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[The Albatross]

I'm quite enjoying the show. The last two books were awful so any cuts the show makes can probably only improve the overall story.

This is my position too.

I think the show is doing it better than the books by making it a more concise story with a driven plot involving characters you care about, instead of introducing characters you've never heard of or not using characters that you want the books to use. Books 4 and 5, in my opinion, were bad books with lousy stories, but because I loved books 1 - 3 so much, I wanted to read them. By the end of book 5 I realized we were further from any "resolution" to the story than we'd ever been before previously, with nearly a dozen stories that were seemingly moving further away from one another, so I'm pleased that the show had decided to stay on point and driven, even though it is changing stories.

The Sansa storyline, IMO, is an example of the show doing it better than the books.

 

[KingHenrik30]

http://gotgifsandmusings.tumblr.com/post/115991793402/unabashed-book-snobbery-gots-10-worst

Not sure if this has been posted here before, but this list pretty much sums up my thoughts on the series "adaptation"

 

[PHOENIXZERO]

Like I said last year, when they recast and aged up Tommen and already gave him Ser Pounce that they were going to make Tommen more interest in Margery's "Lady Whiskers" no surprise they've gone this route, it was pretty clear... Now if only he didn't still seem to have the mental capacity of an eight year old.

Well considering the source material and the shows penchant for unnecessary nudity, I sure hope it's not because Sophie Turner turned 18 and is able to show her tits on film, finally. What perfect timing it all is... give Sansa a major part just after the actor becomes a legal adult. If there was anything I'd be ok with the show changing it would be those scenes.


Still don't understand why LF gave Sansa up to the Boltons. Makes little sense.

Since the talk of this wedding thing came about and Sansa replacing Jeyne Poole that Dan and Dave and how much they love throwing in extra sex and nudity into the show that I wouldn't be surprised if they had her birthday marked on their calendar for that reason.

 

[Partition]

I don't see how this season is appreciably different from the first few episodes of most of the series. Season 1 is the only season that really had a strong clear narrative, every other one suffered from the same bouts of directionlessness. He's using the benefit of hindsight because he already knows where all the previous seasons ended up after all the build.

Yet book readers wanted more 'directionless' plots with Iron Islands and Dorne getting full treatments. The show is already too convoluted for casual watchers, you can tell by how there is a Previously On GoT intro now. They would need like 15 episode seasons to make including everything work.

 

[Kain]

http://gotgifsandmusings.tumblr.com/post/115991793402/unabashed-book-snobbery-gots-10-worst

Not sure if this has been posted here before, but this list pretty much sums up my thoughts on the series "adaptation"

I totally agree Cersei and Tyrion are different characters in the show. Not necessarily worse, but different.

 

[eot]

you really like keeping faegon would have helped? I very much disagree. I think D&D change so much because that aimlessness is exactly what they want to avoid for the show, which is why they are bringing characters together early.

Maybe not, but it would be a big reveal early on in the season and knowing that there's a sizeable Targaryen loyal army poised to invade Westeros gives a different context to the ruling missteps in King's Landing.

 

[BrightLightLava]

http://gotgifsandmusings.tumblr.com/post/115991793402/unabashed-book-snobbery-gots-10-worst

Not sure if this has been posted here before, but this list pretty much sums up my thoughts on the series "adaptation"

Every time they called Show-Cersei "Carol" I laughed a little.

I think the House of Black and White might be the first time that the version in my head was grander than the version we got in the show. My imagination is usually light on detail (that sounds sad when I write it, doesn't it? :/) but I saw the room with the fountain and the different Gods as being much more of an indoor garden, with hidden nooks and crannies. A place where you'd really have to go looking for the dead bodies. I don't know if it was described that way, or if it was just me.

 

[eot]

http://gotgifsandmusings.tumblr.com/post/115991793402/unabashed-book-snobbery-gots-10-worst

Not sure if this has been posted here before, but this list pretty much sums up my thoughts on the series "adaptation"

Margaery can’t be a sixteen-year-old girl who, yeah, is a little snarky and not above scheming, but who essentially is a walking hymen that people trade around, while she gets to sit in a place heavily associated with three women who were literally locked up for ten years so people wouldn’t be tempted by the sight of them, while she makes a performance of idealized maidenhood.

What's that in reference to?

 

[Kain]

What's that in reference to?

