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[Massa]

If you won an Emmy you must sit the Iron Throne. Or some throne at least.

 

[void666]

Reddit had the synopsis for episode 10.

Spoiler

Brienne meets a friend turned foe

I think it might be

Spoiler

Jamie. He is the friend turned foe.

 

[SictorVullivan]

Has anyone posted something similar to this yet?

Thats totally the real Arya on the left/middle and Ja'gen Arya on the right.

 

[Massa]

^ Holy shit.

A silver PS2, nice.

 

[SictorVullivan]

^ Holy shit.

A silver PS2, nice.

Heh, its my friends image, just so thats clear.

 

[Nazgul_Hunter]

I think it might be

Spoiler

Jamie. He is the friend turned foe.

Spoiler

isnt the meeting spoiled in the Ep 8 preview?

 

[mantidor]

The hair and clothing are pretty common in Bravoos, I think people are looking too hard for clues.

 

[Speevy]

Let's see how many of the casting calls for season 6 have come true so far.

From Watchers on the Wall

Euron Greyjoy (Pilou Asbæk): Theon’s uncle and an “infamous pirate who has terrorized seas all around the world,” according to the casting notice. He’s “cunning, ruthless, with a touch of madness.” We broke the news of his casting on September 1st, and shortly afterward, HBO officially confirmed it. Euron is likely to be the biggest new character in season 6.

Aeron Greyjoy: Sources tell us that Euron’s Drowned Priest brother (another uncle of Theon’s) will be appearing in season 6, but his casting is unknown at this time.

Rugged Pirate: This character stands up in a crowd, makes himself heard, and has a lot of forceful dialogue in a scene with leading cast members. He was scheduled to shoot the same week in Northern Ireland as the filming with Euron and Aeron.

Kingsmoot scene, the third guy must be that one who told Yara to shut up.


the North

In the North:

Smalljon Umber (Dean S. Jagger): Smalljon is a lord in the North, a massive bear of a man with “a hatred that runs deep.” He’s the son of Greatjon Umber, whom we met in season 1. We confirmed Jagger’s casting with a reader’s help after a photo turned up on Instagram.

Lord Karstark: The new Lord Karstark is intimidating, ruthless and calculating, according to his casting notice, and we’ll see him in 3 episodes next season. The role’s casting is unknown at present.

Fletcher: He’s a fat Northern nobleman in his 60’s who makes a stirring speech. Fletcher may not be the character’s real name.

Boyce: He’s a callow young Northern nobleman in his 20’s who has been thrust into a position of power before he is ready. He has a couple speeches and was scheduled to film on the same day as Fletcher.

Two of these have happened, and two have not. If Fletcher and Boyce aren't in episode 8, they aren't appearing IMO.

Bolton officers: played by Andrew Bryan and Tristan Heanue

I don't know. Are these the guys who tried to hunt down Sansa?

Winterfell flashback–

Young Hodor. This part is most likely played by Sam Coleman though it’s not officially confirmed at this time.

Young Ned (Sebastian Croft): He’ll be appearing in scenes where he spars with a wooden sword.

A reliable source confirms for us that we’ll be seeing at least one Stark family flashback, with Ned’s younger siblings Benjen and Lyanna present, as well as his father Rickard Stark, and Old Nan (possibly the Housemaid and the alpha male patriarch mentioned in this casting call).

These happened. The kid scenes?

Beyond

Beyond the Wall:

Three-Eyed Raven (Max von Sydow): The character was introduced in season 4, but next season, the legendary von Sydow is taking over the role of Bran’s mysterious man in the tree.

Child of the Forest: Game of Thrones posted a casting notice for a young woman approx. 18-22 years old of any ethnicity. The actress needs to be about 5 ft tall or shorter, with “striking facial features,” eyes that are as far apart if possible, and someone with a child-like physique who has the ability to handle action scenes as well. With a description so specific, they can only be looking for another Child of the Forest.

These were pretty obvious and right.


Reach

In the Reach:

Randyll Tarly (James Faulkner): Samwell’s disapproving father, who is described as “one of the greatest soldiers in Westeros- a humorless martinet, severe and intimidating.” We shared the casting of Randyll, Melessa and Talla on Sept. 16th, which HBO confirmed the next day.

Melessa Tarly (Samantha Spiro): Sam’s sweet mother, she has a soft spot for him.

Dickon Tarly (Freddie Stroma): Sam’s younger brother is athletic and an excellent swordsman, though not particularly bright. He’s Randyll’s favorite child. EW announced Stroma’s casting in September.

Talla Tarly (Rebecca Benson) Sam’s sister, she’s a “kind, friendly and unpretentious woman,” according to her description.

All cast.


Zafra

The Tower of Joy trio-

Robert Aramayo- Deadline announced the casting of Aramayo in an undisclosed role.

