Isn't it common for premiers to have higher ratings than successive episodes?
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Isn't it common for premiers to have higher ratings than successive episodes?
Yes, but not with such a significant decrease in viewership. Everything should be back to normal by episode 5.
bodyofanamerican
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m_shortpants
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I'm guessing it's going to be the scene with Fake Arya, if that's happening. I remember in the books it was even implied with dogs.
John Wick in Westeros confirmed.
Theon licking Sansa? Damn.
Steelyuhas
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Well, Sansa's replacing fArya, so...
Money's on this as well. Too much material for only 28 more hours.
Last season is presumably going to be WW. That means you have to wrap all of the other politics stuff in 18 episodes if you stick to seven seasons, and I don't see any possible way for that to happen.
gigantor21
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Oh, fuck. So that's why Sophie Turner said the same a few months back. -_-
Ok ,so i have been re watching the series and reading the threads of those and i really don't get why people called Shae's Actress horribly bad
while she 's on screen she never agravated or bore me to death or made my ears bleed
Ill agree she is not on " give that woman an Oscar ,stat " level but i would on the other hand never put her on " Wow , how did this woman pass Audition ? " level either
So what am i missing or not seeing or hearing ?
Hell , the only character who was utterly horrible in this show was that fat farmboy Arya stabbed back in season imo
while she 's on screen she never agravated or bore me to death or made my ears bleed
Ill agree she is not on " give that woman an Oscar ,stat " level but i would on the other hand never put her on " Wow , how did this woman pass Audition ? " level either
So what am i missing or not seeing or hearing ?
Hell , the only character who was utterly horrible in this show was that fat farmboy Arya stabbed back in season imo
Basileus777
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She also said it was a 6/10 compared to the Red Wedding. If it were that I think it'd rank higher...
adamsappel
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I think this has to go to Qyburn. Varys will be in Mereen by then.
Duane Cunningham
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I haven't been following closely enough, but I've seen people saying that in this thread for a couple of weeks... HOW is it we know this?
Newest episode:
LF:"My marriage proposal has been accepted."
Sansa: "But I thought you were mourning my great aunt lysa"
LF: *scheme face*
It HAS to be Sansa replacing fArya.
Dusk Soldier
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There are promotional shots of Sansa in what looks like Winterfell.
They also haven't cast a fake Arya yet as far as anyone can tell.
RatskyWatsky
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Time to wrap it up guys! Oh wait...
Look! The Pie!
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If this is what we think it is, then the controversy is going to absolutely eclipse the Jaime/Cersei rape scene. I don't want to believe D&D would actually go there.
bengraven
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Eh, that scene will be awful, but compared to everyone dying, yeah it's probably only a 6.
Now if they got the dogs involved then it's like a 9. Please don't get the dogs involved, D&D.
Basileus777
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I was thinking about the dogs. Without that, then yeah.
If it's just the licking, then it'll be rough, but the dogs would be *shudder*
What's awful is while I'm pretty confident they'd never make Sansa do the dogs, I could totally see them doing a Myranda and the dogs scene.
"That thing seems to be part of a storyline that will have them interacting with an unnamed main character. Both Allen and Rheon were excited to work with the new actor, with Allen calling it an "absolute joy." It doesn't sound like the onscreen storyline will be as joyful as the offscreen work was, though. "
How can it be Sansa as fArya if it's a "new actor"? I think you guys need a new theory.
I don't believe HBO would have the portrayal of a teenager, who happens to be a main character, being raped shown.
Not to mention that Sansa getting her wish of going home only to be victimized and assaulted inside Winterfell would be absolutely disgusting.
This infuriates me because it makes no sense. What can Littlefinger get by giving them Sansa? As soon as she marries Ramsay, she is no longer his property and the Boltons don't need Littlefinger. If Stannis invades Winterfell, who knows what'll happen to Sansa (in the books he refused to recognize Sansa as heir to Winterfell because she was married to Tyrion).
D&D should go fuck themselves if this actually happens, for no reason other than them finding Sansa's actual plot too boring for TV.