I would guess the sisters of Baelor the blessed.

 

[Pyramid head]

I think the House of Black and White might be the first time that the version in my head was grander than the version we got in the show./QUOTE]
Haha, when you read Bran meeting the 3 eyed crow, were you just picturing a dude sitting on a chair in a little cupboard under the tree? I cant even imagine smaller than what was on screen.

 

[Patriots7]

http://gotgifsandmusings.tumblr.com/post/115991793402/unabashed-book-snobbery-gots-10-worst

Not sure if this has been posted here before, but this list pretty much sums up my thoughts on the series "adaptation"

Carol!

That was great.

I do have to say I really wish we see a downfall of Margaery, Natalie Dormer killed it in S2 of The Tudors before her be heading.

 

[BrightLightLava]

Haha, when you read Bran meeting the 3 eyed crow, were you just picturing a dude sitting on a chair in a little cupboard under the tree? I cant even imagine smaller than what was on screen.

Hahhah, not completely because he described that pretty well. What I mostly meant was that I don't mentally embellish. I don't fill in people walking around in the background or throw up art on the walls or anything like that.

I've got imagination tunnel vision.

 

[The Albatross]

Maybe not, but it would be a big reveal early on in the season and knowing that there's a sizeable Targaryen loyal army poised to invade Westeros gives a different context to the ruling missteps in King's Landing.

A problem with this in the books and the show is that the "sizeable Targaryen army" has been a storyline since Episode 1 / Chapter 1-5 of GoT, and it's never happened and has no evidence in either book or show of happening other than that we just assume "this has to happen." When everybody first reads Game of Thrones (maybe not now that it's so well known), there is an assumption that Dany and her brother are preparing for an attack on Westeros, which you just assume is that the end of the book is going to be about, and, well, 5,000 pages later, Dany is actually further away from that reality than she was (seemingly) in the first 50 pages of GoT.

The faegon storyline is one thing for a book that you're already invested in (I still dislike it), but people are much less invested in a TV show to have that sort of "this massive game changing character has been around all along, surprise!!" Even in the books, it's like "Okay, so Aegon has been introduced..." and the massive Targaryen army (something we've heard about since Book 1) does not seem any closer to mounting an attack on Westeros.

 

[Purkake4]

That "Cunt!" from Arya was pretty amazing.

 

[CoolOff]

I found a gif of a young Emilia Clarke.

 

[Massa]

Goddamn

Did you say burned?

Probably the best scene in the series.

 

[Steelyuhas]

408 is titled "Hardhome"

HBO PR release on the May episodes (44-48)

 

[Memento Mori]

408 is titled "Hardhome"

HBO PR release on the May episodes (44-48)

That episode summary for 4x07:

Spoiler

Stannis (Stephen Dillane) remains stubborn

Ha.

 

[hydrophilic attack]

Hm, this episode was actually not so bad. I'm interested in seeing where they go with the Sansa storyline. I hope she gets to have some agency in her story, and not just used as a damsel for Brienne and/or Jon.

The only things I didn't like was Olly (fuck he's annoying) and the last scene with Tyrion in the brothel. I realize they have to keep him likeable, so they don't want him raping a slave girl, but that moment is supposed to be when he hits rock bottom. Him sweet-talking that girl into actually wanting to go with him doesn't have the same impact. I guess it may be wise to tone down the sexual violence in the more visual TV medium.

 

[bodyofanamerican]

That episode summary for 4x07:

Spoiler

Stannis (Stephen Dillane) remains stubborn

Ha.

 

[Incandenza]

Sounds like

Spoiler

Bronn bites it in episode 6

from that description.

 

[The Albatross]

Any significance to the three babes that Reek/Theon focuses in on in Winterfell? They seemed really out of place, and the book reader in me would think "Oh, these are Mance's girls..." but then you remember that storyline likely isn't happening.

So who were these babes that seemed remarkably out of place in Winterfell? ANy significance?

 

[-griffy-]

Any significance to the three babes that Reek/Theon focuses in on in Winterfell? They seemed really out of place, and the book reader in me would think "Oh, these are Mance's girls..." but then you remember that storyline likely isn't happening.

So who were these babes that seemed remarkably out of place in Winterfell? ANy significance?

