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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 6

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Last Hearth

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Speevy said:
Did someone give Nikolaj Coster-Waldau an acting coach?

He's been playing Jaime with some balls. The only thing missing is the big fuck you to Cersei.
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That won't happen. D&D loves Jaime and Cersei and won't tear them apart, he's going to kill a baby for Cersei next episode.
 
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Betty

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Last Hearth said:
That won't happen. D&D loves Jaime and Cersei and won't tear them apart, he's going to kill a baby for Cersei next episode.
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Shit will go down at Kings Landing and when (if?) Jamie returns I expect Tommen to be dead and Cersei to be responsible in some roundabout or direct way.
 
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Betty said:
Shit will go down at Kings Landing and when (if?) Jamie returns I expect Tommen to be dead and Cersei to be responsible in some roundabout or direct way.
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If Jaime kills Cersei on the show it will be a mutual suicide and D&D will make it a Romeo and Juliet-esque romantic tragedy.
 
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Peter Ian Staker said:
Still the other lords of the Vale would call bullshit and try to overthrow LF. They can see what he is doing.
Also what does LF gain from siding with the Boltons? They have angered the Lannisters (and are expecting to fight them eventually) so their biggest ally is gone and Cersei promised LF the North if he destroyed them.
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In the chaos that follows when Tommen inevitably dies, LF could swoop down and manipulate the situation to his advantage. I think he'll sit the Iron Throne, though not for long.
 
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Keby

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Wow, GoT just went full anime/jrpg shonen.

Sandor literally just went through the "Burned my whole village and my mentor" trope.
 
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Count of Monte Sawed-Off said:
Probably not a good idea to give up a White Walker killing sword.
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It's the gesture that's important, plot-wise she doesn't have to take it back if she's moments away from supporting them. He could even tell her that sword helped him kill a White Walker. In Westeros world rules and story terms, it's a thing people do if these houses are league with each other and these characters are honorable to one another.
 
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No way Arya's gone, but that was still painful to watch, on many levels. Mostly that she was that stupid.

+1 for Lyanna 'Queen of the North' Mormont. She ran that shit.
 
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Tuck

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Thats a far cry from the brotherhood we saw in the past - significantly more in line with what we know of LHS' brotherhood. In particular, the noose.

Fingers crossed.

Glad they finally got to the Riverrun storyline (Even if Riverrun was far more impressive in my imagination). IIRC, the conversation between the Blackfish and Jamie was taken almost verbatim from the books.

Wonder how Arya is gonna save herself.

Lady Mormont was fantastic.
 
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Keby

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Saya said:
Not to mention Arya's escape by water trope that also included a cloud of blood.
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Yeah this also made me chuckle.

Last Hearth said:
D&D and Cogman literally only have cliches and tropes when they are writing without Martin's material.
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Agreed.

Speevy said:
But the mentor was Al Swearengen.
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True haha

Now to be fair, I loved this episode because I love those stupid tropes. My group of friends and I were laughing our ass off at the end of the episode. We were just waiting for a dialogue box to pop up for Sandor that said
"Steel Axe equipped"
 
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PHOENIXZERO

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Yeah, Arya not seeing that coming was kinda sorta dumb. She still needs her hidden blade even though her eagle vision is broken..


Also didn't realize Dany or Bran were in this episode.
 
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Massa said:
McShane said he was a soldier at war, and later we found he was the only one hanged by the Brotherhood. Now I'm not a LSH believer, but if I were, I'd say he used to be a Lannister or Frey soldier before, and we got our first glimpse of LSH's brotherhood right there.
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Couldn't his story about murdering a boy (Robb) while the mother screamed imply that he was one of the men at the Red Wedding?
 
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Just finished. That cold open was hype, and damn is it great to see Mcshane. A lot of great moments low key, Mcshane and the hound, Davos and Lyanna, Olenna and Cersei. Solid stuff. Last few episodes should be a blast.

Season has been extremely entertaining on the whole.
 
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Massa said:
McShane said he was a soldier at war, and later we found he was the only one hanged by the Brotherhood. Now I'm not a LSH believer, but if I were, I'd say he used to be a Lannister or Frey soldier before, and we got our first glimpse of LSH's brotherhood right there.
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I want to believe that. :(
 
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Last Hearth

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Speevy said:
I think you're pretty much in the minority here. The material this season has been fun, and despite its structural problems is miles ahead of last season.

It's been entertaining to be sure.
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It's entertaining in the same way Transformers was "entertaining". Yes I guess a lot of people find it entertaining.
 
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Lautaro

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I imagine Sandor will kill the Lemoncloak but I don't see how the Faith will convince him to fight for them. I hope it doesn't feel too forced, I'm hyped for Cleganebowl but I hope they make it correctly.
 
