cartoon_soldier
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Clarke has been fine at times. I thought she was great in the Yunkai freeing arc.
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Yes... "changes." :lol
Sansa gonna get brutally raped. I wonder if Ramsey will make Reek go down on her like in the book LOL.
She's pretty decent half the time and has pulled off some of the more important scenes. I liked her in Season 1 & 3 the most. But at her worst she becomes embarrassing to watch.
His one face expression is mopey puppy. He's boring at best.
cartoon_soldier
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She is good when she is the conqueror. Sucks when she is the ruler.
Just according to keikaku
Moff
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I agree that clarke is probably the biggest acting "problem" of the show. however I'm not really sure if her role really demands more at the moment. I was actually hoping they would rewrite her for seaon 5 and make her more mature than in the books, but they didn't. I hope she will mature and we'll see how clarke pulls it off.
KingHenrik30
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Every thing these 2 morons do is with a eye towards "revenge" - Needle (according to them), This new Sansa atrocity, ect. With that being said, it's hilarious that they cut out the most revenge forward character in the entire book series.
Woody Invincible
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Yeah, Kit's got the acting chops now. He has improved immensely over the seasons.
Woody Invincible
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Cpt.Underpants
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I was just praising Ewan's performance as Ramsay.
The guy had this face like he always does when he was conversing with his Father (Roose) right after skinning a couple of people then fast forward to meeting Sansa and he puts a facade of a comely guy
The guy had this face like he always does when he was conversing with his Father (Roose) right after skinning a couple of people then fast forward to meeting Sansa and he puts a facade of a comely guy
Discotheque
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ramsay snow reminds me a lot of smeagol appearance-wise.
eot
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I don't think Arya's actor comes close to rating with the other ones you mentioned.
Ganzlinger
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I always dislked Harrington's performance. But he is doing good so far this season.
My show watcher friends keep asking me what Daenarys is still doing in Essos. I used to think the same thing when I hadn't read the books yet. Probably the worst storyline from the books for me is coming up for her. I'm just glad it seems like they'll end her arc this season on Drogon coming again but flying off with her this time when the Pits are opened.
Maybe I should change my name to "NeoGriff the Scapegoat". I make no apology for resurrecting this from a million pages back!
Mine was actually relevant, you sons of harpies.
PhoenixDark
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Interesting seeing non book readers immediately pick up on the comparisons in leadership between Jon, Dany, and Cersei. They're really the main characters of the AFFC/ADWD act, they have the most chapters, and each arc is a different take on ruling . Each fail the game to varying degrees. At the start of ADWD it seemed like Jon was on quite a roll, only to be undone by the wildling issue (not to mention sending his most loyal men away). Seems pretty clear Ollie and perhaps Thorne will betray him.
The only thing that I didn't really like here was the old lady's "The North Remembers", just because that's such a big book moment, turned into such a quiet little thing. I hope they're going to keep building on it so we can get something as cool as the Manderly scene later on.
Other than that it's all fine. I don't even think the changes are that drastic. Jaime, Sansa, and Brienne have been rewritten, but we all knew that at the very least Brienne and Sansa's plots in the book were unfilmably dull, so there were going to be changes. And the Jaime rewrite makes sense given how comparatively little the show is invested in Riverrun. Now sure, I wasn't expecting the changes to include Ramsay marrying Sansa, but it works. Littlefinger is still plotting a marriage that will let him use Sansa as the key to the North, and Roose is still plotting a marriage to get the Stark name and legitimacy. The details of the plan are definitely shaky, but once Littlefinger leaves and we can get past that I think it should be easier to accept, so long as they don't do anything overly horrible to Sansa.
Overall though, even though this has very few direct book scenes, it still pretty much feels like Feast and Dance.
Other than that it's all fine. I don't even think the changes are that drastic. Jaime, Sansa, and Brienne have been rewritten, but we all knew that at the very least Brienne and Sansa's plots in the book were unfilmably dull, so there were going to be changes. And the Jaime rewrite makes sense given how comparatively little the show is invested in Riverrun. Now sure, I wasn't expecting the changes to include Ramsay marrying Sansa, but it works. Littlefinger is still plotting a marriage that will let him use Sansa as the key to the North, and Roose is still plotting a marriage to get the Stark name and legitimacy. The details of the plan are definitely shaky, but once Littlefinger leaves and we can get past that I think it should be easier to accept, so long as they don't do anything overly horrible to Sansa.
Overall though, even though this has very few direct book scenes, it still pretty much feels like Feast and Dance.
cartoon_soldier
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CrocMother
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So is theons sis going to join the winter fell party?
ToyMachine228
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I find it odd that people are complaining about some of the show plots and the acting of many series veterans but very few people are talking about how everything that's been shown or previewed of Dorne so far looks putrid. From Ellaria's horribly forced angry persona (and hair cut to go along with it) to the Sand Snakes' costumes. That to me, is by far the weakest looking link in the season thus far. Things could unfold and prove me wrong, and I hope they do, but so far its looking like too little too late.
Look at it from a show watcher standpoint. Five seasons in and we're getting an entirely new plot introduced. In the books it worked to some extent, but as far as the show goes, we're entering the end game and here we are with an entirely new plot and set of characters that thus far, don't look promising.
Look at it from a show watcher standpoint. Five seasons in and we're getting an entirely new plot introduced. In the books it worked to some extent, but as far as the show goes, we're entering the end game and here we are with an entirely new plot and set of characters that thus far, don't look promising.