I don't think it was Reek focusing on them so much as the camera focusing on the one girl in the foreground, who was watching Ramsay greet Sansa and not looking pleased. This is Myranda, the girl we've previously seen hanging out with Ramsay and doing nasty things with him. She seems to be jealous of Sansa.

 

[hydrophilic attack]

I don't think it was Reek focusing on them so much as the camera focusing on the one girl in the foreground, who was watching Ramsay greet Sansa and not looking pleased. This is Myranda, the girl we've previously seen hanging out with Ramsay and doing nasty things with him. She seems to be jealous of Sansa.

Yup, they're probably setting up a jealousy plot between Myranda and Sansa.

But I just had an idea that would be way cooler. Would be cool if Myranda had been working with Littlefinger all along, and she helps Sansa bring the Boltons down. Not likely at all, I know.

 

[Enosh]

Any significance to the three babes that Reek/Theon focuses in on in Winterfell? They seemed really out of place, and the book reader in me would think "Oh, these are Mance's girls..." but then you remember that storyline likely isn't happening.

So who were these babes that seemed remarkably out of place in Winterfell? ANy significance?

kinda his "girlfriends" iirc

 

[-griffy-]

Yup, they're probably setting up a jealousy plot between Myranda and Sansa.

But I just had an idea that would be way cooler. Would be cool if Myranda had been working with Littlefinger all along, and she helps Sansa bring the Boltons down. Not likely at all, I know.

I'm more and more thinking she's gonna pose a danger to Sansa, and combined with Ramsay's frustration at not being able to adequately "play" with Sansa due to what's on the line with their marriage, Ramsay is gonna take things out on Myranda and force Sansa to participate. Which is what the

Spoiler

"traumatic" Sansa scene that Ramsay's actor had trouble with

is actually going to be.

 

[hydrophilic attack]

I'm more and more thinking she's gonna pose a danger to Sansa, and combined with Ramsay's frustration at not being able to adequately "play" with Sansa due to what's on the line with their marriage, Ramsay is gonna take things out on Myranda and force Sansa to participate. Which is what the

Spoiler

"traumatic" Sansa scene that Ramsay's actor had trouble with

is actually going to be.

Yes, that's what I'm expecting too.

 

[hoos30]

I'm more and more thinking she's gonna pose a danger to Sansa, and combined with Ramsay's frustration at not being able to adequately "play" with Sansa due to what's on the line with their marriage, Ramsay is gonna take things out on Myranda and force Sansa to participate. Which is what the

Spoiler

"traumatic" Sansa scene that Ramsay's actor had trouble with

is actually going to be.

Winner, chicken dinner. This is my guess too.

 

[hoos30]

Hm, this episode was actually not so bad. I'm interested in seeing where they go with the Sansa storyline. I hope she gets to have some agency in her story, and not just used as a damsel for Brienne and/or Jon.

The only things I didn't like was Olly (fuck he's annoying) and the last scene with Tyrion in the brothel. I realize they have to keep him likeable, so they don't want him raping a slave girl, but that moment is supposed to be when he hits rock bottom. Him sweet-talking that girl into actually wanting to go with him doesn't have the same impact. I guess it may be wise to tone down the sexual violence in the more visual TV medium.

Show-Tyrion is pretty rock bottom at this point. Do we really need to see more?

 

[Speevy]

Those episode descriptions make episodes 5-8 sound pretty tame, but they're also very vague. Episode 9 is almost certainly going to be either "For the Watch" or "Walk of Atonement".

 

[Paganmoon]

Do you want me to begin preparing you a big feast of crow now, or would you rather do it yourself once the truth is out?

I guess I'll have that crow now... still a stupid fucking storyline.

Also, are they trying to make Cersei more sympathetic or something?

 

[Speevy]

I found a gif of a young Emilia Clarke.

This little girl can probably act better.

 

[Purkake4]

I don't think it was Reek focusing on them so much as the camera focusing on the one girl in the foreground, who was watching Ramsay greet Sansa and not looking pleased. This is Myranda, the girl we've previously seen hanging out with Ramsay and doing nasty things with him. She seems to be jealous of Sansa.

Britta?

 

[Lothar]

I'm more and more thinking she's gonna pose a danger to Sansa, and combined with Ramsay's frustration at not being able to adequately "play" with Sansa due to what's on the line with their marriage, Ramsay is gonna take things out on Myranda and force Sansa to participate. Which is what the

Spoiler

"traumatic" Sansa scene that Ramsay's actor had trouble with

is actually going to be.