Sansa would be new in the sense that neither had worked with her before (I don't think Theon had any scenes with Sansa in S1)
Maybe. But I think it's more likely that it's an actual new actor and Sansa just witnesses this thing, whatever D&D make it out to be.
Oh no....Just after I typed this I imagined a situation where things go south. ^^^ this is happening and Ramsey is telling Sansa she's next. Then Breinne saves the day. I hope that doesn't happen.
Steelyuhas
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We don't know that Varys makes it to Meereen, Tyrion might get kidnapped by Jorah in Volantis just like the book.
The Smoking Bun
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You know I sometimes think the FArya stuff goes way too far. We have no need for it.
What's next? Westeros Human Centipede?
Liquidsnake
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What is fArya?
Fake Arya, a.k.a. Jeyne Poole.
Liquidsnake
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Whats the story behind this? A ploy to use her to gather the north to back................?
In the book? The Boltons use a Fake Arya to legitimize their hold on winterfell. In the show? Who knows.
Are you in the right thread?
I don't think you're in the right thread
Have you read the books?
Roose wants a fake arya so they have a "legitimate" reason to rule the north. Ramsay needs a new wife.
No Poole since S01, so yeah.
Memento Mori
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I refuse to believe they've done this.
The Smoking Bun
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But wouldn't that be perfect for a twist? Oh no! Poor little Jeyne Poole has been captured by the Boltons and is Ramsay's new play-mate/wife/victim. She and Theon/Reek could be buddies. I don't think it was possible to do a fake-out where the audience believed the Boltons had somehow captured Arya. But again, never liked the FArya stuff
Yes they may do it, controversy and debate of questionable scenes leads to higher ratings
Yeah that's possible
Well I think it's more of moving Sansa forward while still staying with the books for major points. D&D can't introduce Poole out of nowhere and bringing theon and Sansa together would be interesting.
PhoenixDark
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Dunno if it'll be Sansa, but I can imagine the show doing that scene.
bodyofanamerican
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Yep, this. I think whatever horrible thing it is, Sansa witnesses it, it isn't done to her. Bad shit happening to her yet again would be boring and contrary to her character arc.
The Smoking Bun
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Exactly, why would they victimize her when they are trying to play her off as Fem-Finger in training? Why would Littlefinger even take such a stupid risk? He'll lose Sansa who he actually has affection for as well as a potential asset to obtain the north. The Boltons don't play and they don't negotiate.
Those "Sansa Stark has entered the game" memes will become humorously obsolete if she just gets victimized again
PHOENIXZERO
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Yeah, making Sansa the victim of some sick shit is another possible "done" point with this show if they go that route. Never mind some really awful writing that would accompany it.
It wouldn't be the first time. Jaime raping Cersei was contrary to his character arc.
I believe this is going to happen.
If we're correct and the Sansa in Winterfell promo stuff means what we think it does, I think I now understand why a lot of weird decisions have been made in the past two seasons - it's the Riverlands material. We're actually seeing the adaptation here- the Riverlands material wasn't just cut- it was merged into the North and other storylines where possible. This is why we're seeing Jaime in Dorne, no LSH, and a potential Sansa/Ramsay pairing in place of fArya. The Sansa/Ramsay stuff doesn't make any sense in context of the Northern storylines in the book. But it makes complete sense in context of the Riverlands storyline. Consider the fan theories about how the Riverlands material is going to climax. And all of a sudden this makes total sense given the likely outcome, which can easily be ported over to the Northern region. Minus some delicious Frey pies, unfortunately.
I suspect they had not made this adaptation decision after season 3 was in the can, though, because too many decisions in season 3 are breadcrumbs heading in that direction. Bran's vision with Catelyn's neck wrapped, the scene with Arya/Beric, Blackfish surviving- these are all things you likely do differently if you know that materials being merged into other story arcs.
That was a production screw-up where they managed to just completely botch the scene.
How's about Arya treating the Hound's wounds and caring for him on an arc where she turned into a cold emotionless being who hates the Hound and shows him no mercy two episodes later?
The Smoking Bun
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Mixed messages? Arya was emotional? She sort of cares in a "You're a good doggy who keeps me safe" kind of way?
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