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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 5 - Sundays on HBO

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What if the last scene of the season is Tyrion mounting a dragon and taking off into flight. All book readers are prettty sure it is happening for Danny this season, and I bet a majority of show only watchers expect something like it to happen sooner or later, or risk becoming annoyed by her storyline not moving along fast enough.

Quite a few book readers are on about subscribing to that Tyrion is a secret Targ theory, whereas show watchers have no idea so it would be completely surprising to them much more so than with Danny. So maybe Dany mounts dragon in ep 8 or 9 and in 10 a dragon is recepted well to Tyrion, which surprises Tyrion himself moreso than anyone else. He appears really cynical about everything in the first episode so to have something so surprising happen might give him a bit of confidence.
 
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The Smoking Bun

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_Ryo_ said:
What if the last scene of the season is Tyrion mounting a dragon and taking off into flight. All book readers are prettty sure it is happening for Danny this season, and I bet a majority of show only watchers expect something like it to happen sooner or later, or risk becoming annoyed by her storyline not moving along fast enough.

Quite a few book readers are on about subscribing to that Tyrion is a secret Targ theory, whereas show watchers have no idea so it would be completely surprising to them much more so than with Danny. So maybe Dany mounts dragon in ep 8 or 9 and in 10 a dragon is recepted well to Tyrion, which surprises Tyrion himself moreso than anyone else. He appears really cynical about everything in the first episode so to have something so surprising happen might give him a bit of confidence.
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So Targaryen's are the new Cylons? Everyone is a secret Targ?
 
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PHOENIXZERO said:
I wouldn't be surprised if Arya's going blind is her cliffhanger with someone else playing the Dareon role. By someone else I mean
Meryn Trant
since we know what's happening there already.
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I don't think she'll go blind. In the books it was like one chapter that's it. How do you portray blindness on a show anyway? I suppose showing her eyes wide open then a POV of her with near darkness, but on this show it might be corny.
 
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Jigorath

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_Ryo_ said:
What if the last scene of the season is Tyrion mounting a dragon and taking off into flight. All book readers are prettty sure it is happening for Danny this season, and I bet a majority of show only watchers expect something like it to happen sooner or later, or risk becoming annoyed by her storyline not moving along fast enough.

Quite a few book readers are on about subscribing to that Tyrion is a secret Targ theory, whereas show watchers have no idea so it would be completely surprising to them much more so than with Danny. So maybe Dany mounts dragon in ep 8 or 9 and in 10 a dragon is recepted well to Tyrion, which surprises Tyrion himself moreso than anyone else. He appears really cynical about everything in the first episode so to have something so surprising happen might give him a bit of confidence.
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And then Ned comes back to life and rides a dragon too.
 
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The Smoking Bun

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_Ryo_ said:
You are getting it now. Anyway a lot of people seem to believe that Danny, Jon, and Tyrion are part of "The three headed dragon" for some reason.
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Dany & Jon (OMG! 5EVA!) seems a bit too obvious but most likely true as being two of the dragon heads or dragon riders. Why Tyrion as the 3rd? I always saw him playing the observer and commenting on the happenings around him but trying to stay away from it all which he does. He doesn't like the game, he does not want to play despite the fact he'd be the Magic Johnson of THE GAME.

But then who else is left who could be important enough to play the 3rd?
Can only Targ's ride dragons? I mean there's no way to test it really

Jigorath said:
And then Ned comes back to life and rides a dragon too.
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Zombie Ned should have been a thing. Stark-Justice League. Undead Superman Ned, Psycho Batgirl Arya, Tree-Oracle Bran, Stoneheart Wonder Woman who has a noose instead of a lasso
 
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PhoenixDark

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Marz said:
I think in the history of westeros book, there's mention of non-targaryens riding dragons.
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Yea. Nettles apparently had no Targ blood. That story also described that anyone could lure a dragon with food, but obviously it's dangerous as fuck and rarely works; still it can work to tame a dragon for anyone.
 
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Massa

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The Smoking Bun said:
Dany & Jon (OMG! 5EVA!) seems a bit too obvious but most likely true as being two of the dragon heads or dragon riders. Why Tyrion as the 3rd? I always saw him playing the observer and commenting on the happenings around him but trying to stay away from it all which he does. He doesn't like the game, he does not want to play despite the fact he'd be the Magic Johnson of THE GAME.

But then who else is left who could be important enough to play the 3rd?
Can only Targ's ride dragons? I mean there's no way to test it really



Zombie Ned should have been a thing. Stark-Justice League. Undead Superman Ned, Psycho Batgirl Arya, Tree-Oracle Bran, Stoneheart Wonder Woman who has a noose instead of a lasso
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I think Bran is supposed to control a dragon at some point.
 