If they're using Myranda in the place of Jeyne Poole in that scene, why would we give a shit about what happens to Myranda? She's been portrayed as one dimensionally evil. Those chapters were horrifying in the book because Ramsey was doing that to an ordinary girl.

 

[Moff]

Those episode descriptions make episodes 5-8 sound pretty tame, but they're also very vague. Episode 9 is almost certainly going to be either "For the Watch" or "Walk of Atonement".

well if that rumour about hardhome is true episode 8 will be amazing. I expect episode 9 to end with daznak's pit so we can see some dany in the finale

 

[GentlemanCrow]

So weird seeing Dance scenes being adapted so soon after the books...

 

[-griffy-]

If they're using Myranda in the place of Jeyne Poole in that scene, why would we give a shit about what happens to Myranda? She's been portrayed as one dimensionally evil. Those chapters were horrifying in the book because Ramsey was doing that to an ordinary girl.

It would be Sansa you give more of a shit about in that scenario, because she is being forced to do horrible things and realizing who Ramsay is. What is that going to do psychologically to Sansa? Is she going to be horrified when it's going down? Is she going to play the role of "Dark Sansa" and pretend like it's no big deal, only to be tortured by it later? Is this scenario even going to happen at all or is something entirely different going to happen? I don't know, and that's exciting to me.

 

[JeffZero]

5x03 was fantastic. Brought everyone at my get-together into agreement. I'm seeing even the most ardent anti-Jon holdouts coming around, now, too, which feels great since he's my favorite in the books.

Also makes the question of his fate loom ever-darker over my head. No one is going to see that coming.

 

[eot]

well if that rumour about hardhome is true episode 8 will be amazing. I expect episode 9 to end with daznak's pit so we can see some dany in the finale

See what? Her shitting?

ep 5

Spoiler

Jon (Kit Harington) recruits the help of an unexpected ally.
Tormund?

 

[Speevy]

There's already the (trailer scene) in which

Spoiler

Jaime is being led towards Doran by an armed escort

so I kind of figured (potential spoiler)

Spoiler

Bronn was dead the moment he set off on the journey.

 

[Moff]

See what? Her shitting?

well daznak's pit will definitely be an episode cliffhanger, but I expect jons stabbing to be in the final episode and episode 8s will be hardhome. so I guess episode 9 will end with daznak's pit and during episode 10 we will see her meet the dothraki, or whatever the show does with her after the pit.

 

[Count of Monte Sawed-Off]

See what? Her shitting?

ep 5

Spoiler

Jon (Kit Harington) recruits the help of an unexpected ally.
Tormund?

Spoiler

Unless Mance isn't really dead (he's dead), it's Tormund.

 

[Moff]

Spoiler

Unless Mance isn't really dead (he's dead), it's Tormund.

Spoiler

it's melisandre, they will create another shadow baby, looking like a direwolf, to go look for ghost, because he was nowhere to be seen this season

 

[Speevy]

I wish they had kept Ciaran Hinds instead of the guy playing Tormund Giantsbane. Hinds is a much better actor.

 

[Speevy]

If the lord of light gives you shadow twins, do you get to murder two people?

 

[JeffZero]

If the lord of light gives you shadow twins, do you get to murder two people?

Let's ask Brienne. She's the nutcase seeing shadow babies.

#Don'tBelieve

 

[Steelyuhas]

Season premiere has grossed 18.1 million viewers


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Spoiler

it's melisandre, they will create another shadow baby, looking like a direwolf, to go look for ghost, because he was nowhere to be seen this season

Ghost was in 501

 

[Count of Monte Sawed-Off]

Spoiler

it's melisandre, they will create another shadow baby, looking like a direwolf, to go look for ghost, because he was nowhere to be seen this season

What's a direwolf? Seems like something that may have been in this story.

 

[bengraven]

Let me jump in just say this:

I wonder if Sansa is going to be feeding anyone Frey pies. I would love that scene and then her screaming laughter as she reveals it to everyone and then we can reenact -griffy-'s avatar.

 

[Faddy]

I'm I crazy or was that Gendry who first points Cersei to the High Sparrow.

He has reached shore and converted!