She could have sat the season out like Bran.
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She could have sat the season out like Bran.
m_shortpants
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oh shiet are they gonna remove his face?
cartoon_soldier
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Or neither is neither since nothing has happened beyond the proposal. All we are doing is imagining how it will play out.
You assume they'll even end up together, I doubt they will
Late Edit: I'll be damned, she got there this episode lol. Well nevermind then!
Just like Bran.
Same here. I can be a bit of a source material purist but when it comes to the later half of ASOIAF i'm not nearly as tied to it and open to good changes. People need to chill.
Of the two, Ramsay actually has a parent trying to keep him in check, so it's probably an upgrade.
I don't think he's getting to his wedding night, though.
Or done anything but marry Ramsay.
KingHenrik30
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Is it an adaptation anymore? Certainly doesn't seem like it. Adaptations at least try to stick as close as possible to the source material, not throw a grenade into the middle of it. This is an adaptation like Super Mario Bros. was an adaptation at this point.
cartoon_soldier
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It's a TV show. While GRRM can just leave out characters for a whole book, TV show isn't going to leave out one of it's main cast members.
WyndhamPrice
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Bran's story is so divorced from any current events in the show that's okay for him to go away for a while. Sansa isn't.
...No they don't? They present the same story in a way that is appropriate for the needs of the medium.
A lot of you are really jumping to conclusions like there's only one or two ways this could play out. You don't even know how the original source material ends.
m_shortpants
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she actually curtsied to the dude. wow.
also, ramsay's jealous GF is totally gonna do something.
also, ramsay's jealous GF is totally gonna do something.
badcrumble
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Sorry, Ramsay can't be manipulated in the books? That's news to me.
m_shortpants
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"FETCH ME A BLOCK" PLESAE DO IT
smokeandmirrors
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Yeah I'm generally good with changes and most of what they do but this whole Sansa and Ramsay thing seems so fucking unnecessary other than "what crazy shit can we do this season?"
Atraveller
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Beheading scene botched, how is that even possible?
By a pretty girl, no.
smokeandmirrors
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HERE WE GO
"bring me my sword"? :\
"bring me my sword"? :\
Stannis Nod in 3...2...
badcrumble
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She's gonna Reverse Red Wedding the Boltons, man. She's taking over for Wyman Manderly.
And Littlefinger has successfully played the Boltons in the books by using Jeyne Poole. Here he's playing them by using Sansa.
m_shortpants
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they didn't do it, DAMMIT
they better not fuck up the nod
they better not fuck up the nod
Atraveller
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Meh
Jibbajabbawockky
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The nod! Sort of.
You know what the Stannis Nod makes up for all my feelings about these recent changes. It was glorious.
How? The Boltons know she is a fake, that was the whole reason Theon was present.
How? The Boltons know she is a fake, that was the whole reason Theon was present.
m_shortpants
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well, i think he kind of nodded
-Pyromaniac-
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Book readers always create epic fantasies in their heads about the simplest things. It wasnt gonna be some campy cheesy ass giant head nod.
That was a nod.
That was a nod.
KingHenrik30
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When they start making changes that just don't make sense, then it stops becoming an adaptation. I don't have any problem with scaling down things, cutting out certain characters (Belwas, ect) or slight changes to make a TV narrative work. When they start cutting out major point of view characters, make the characters do things they would never do, fuck with the world, then its no longer an adaptation. Sansa is in the North? There is no way that that news wouldn't get to Cersei who would then lay siege on Winterfell. Little finger would NEVER take her out of the Erie.
Sansa's material is a hybrid of the Riverlands material along with her Book 6 stuff. It's an adaptation choice to condense the storylines. No LSH, Jaime in Dorne, and Sansa/Ramsay are all a result of that region being removed.
David Incorporated Esq.
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Pycell with that defense.
badcrumble
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But they don't know that Littlefinger's got a real Stark and can pull the rug out from under them anytime. He's made them feel secure in their power over the North when they are about as far from secure as you can get.
I wouldn't even be surprised to learn that he's working with Manderly in the books tbh, and that the Davos thing is actually all about a fool's mission intended to separate the lone voice of reason from Stannis.
And yeah guys, Stannis is like the least expressive person ever. Any nod from him is gonna be the slightest of movements, especially with someone he's still pissed off at for other reasons. Dude appreciates another hard-nosed legalist when he sees one.
Veerrrrry curious to see how the Winterfell business plays out. It's pretty clear that that's getting nearly as much of a revamp as Dorne is.
What?! I thought it was fucking awesome, even better than I imagined in the books. I'm gonna Gif that shit right now.
Crimson_Gold
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Please do. I need that for future use
m_shortpants
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Yeah it was pretty good. Accomplished well I thought.
smokeandmirrors
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ferreal that was the best nod you'd get from a character like stannis the mannis. perfect nod.
KingHenrik30
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Well we know for damn sure Littlefinger would never let her leave the Erie since he's masquerading her around as his bastard daughter Alyane Stone, and that he's keeping it a secret that she is alive so, how does this adaptation choice make sense?
If her plotline had reached where it was in the books, then (a) do the book story or (b) don't blow through her entire AFFC story in one scene. The writers did this because they wanted to, not because they'd run out of story (they intentionally dispensed with that stuff).
As for why people don't like this, I should think the reason why people would be alarmed about Sansa being subbed for Jeyne Poole would be obvious, namely, that Jeyne's entire arc is being raped and tortured, and the interviews the actors have given strongly suggest similar things are in store.
badcrumble
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We'll have to see. I think there are a lot of things that are kinda fuzzy about the choice, but I'm sure the writers are aware of that and will come up with a justification. We'll have to see how good that justification is.
I'm a bit concerned about Littlefinger revealing Sansa because of the potential Lannister problems, not to mention the Boltons marrying a real Stark for the same reason (IIRC, in the books, Tywin was in on the fArya plan - he wanted to wipe the Stark bloodline out, Reynes of Castamere style, and that was a good way of doing it while keeping the peace - it's not just a risk to Sansa, but to the Boltons' greatest political patron).
m_shortpants
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lolll they're making it so obvious. then again I guess it wasn't all that subtle in the books.
The "Queen in the North!" endgame is almost certainly the same in both versions- how we get to it is what's changing, and they're choosing a much, much more direct path.
Red Wedding 2: Electric Boogaloo is totally happening.
And a much dumber one.
badcrumble
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Yeah, this.
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