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Brashnir

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The Smoking Bun said:
Dany & Jon (OMG! 5EVA!) seems a bit too obvious but most likely true as being two of the dragon heads or dragon riders. Why Tyrion as the 3rd? I always saw him playing the observer and commenting on the happenings around him but trying to stay away from it all which he does. He doesn't like the game, he does not want to play despite the fact he'd be the Magic Johnson of THE GAME.

But then who else is left who could be important enough to play the 3rd?
Can only Targ's ride dragons? I mean there's no way to test it really
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Bran. He doesn't ride the dragon, he is the dragon.

edit - beaten to the punch.
 
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NeoGiff

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I jumped the gun before. The state of this thread right now has me like

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Tr1Cky_Tr33

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Massa said:
I think Bran is supposed to control a dragon at some point.
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I’m just putting my crackpot idea about a fourth dragon and if it ever comes true it’s down for proof….

The Telltale game (which is meant to be canon) talks about Ice Dragon(s) north of the wall and there was also that kid’s book GRRM wrote about it. Viserion and Rhaegal die and Bran wargs into the Ice Dragon. Drogon and new dragon = Fire & Ice
 
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Iksenpets said:
http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/game-of-thrones-ending-season-5-producers-interview-1201469516/

Speaking of this, a new second interview where they say season 5 is "very much within the books for the most part". They also say the final scene is a book scene.

So that's gotta be either Dany in the desert, Kevan's assassination, or Jon's.
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They brought back Kevan how had been MIA since Season 2.

They're gonna kill him.

It would be a boneheaded move if the season ends with Jon's death.
 
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Partition

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Tr1Cky_Tr33 said:
I’m just putting my crackpot idea about a fourth dragon and if it ever comes true it’s down for proof….

The Telltale game (which is meant to be canon) talks about Ice Dragon(s) north of the wall and there was also that kid’s book GRRM wrote about it. Viserion and Rhaegal die and Bran wargs into the Ice Dragon. Drogon and new dragon = Fire & Ice
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As someone who has played all three episodes, there is no reference to an ice dragon in them, unless I missed something. They talk heavily of this "north grove" place north of the wall, and the last episode is titled "The Ice Dragon" but that's about it.
 
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Tr1Cky_Tr33 said:
I’m just putting my crackpot idea about a fourth dragon and if it ever comes true it’s down for proof….

The Telltale game (which is meant to be canon) talks about Ice Dragon(s) north of the wall and there was also that kid’s book GRRM wrote about it. Viserion and Rhaegal die and Bran wargs into the Ice Dragon. Drogon and new dragon = Fire & Ice
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There's an Ice Dragon sleeping within the wall.
 
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Brakke

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Speaking of a fine Bowl O' Brown, I wonder if we'll ever see Gendey ever again. I doubt it, for sure, but it was crazy how much time they put into Gendry and The Brotherhood to then just totally drop them.
 
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PhoenixDark

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Ice dragons are canon in ASOIAF. Jon Snow remembers Old Nan telling stories about them.

I agree that the introduction of another fully grown dragon would be cheap. Especially if it's one from the Princess & The Queen story. That would essentially be a retcon to me. I could at least tolerate an ice dragon in the Land Of Always Winter though, simply because I can "buy" just about anything existing there.

There could very easily be dragons elsewhere in the world, given how little of the globe we've actually seen. But to introduce a new one would be a bad look IMO.
 
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The Smoking Bun

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Brakke said:
Speaking of a fine Bowl O' Brown, I wonder if we'll ever see Gendey ever again. I doubt it, for sure, but it was crazy how much time they put into Gendry and The Brotherhood to then just totally drop them.
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I really want George to pull a fast one and turn the last two books into The Gendry Show
But I suppose the show writers would already be aware of that right?

Brotherhood was such a waste, Stoneheart would have been the revenge fans have been demanding. Also, Warg Arya but we still may get that
 
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Massa

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The Smoking Bun said:
I really want George to pull a fast one and turn the last two books into The Gendry Show
But I suppose the show writers would already be aware of that right?

Brotherhood was such a waste, Stoneheart would have been the revenge fans have been demanding. Also, Warg Arya but we still may get that
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Stoneheart doesn't feel like revenge at all imo, I'd go between tragic and just plain stupid.
 
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badcrumble

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The Smoking Bun said:
I really want George to pull a fast one and turn the last two books into The Gendry Show
But I suppose the show writers would already be aware of that right?

Brotherhood was such a waste, Stoneheart would have been the revenge fans have been demanding. Also, Warg Arya but we still may get that
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Revenge on whom? Jaime?

