ridiculously circuitous journey to a queen who jets out on a dragon the moment he's near her.
I liked it too. I can't remember the last time most of this thread (or its predecessors) liked an episode though.
Interestingly this recent ep just bumped the fact that Randyll Tarly is a person that exists. Maybe he'll actually appear in the show and have some significant role to play in the near future.
So far this season has been the best yet
Let's not get carried away now.
Yeah...I don't see that happening.
I get the need to compress storylines. Fine. But why spend time creating a pointless love story that has no bearing on the overall story? Grey Worm/Missandei. Ugh.
One and Two will not be touched in terms of quality. Mostly because they didn't get too creative.
higgsboson1997
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Haha, it's cool to see how different people have different opinions on Thrones, simply because how consistently good it is.
For me personally:
1. Season 4
2. Season 3
3. Season 1
4. Season 2
I think I would place Season 5 at either the 2nd or 3rd place about now.
I'm liking Jon Snow a bit more this season than last one, and I feel like we're learning more about Ramsay aside from the fact that he tortures people.
Every season has had a channel-switcher though.
First season it was Dany's march.
Second season it was Qarth.
Third season it was Bran and Stannis.
Fourth season it was Bran.
This season it's probably the sand snakes.
However, I love that there are four major characters (Brienne, Stannis, Jon, and Sansa/Ramsay/Roose) whose paths possibly intersect at Winterfell, or at least they're meeting before everyone goes to Winterfell in Jon's case.
Every season has had a channel-switcher though.
First season it was Dany's march.
Second season it was Qarth.
Third season it was Bran and Stannis.
Fourth season it was Bran.
This season it's probably the sand snakes.
However, I love that there are four major characters (Brienne, Stannis, Jon, and Sansa/Ramsay/Roose) whose paths possibly intersect at Winterfell, or at least they're meeting before everyone goes to Winterfell in Jon's case.
The dragon that heats Winterfell
RatskyWatsky
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I didn't like that one much, though I did appreciate the increased focus. The show has come a long way from being the awfully thin clip show it was a few seasons ago.
Unfortunately, this episode mostly focused on the worst characters - Jon/Sam, the Boltons, and Daenerys. Jon's stuff was okay, I guess. As good as you could hope for given the circumstances, but the latter two storylines didn't work for me at all. And speaking of Sam, I wonder if the mention of Oldtown was merely world building or if they're actually planning on doing that whole storyline from the books? In a season where everything is being streamlined to death, I'd be surprised if they went that route.
I liked seeing Tyrion and Jorah sailing through the ruins (it being the ruins of Valyria though...lol) - the atmosphere was very well done. I also thought that the scene where they both saw Drogon was handled well.
Unfortunately, this episode mostly focused on the worst characters - Jon/Sam, the Boltons, and Daenerys. Jon's stuff was okay, I guess. As good as you could hope for given the circumstances, but the latter two storylines didn't work for me at all. And speaking of Sam, I wonder if the mention of Oldtown was merely world building or if they're actually planning on doing that whole storyline from the books? In a season where everything is being streamlined to death, I'd be surprised if they went that route.
I liked seeing Tyrion and Jorah sailing through the ruins (it being the ruins of Valyria though...lol) - the atmosphere was very well done. I also thought that the scene where they both saw Drogon was handled well.
Basileus777
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Season 2 is probably the worst one.
Operations
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Amazing episode.
Melisandre not staying at The Wall is huge. Changes all my theories and predictions.
Melisandre not staying at The Wall is huge. Changes all my theories and predictions.
RatskyWatsky
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I wish the show would take a page from Orphan Black season 3 and have
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Theon hallucinate a little squid that talks to him like Helena does with the scorpion.
Yo those shots of Tyrion and Jorah on that causeway were beautiful af.
Also I'm all about the kinky/fucked up sex politics in Winterfell and you can't stop me.