TestOfTide
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I mean yeah, clearly sansa for now is going to take the place of a victim yet again, but that doesn't mean she can't be a player in the last two seasons, right?
Moff
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I hope she will play an important part in the bolton's downfall, as a player. It would be bad if this would turn out to be just filler content for her to replace a no name book character.
ToyMachine228
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I'm also surprised that many of you think Sansa will once again play the victim. She will surely be involved in some terrible things that are about to happen with the Boltons around, Stannis riding for Winterfell and Brienne about to come charging in, but all that said, I think Sansa is going to put on a much different face through it all. Instead of crying and playing the victim, she will put on a brave face and and play her new "role" before ultimately playing a huge role in overthrowing and getting brutal revenge against the Boltons.
The Snow/Slynt scene lost all of its impact without the "this is wrong" self deliberation. Edit: because it shows that at his roots he is a Stark and lives and dies by what his father taught him. It is a character-building moment that explains why he later does what he does. The way they made this scene - eh, throwaway.
Sansa marying Bolton? Wild departing from the books. Digging it.
Sansa marying Bolton? Wild departing from the books. Digging it.
Ahahahahahahaha so one of the most iconic moments of the books, "the north remembers" by the awesome Manderly, is ruined by a random woman in the worst possible plot ever conceived for the show. Now I know D&D are truly in charge.
At least the execution was well done. Kit is getting better, and better at being Jon Snow.
At least the execution was well done. Kit is getting better, and better at being Jon Snow.
PhoenixDark
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To be fair we don't know whether a bannerman will take Manderly's place. There were rumors that the Greatjon was coming back but apparently that's not true.
Moff
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eeeh, absolutely nothing in AFFC/ADWD comes close to being among the most iconic moments of the books, not even daznak's pit.
and I actually think it was pretty good that "the north remembers" is mentioned by a peasant/servant, it gave me the chills actually and I don't see how anything is ruined. I am sure it's not the last time we heard it.
and I actually think it was pretty good that "the north remembers" is mentioned by a peasant/servant, it gave me the chills actually and I don't see how anything is ruined. I am sure it's not the last time we heard it.
TestOfTide
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I would be really happy if Sansa kills ramsay and then says "the north remembers".
I have a feeling that the northern banner men will rise up in season 6.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
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I'm pretty sure she is in some way.
I've always felt his weak acting earlier on has more to with the shit material he was given than lack of skill. For the first few seasons most of his scenes were either get yelled at and stand there and lack stupid, or get made fun of and stand there and look stupid. He did fine in the few scenes he had that weren't like that.
I'd agree with this, with the one exception of the scene last night where she contemplated ditching Needle.
Theon's episodes, the Davos' one when Manderly says this, the walk of atonement, Jon's fake death, the epilogue... there are pretty great moments in ADWD for all the hate it gets.
In a AFFC all I can think is the letter burning and maybe the Kingsmoot once Euron owns the place.
eot
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She's better in scenes where she doesn't have to talk
We haven't seen enough of Dorne/Sand Snakes to complain about. Wait until next week.
The Dorne plot doesn't work in the books; here's hoping Jamie and Bronn can save it.
BobTheFork
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I've been liking the 'no fakes' policy of the show,
No fake-Hound, it's the Hound
No fake-Sansa, it's Sansa
No Fake-Arya
It's fine to me. No liking the changes is fine, but some people are starting to complain about where they think this is going before it happens.
No fake-Hound, it's the Hound
No fake-Sansa, it's Sansa
No Fake-Arya
It's fine to me. No liking the changes is fine, but some people are starting to complain about where they think this is going before it happens.
They used music and visual cues (thumping block of wood) to make the connection between Jon and his Starkness. The unsullied picked it up quite easily.
eot
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Not sure what you're referring to with these two lines. Gravedigger and Alayne?
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
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Off-camera audio wasn't enough. The exposition in the books mattered a lot for that scene.
CrocMother
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"She's a virgin inspect her if you wish"
Ehh she just rode from the Vale to Winterfell on horseback Baelish not sure that's going to indicate much lol
Ehh she just rode from the Vale to Winterfell on horseback Baelish not sure that's going to indicate much lol
5th season is keeping pace with the 5th book quite nicely, by being boring as fuuuuck.
You guys really griping about Clarke's acting after an ep she doesn't even appear in?
Yeah that was my read. I sort of expect "the north remembers" being whispered here and there as Sansa needs a bolster until it culminates in someone saying it right before popping off a Bolton head. Would be a great line to crescendo throughout. Even without that, though, I thought it was good nod to readers. Sansa on this crazy mission needs some reason to believe she still has power / influence, that playing the Stark card is a worthwhile thing to do. Readers know The North Remembers carries weight of vicious retribution, deploying it here should give us reason to be excited about the Stark in Winterfell. (Even though I always dismiss Sansa as a Stark; her direwolf is dead, what kind of Stark is she, really?)
Yeah that was my read. I sort of expect "the north remembers" being whispered here and there as Sansa needs a bolster until it culminates in someone saying it right before popping off a Bolton head. Would be a great line to crescendo throughout. Even without that, though, I thought it was good nod to readers. Sansa on this crazy mission needs some reason to believe she still has power / influence, that playing the Stark card is a worthwhile thing to do. Readers know The North Remembers carries weight of vicious retribution, deploying it here should give us reason to be excited about the Stark in Winterfell. (Even though I always dismiss Sansa as a Stark; her direwolf is dead, what kind of Stark is she, really?)
You mean that 20 minute trip? At least I'm assuming it's that short seeing as how quickly the messenger from the Vale made the trip with the note from Cersei.
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