Liquidsnake
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I have not read the books. Im just diving in.
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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 5 - Sundays on HBO
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I have not read the books. Im just diving in.
cj_iwakura
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You should. Well, at least read the first. That has the most important stuff, I think.
Well, you're a couple of seasons too late to be spoiled on anything. Just be glad you didn't drop by during season 3.
Liquidsnake
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My goal was to always go back and read everything once the show is over.
If this were Dexter she would end up liking Ramsay and they would form a psycho duo of lunatics killing everything in the North.
Holy shit, just got bad shivers writing that. The real psychopaths are the writers of Dexter's season 8 >_<
Ser Robert Strong is stupid even for a book with Zombie Cat and Lavarm. I hope he doesn't get to do anything because a Zombie Gregor would be too much for me.
badcrumble
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Yeah I wouldn't be remotely surprised to find out that there's a scene in which Ramsay kinda coerces Sansa into doing something horrible to Theon and she has to pretend to be into it to keep her cover up.
Atraveller
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I always thought the big skull belonged to one of those dead dwarves.
Yeah show-Doran mentions that King's Landing promised to send them The Mountain's head since he confessed to killing and raping Elia as he killed Oberyn.
It's not clear in the books if the head they send south is actually Gregor's but man I really hope so; headless Robert Strong is too silly to miss.
badcrumble
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If I recall correctly, Robert Strong isn't headless. Rather, he's got like eight dead prostitutes for a head.
Ah well at this point you might as well get reading considering how much the show is differing from the books.
badcrumble
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Not to mention 'everything' won't be written nor published yet by the time the show is over.
Introducing the Blackfish was worth it for the funeral raft scene alone.
Damn it Brutus.
PHOENIXZERO
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I guessed Lyanna was actually Jon's mother and Rhaegar his father from the first episode. *shrug* All those RPGs I've played are responsible for that I think. Only thing I wasn't sure of is if Rhaegar raped her or not.
He's not going to change it, he did an interview last year where this came up.
https://youtu.be/JQzCPf2NgwE?t=3m5s
I would have asked him for an autograph, and said "Could you make it out to Rhaegar Lyanna Jon? People call me RLJ for short."
Then look at him intently until he calls security to take me away.
What movie is this?
It looks like an episode from the Sharpe TV series.
Nah, show seems to have dropped this point. I doubt we'll ever hear about it again. I think the show is happy to leave that unresolved, and to let the average viewer just assume Jaime and Cersei really did it.
Didn't show have Littlefinger hold the knife up to Ned? I don't think the show watchers would have missed that.
biosnake20
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The feather in her hand looks like the one Robert put on Lyanna's statue in the crypts in Season 1.
That doesn't answer the question, after all he admitted to Cat and Ned the knife was his.
Chuckie
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Lmao. That would be awesome.
The whole headless thing (besides them sending the skull to Dorne is probably because of Brans vision:
At the moment it feels that they have drastically streamlined from the books without giving it focus. The depth in character and the sense of history you get from the books were always going to give way on TV, but I would want them to exchange that for more narrative momentum. It's still early days.
Atraveller
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I think we still have some time for ghost of Winterfell before things go down.
He's not going to rescue Sansa like he did Jeyne, even more so without Mance and with the presence of Brienne. He won't have that reunion with Asha either. Id be shocked if Sansa doesn't have his throat slit. He's just as reprehensible as Ramsay for her after betraying Rob, killing Bran and Rickon and burning Winterfell.
That last ep did cool work with Theon, I thought. Sort of a nice nod to the books, several of those Winterfell scenes framed around Theon observing other people interacting: like a POV character sort of thing. He didn't have any lines but the camera specifically followed him in a couple of shots.
It certainly looks like it. Good spot. And it'll be a great visual callback, too. That's an amazing shot of Sophie.
Alfie Allen is very underrated on the show. Theon's such a complex character that must be hard to translate to TV as a lot of it is his own internal struggles, but he pretty much nails it just by looking at his face. Look at the clips where he struggles with executing Ser Rodrik or hoisting the burnt bodies up and you can see the instant regret and fear.
I don't think so, one of my friends sniffed out that Lyanna is Jon's mother at the end of the second episode. There was all this talk about his mother and Ned's refusal to tell who she is, so he figured she must be someone important and not some random chick, at the same time there were countless mentions of Lyanna, hammering into the audience's heads that Ned had a sister and when Ned told Jon he was his "blood" it clicked for my friend, Jon was related to Ned but not his son, so he figured Lyanna was the mother and later when Robert had one of his "All Targaryen's must die!!!" rants he figured out the reason, Lyanna is the mother, Rhaegar is the father and Robert would have killed Jon if he found out. After watching Robert for some time he even mentioned that he wouldn't be surprised if Lyanna wasn't kidnapped but just wanted to get away from Robert who he described as a "fat, drunk, disgusting pig who no woman would like to be married to".
The hints are there and the show wasn't exactly subtle about his parentage coming into play later, as book readers we often only see the things that aren't in the show and ignore the stuff staring us right in the face. Rewatching the first few episodes there's an awful lot of "Lyanna this, Lyanna that", "honorable Ned Stark wouldn't cheat", "Who's Jon's mother?" etc., it's absolutely possible to figure R+L=J just by watching the show.
bengraven
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Speaking of which, you may be right. GRRM let a bit slip about the prologue to Winds, and I believe he mentioned (WINDS)
that it was the Blackfish with Jeyne?
Doc Holliday
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Jon and Quentynn can't be dead :/ I'm sure Jon isn't dead, Quentynn not so sure.
What a god damn cliffhanger of an ending.
Jon and Quentynn can't be dead :/ I'm sure Jon isn't dead, Quentynn not so sure.
What a god damn cliffhanger of an ending.
'oh'
Moff
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Count of Monte Sawed-Off
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He's just a little incinerated.
He's a secret Targaryen that doesn't burn.
Chuckie
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Yeah he is an illegitimate great grandchild of Aegon the Unworthy and therefor immune to fire.
Steelyuhas
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There's a couple nice little bits of visual storytelling with Theon seeing the ravens being brought in and the flayed men.
Didn't they cover it in the show? I didn't read the first book but still know it was Joffrey. Or did that come forth in later books?
Quentyn's toast. Also, if they were gonna have Quentyn in the show, it would have to be this guy
Except you gotta figure out how to make him look Dornish I guess
Incandenza
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Joffrey being behind the assassination attempt is only really implied in Storm if I recall. It's kind of a dropped point in the books too; just explained away with "Oh it must have been Joffrey because he's the only one dumb enough to try to pull that off."
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BobTheFork
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Tyrion had a line about the dagger when he got to King's landing in Season 2. Joffery squirm and you knew it was him. That's really all you need. It could have been to hide his parentage and it could have been because Tyrion imp-slapped him when they talked about Bran. Either way
cartoon_soldier
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Jeoffrey managed to hire an assassin all by himself?
You mean a bum right?
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