Grey Word spitting game like whaaaaaat. Finally they smooched. I hope they don't waffle around and just commit to those two smooching all the time. I'm tired of people saying "but he's a eunuch??" And then looking bashful. Eunuchs smooch too whatever just deal with it.
Also I'm all about the kinky/fucked up sex politics in Winterfell and you can't stop me.
Grey Word spitting game like whaaaaaat. Finally they smooched. I hope they don't waffle around and just commit to those two smooching all the time. I'm tired of people saying "but he's a eunuch??" And then looking bashful. Eunuchs smooch too whatever just deal with it.
Someone should make him a golden cock like they made a golden hand for Jaime.
Yeah, this makes me think, if Melisandre isn't staying, who's gonna revive Jon?
Maybe they'll just kill him. Maybe they won't do it entirely.
hipsterpants
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Dany's going the Mad Queen route right? I'm used to boring incompetent book Dany but she basically took complete charge and had that dude roasted alive (was she the one that pushed him?). That would be a huge improvement over her book arc.
Well, I never thought that the stone men would be important enough to make the cut, but here we are. Something big may go down at Oldtown. I don't think they're quite cruel enough to tease a plot like that that they still plan on cutting. If Oldtown is in, I would have to think that boosts the odds of some season 6 Greyjoy plot, since the Greyjoy invasion seems important to whatever is happening in Oldtown in the books. Things may not be quite as slimmed down as we thought, just a lot of things delayed to season 6.
You trying to give Missandei splinters?
Ehh Jon has to go to Hardhome and come back. Plenty of time for Mel to leave for Winterfell and return to the Wall.
She told an Unsullied to push him. Then she put her hand sexy-scary on Hizdhar's shoulder.
She told an Unsullied to push him. Then she put her hand sexy-scary on Hizdhar's shoulder.
If Jon is the hero, someone has to be the villain. It's either Stannis or Dany.
However, Dany needs a much bigger army to be a threat in the end game.
I didn't, but it's like a war against zombies, isn't it? You just survive. You can't win unless you break some curse or cure them, and I don't see any nukes in Westeros.
CitizenVectron
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Or Littlefinger. Basically setting up mystical power against a secular master.
superdeluxe
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Beric Dondarion still needs to give up his life, if they have completely abanonded LSH
Yeah, people seem to not really be talking about this much but it is HUGE.
metalslimer
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They could just not have him stabbed in the show and revive him in the books
I really don't think that things that happen in the show matter that much to plot points in the book when so much is changing
I really don't think that things that happen in the show matter that much to plot points in the book when so much is changing
Moff
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jon will be stabbed, there has been tons of setup
melisandre going away is indeed huge, maybe they freeze his body. maybe they make ghost eat him and melisandre can somehow work with the feces? who knows
anyway, completely fine with Dany being the endgame villain, the only problem is if Clarke can pull that off. she definitely has been best when being badass.
melisandre going away is indeed huge, maybe they freeze his body. maybe they make ghost eat him and melisandre can somehow work with the feces? who knows
anyway, completely fine with Dany being the endgame villain, the only problem is if Clarke can pull that off. she definitely has been best when being badass.
It's too unclear where they're going with it to say much yet. It could blow up a ton of theories. I would say maybe she's leaving because they're dropping the stabbing altogether, so no need to revive Jon, but they've been dropping way too many hints about discontent among the Watch, and building up Jon's desire to strike the Boltons too much to not be going there.
The decision to move Shireen is what's particularly weird. Mel I could see them just wanting to keep her with Stannis since Jon will be going to Hardhome, and then they could move her back into place later, but why move Shireen? The assumption was that her sacrifice would revive Jon, but now she won't be anywhere near Jon. Maybe Brienne kills Stannis and Shireen is sacrificed to revive him? But in that case, this whole Shireen plot is a show invention rather than something pulled from future events, since none of those characters are remotely close together in the books, and we've all probably been wrong in assuming that the sacrifice of Shireen must be an upcoming book event.
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