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Wish McShane had the opportunity to monologue parts of the awesome Broken Man speech. He would have nailed it.

"Ser? My lady?" said Podrick. "Is a broken man an outlaw?"

"More or less," Brienne answered.

Septon Meribald disagreed. "More less than more. There are many sorts of outlaws, just as there are many sorts of birds. A sandpiper and a sea eagle both have wings, but they are not the same. The singers love to sing of good men forced to go outside the law to fight some wicked lord, but most outlaws are more like this ravening Hound than they are the lightning lord. They are evil men, driven by greed, soured by malice, despising the gods and caring only for themselves. Broken men are more deserving of our pity, though they may be just as dangerous. Almost all are common-born, simple folk who had never been more than a mile from the house where they were born until the day some lord came round to take them off to war. Poorly shod and poorly clad, they march away beneath his banners, ofttimes with no better arms than a sickle or a sharpened hoe, or a maul they made themselves by lashing a stone to a stick with strips of hide. Brothers march with brothers, sons with fathers, friends with friends. They've heard the songs and stories, so they go off with eager hearts, dreaming of the wonders they will see, of the wealth and glory they will win. War seems a fine adventure, the greatest most of them will ever know.

"Then they get a taste of battle.

"For some, that one taste is enough to break them. Others go on for years, until they lose count of all the battles they have fought in, but even a man who has survived a hundred fights can break in his hundred-and-first. Brothers watch their brothers die, fathers lose their sons, friends see their friends trying to hold their entrails in after they've been gutted by an axe.

"They see the lord who led them there cut down, and some other lord shouts that they are his now. They take a wound, and when that's still half-healed they take another. There is never enough to eat, their shoes fall to pieces from the marching, their clothes are torn and rotting, and half of them are shitting in their breeches from drinking bad water.

"If they want new boots or a warmer cloak or maybe a rusted iron halfhelm, they need to take them from a corpse, and before long they are stealing from the living too, from the smallfolk whose lands they're fighting in, men very like the men they used to be. They slaughter their sheep and steal their chickens, and from there it's just a short step to carrying off their daughters too. And one day they look around and realize all their friends and kin are gone, that they are fighting beside strangers beneath a banner that they hardly recognize. They don't know where they are or how to get back home and the lord they're fighting for does not know their names, yet here he comes, shouting for them to form up, to make a line with their spears and scythes and sharpened hoes, to stand their ground. And the knights come down on them, faceless men clad all in steel, and the iron thunder of their charge seems to fill the world . . .

"And the man breaks.

"He turns and runs, or crawls off afterward over the corpses of the slain, or steals away in the black of night, and he finds someplace to hide. All thought of home is gone by then, and kings and lords and gods mean less to him than a haunch of spoiled meat that will let him live another day, or a skin of bad wine that might drown his fear for a few hours. The broken man lives from day to day, from meal to meal, more beast than man. Lady Brienne is not wrong. In times like these, the traveler must beware of broken men, and fear them . . . but he should pity them as well."

When Meribald was finished a profound silence fell upon their little band. Brienne could hear the wind rustling through a clump of pussywillows, and farther off the faint cry of a loon. She could hear Dog panting softly as he loped along beside the septon and his donkey, tongue lolling from his mouth. The quiet stretched and stretched, until finally she said, "How old were you when they marched you off to war?"

"Why, no older than your boy," Meribald replied. "Too young for such, in truth, but my brothers were all going, and I would not be left behind. Willam said I could be his squire, though Will was no knight, only a potboy armed with a kitchen knife he'd stolen from the inn. He died upon the Stepstones, and never struck a blow. It was fever did for him, and for my brother Robin. Owen died from a mace that split his head apart, and his friend Jon Pox was hanged for rape."

"The War of the Ninepenny Kings?" asked Hyle Hunt.

"So they called it, though I never saw a king, nor earned a penny. It was a war, though. That it was."
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I though this episode was highly enjoyable except for the really stupid Arya shit.

I think I've reached a point, and I know it took me a while, that I can enjoy this show on its own terms. Conversely, I'm reaching a point where I stop caring about the books altogether.
 
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Last Hearth said:
Ok then, have it your way, it's entertaining the same way "Troy" and "X-Men Origins: Wolverine" was entertaining.
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Give me one of the better X-Men movies and we are friends. Seriously who the fuck was entertained by Origins? Even the trashiest people I know do draw the line somewhere.

KahooTs said:
Transformers is pretty apt, they've the same target audience now and they've adapted for it.
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Are 13 year olds even allowed to watch GOT?
Has the target audience even changed from Season 1? Remember how many gratuitous sex scene we saw back then?
 
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