Ser Alfred Hunrith (Eddie Eyre): Eyre’s Spotlight CV for a time stated that he was playing a character named this, but the entry has since been scrubbed to simply confirm his appearance on the show, no role disclosed.

Rowland Selwyn (Luke Roberts): In August, a WotW reader claimed that Roberts was playing the Legendary Fighter (believed to be Arthur Dayne), and also said, “Luke Roberts has been in training for weeks and was joined last week by Eddie Eyre and Rob Aramayo.” At the time of the comment, Aramayo’s casting was unannounced. Roberts’ agency CV states his character name is Rowland Selwyn now.

There’s a question of whether or not these character names are legitimate or ruses used to thrown fans off the scent, so take them with a grain of salt. Common opinion points toward the three characters actually being young Ned Stark, Ser Arthur Dayne and Howland Reed. The actors were spotted around the filming area of the Tower of Joy, however, so we are confident they’re the ToJ characters. There could be other actors involved that we’re not aware of at this point, and fans continue to debate which actor is playing which role.

Yeah, we know what happened here.


theater

In Braavos:

Icelandic band Of Monsters and Men will be making a cameo appearance in Braavos, so look out for that.

We also have The Theater Troupe, appearing in 3 episodes-

Grand Theatre Actor/Manager (Richard E. Grant) – He’s the “larger-than-life leader of a troupe of actors.” He sounds like Izembaro from the novels. He is a “rather nasty to his company when off-stage.” Grant’s role was confirmed through set photos.



Leading Actress (Essie Davis) – She plays Cersei in the troupe’s play. She’s a “fun, charismatic, rum-drinking” type, according to the casting notice. Fans identified Davis in costume on set.

Leading Theatre Character Actor/Play Ned (Kevin Eldon): The character’s a flamboyant caricaturist in the troupe. Again, it was WotW readers who identified the actor through set photos.

Young Blond Juvenile Lead/Play Joffrey (Actor name unknown): He’s sweet, but his stage acting probably isn’t very good.

The troupe members:

Play Margaery – Eva Butterly

Play Tyrion – Leigh Gill

Play Sansa– Eline Powell

Brendan O’Rourke

Ross Anderson

Glenn Barry

There is also a Smart Male Theatregoer, described as being in his 40’s or 50’s. They’re looking for a “smart, posh-looking man to play a well-to-do audience member in a theatre.”

These are right too, I guess.

MY

Around Meereen/Yunkai:

Melanie Liburd (Red Priestess): The beautiful priestess was mentioned in the first casting call, and spotted filming in Spain.

Eddie Jackson: His specific role is unknown but the actor filmed with Enzo Cilenti (Yezzan) and George Georgiou (Razdal) in Spain.

Sabina Arthur (Meereen Mother): Possibly the starving mother with a child mentioned in a casting call.

The third one might be the woman whose baby Tyrion threatened to eat.


Dothraki

The Dothraki:

Khal Moro (Joe Naufahu): Deadline announced Naufahu’s casting in October. The actor’s CV confirms he’s playing Jhaqo, a character from the novels. His role was confirmed to be part of a multi-episode arc. That was most likely his khalasar we saw at the end of season 5.

Khal Rhalko (Andrei Claude): His Spotlight CV confirmed his casting as another khal.

Elie Haddad: The actor’s casting came to light when he posted a photo of a script page from a Dothraki scene in November.

Chuku Modu: Modu posted photos from a Spanish Dothraki location and was photographed with the other Dothraki actors socializing after-hours. His specific role is unknown.

Staz Nair: He was confirmed to be cast, and the actor has also been photographed with other Dothraki-playing actors a great deal over the past couple months.

Diogo Sales: Sales is credited on his CV as a bloodrider for season 6.

Souad Faress (High Priestess): The actress’s CV was updated to say she was “currently filming in Spain” while Game of Thrones was heavily involved in Dothraki filming in Spain in October. Looks-wise, she fits the bill for a Dothraki woman and could be a dosh khaleen at the temple. She could still turn out to be a High Priestess of a different sort, however.

There are parts out there still where we don’t know which actors are playing them. We saw casting notices for a Young Widow and a Quirky Young Warrior. The actors we’ve seen so far don’t fit the bill for the physically slight and short warrior, so unless they went a different route with that character, we haven’t yet found the actor playing this Dothraki role.

There was also a casting notice out for several Warrior Widows.

There have been multiple casting notices put out this year for Dothraki fighters including Qhogo and Akrat in the second major list. They were described as successful young warriors who are tall and confident, with swagger.

These people were either char-broiled or are riding with Dany.

Outlaws

The Outlaw Story:

Ian McShane: EW announced in August that that Deadwood star was joining GoT in a role with a “relatively small amount of screen-time” but that was still of “key importance.” Our own sources have confirmed that he is not Aeron Greyjoy. We further learned that McShane plays a character who has a scene with the outlaw band mentioned in the 2nd casting call. He may be the priest (possibly an equivalent to Septon Meribald or Elder Brother) mentioned in the first casting notice list.