Part of the whole point of the series is a constant refusal of traditional symmetrical narratives. Like, I don't think we're going to see Lady Stoneheart kill off the Boltons anytime soon.
 
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BobTheFork

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Since Berric passed on his 'flame' to LSH, I'm expecting her to do the same to awaken the Stone Dragon and THAT'S the dragon Bran can control. That should lead to a very poetic fight where Bran and Catlyn 'mind battle' each other for control of the Stone Dragon. Since it's just a 'mind battle' they could actually have a Ju-Jitsu fight inside the Stone Dragon's head with Bran breaking Cat's neck as she says "Promise me you will never fall again"

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Damn, I just got chills.
 
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The Smoking Bun

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badcrumble said:
Revenge on whom? Jaime?

Part of the whole point of the series is a constant refusal of traditional symmetrical narratives. Like, I don't think we're going to see Lady Stoneheart kill off the Boltons anytime soon.
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Well yes, I suppose you are correct. It's not like she's done any real damage so far
And I enjoy the refusal to follow certain narrative cliches no matter if some enjoy them

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DarknessInducedAudienceApathy

Does the above apply to Game of Thrones/ASOIAF? I wouldn't say Apathy is the term I'd use since there are multiple characters we enjoy following and would like to see "win" It's more, everyone dies as opposed to bad guys win.
 
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Brakke

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BobTheFork said:
Since Berric passed on his 'flame' to LSH, I'm expecting her to do the same to awaken the Stone Dragon and THAT'S the dragon Bran can control. That should lead to a very poetic fight where Bran and Catlyn 'mind battle' each other for control of the Stone Dragon. Since it's just a 'mind battle' they could actually have a Ju-Jitsu fight inside the Stone Dragon's head with Bran breaking Cat's neck as she says "Promise me you will never fall again".
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Game of Thrones The Animu Series maybe
 
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pieatorium

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badcrumble said:
Revenge on whom? Jaime?

Part of the whole point of the series is a constant refusal of traditional symmetrical narratives. Like, I don't think we're going to see Lady Stoneheart kill off the Boltons anytime soon.
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she already killed some freys. always thought stoneheart was lame, a zombie knight trying to fight for people is way more interesting than some vengeful undead thing.
 
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Kain

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The Smoking Bun said:
You joke but I have always said a 1:1 adaptation would have to be animated for budget reasons.
Just because it's animated doesn't mean we would end up with, "NOTICE ME JON SENPAI!" and Moe version of Sansa
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I'm seeing a tsundere Arya and an oblivious Jon. Dany is the foreign rich girl. Sam is transformed into the clumsy and adorable girl with huge tits.
 
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BobTheFork

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The Smoking Bun said:
You joke but I have always said a 1:1 adaptation would have to be animated for budget reasons.
Just because it's animated doesn't mean we would end up with, "NOTICE ME JON SENPAI!" and Moe version of Sansa
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But that's exactly what we would end up with. They don't ever have to animate crappy tropes but you still get them constantly. Maybe if HBO had an animated series...I remember that Spawn series that did being fun to watch for a few years.

Wylla thinks she's a great cook who makes wonderful Frey pies, but she's really terrible.
 
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bengraven said:
I don't think she'll go blind. In the books it was like one chapter that's it. How do you portray blindness on a show anyway? I suppose showing her eyes wide open then a POV of her with near darkness, but on this show it might be corny.
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I bet it's gonna happen. The brief cliffhanger would be perfect for an episode ending. And her blindness could be shown by having all-white eyes, to parallel Bran's visions.
 
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Brakke

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The Smoking Bun said:
You joke but I have always said a 1:1 adaptation would have to be animated for budget reasons.
Just because it's animated doesn't mean we would end up with, "NOTICE ME JON SENPAI!" and Moe version of Sansa
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Not trusting you on matters of animated anything tbh
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BobTheFork said:
lol and here I thought the GiantBomb thread was Gaf's 'bowl of brown'
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I'd rather watch Jon-senpai not notice Dany-kun than eat nach-o-reos.
 
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Speevy said:
Dany is best when she plays a smart and charming woman, but when she tries to be authoritative, she either badly overacts or gives a completely laughable presence.

I would certainly yield to anyone with a huge army behind them, but Emilia Clarke's portrayal lacks what is necessary to bring her character into what it will be in the end game.

I have an even crazier tinfoil hat theory that they are turning Dany into the villain of the show so Jon will have someone to fight against in the end game.

However, I have no proof of that other than her losing all her power.
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It doesn't help that GRRM locked her in Mereen and turned her into Kristen Stewart.
 
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