Lachlan: He’s the leader of a group of renegades who have turned on the land that they swore to protect. They now extorting the poor and vulnerable. The outlaw band appears in 2 episodes. The Riverlands is a likely setting for this storyline.

Flynn (Ricky Champ): We uncovered Champ’s casting as a member of Lachlan’s band of renegades.

Japeth: A lieutenant of the outlaw band, he’s a “rough-and-ready type.”

Icelandic news reported the casting of Jóhannes Haukur Jóhannesson in season 6. Given his interactions, it seems likely that he may be part of the outlaw story but it’s unconfirmed.

Bower: He is “a powerless servant, numb to the horror he serves.” He’s filming around one of the days that the outlaw members are so he may be connected to them. He appears in one episode.

These were the guys who killed Septon Ray's merry band, presumably.


Assorted

Assorted castings:

Old Lady (Margaret Jackman): Her Spotlight CV lists Mark Mylod as her director.

Westerosi Sea Captain (Kevin Horsham): The actor’s CastingCallPro listing. From a Mark Mylod episode, filmed in Girona, Spain.

Kesh (Michael Heath): He’s credited for a Daniel Sackheim episode. The character name isn’t one from the books.

Fergus Leathem: His role is unknown. He filmed in August.

Michael Nevin: His agency posted that the child actor would be filming for 2 weeks on Game of Thrones.

Robert Render: His casting surfaced online a few months ago. A source of ours says the actor may have a small role in the Iron Islands.

Pale Young Man (Adam Turns): This casting popped up on a CV. It does say season 5, but given how recently he tweeted about joining the cast, it’s safe to assume he meant season 6. He’s credited for a Mylod episode.

Michael Patrick: Alex Cusack Management posted in November that their client was currently filming GoT, but didn’t mention the character.

Robert Fawsitt, Dermot Ward and Aron Hegarty: On November 2nd, the Castannettenow agency posted that their three clients were are all shooting in Game of Thrones Season 6 that week and the next. Their roles are unconfirmed.

Gary Wales: The actor is listed as a “Healtor Troop” for episodes 5 and 6 of the new season on IMDb. The name Healtor is odd, but we heard a few months ago from a source that GoT had been using a name similar to this as a fake/code name for Freys during production. This isn’t 100% solid though.

Sally Mortemore: Her CV lists her as Well-Heeled Lady 2 in a Jack Bender episode.

Matt Faris: Universal Artists agency tweeted that Faris was cast back in September but his role is unknown.

Roles With Unknown Casting, Unknown Storyline

From the second major casting list:

Hunter: He’s a rough army officer on the hunt appearing in an action scene with main cast, in one episode.
Submissive Maester: The show’s casting a maester in his twenties- a timid young maester. He’s decent but has trouble standing up to others. He appears in one episode. Speculation and book knowledge points to this one being involved in either Sam or Euron’s storyline but there’s nothing confirmed.
Green Recruit: A young man with one line and one day of filming in August. A Night’s Watch recruit or for something else?
Sympathizer 1, 2 & 3: These are rough military types, with one day of filming.
Hapless Son: He’s the hapless sly son of a cruel father, in his late 30’s. He appears in three episodes. GoT was looking for very specific features- a long nose, skeletal features and a bit sly – to play a son who is unable to live up to the demands of his savage father. He has scenes with lots of the leading cast and a great storyline. We believe this may be a Frey son, but it’s unconfirmed and no casting was ever announced or discovered for this part.

Distinguished Man: In his 60’s to mid-70’s. GoT was looking for someone white-haired with aristocratic features, and capable of great intensity, with natural authority. The part required a couple days’ filming but was described as “impactful” nonetheless. He shot the week commencing October 29th in Northern Ireland.

Haggard-looking Lord: in his fifties. He’s the lord of a noble house, intelligent, wry, incisive and articulate. He’s “a hard man and a realist. They mention that he has a good and long scene in which it’s mostly the haggard-looking lord talking the entire time. The character was scheduled to shoot the first two weeks of December in Northern Ireland. They did specify appearance as “white” for the character, so it’s safe to guess he is from Westeros, north of Dorne.

Captain of the Tower: Aged 35 – 45. The captain’s in charge of the security of a castle, an able soldier, commanding and capable. He has a lot of dialogue in a scene where he’s with his superiors and has to make a difficult decision. It’s a one-scene part with leading cast. The role shot for one week, commencing December 2nd in Northern Ireland.

Young Stunner: Aged 18 – 20. She’s a stunner of a brunette. The actress has a couple of scenes, and a great final scene where there is a major twist. This role shot the week of August 5th in Belfast. It’s theorized that she might be Lyanna Stark, and the scene was perhaps an interior scene for the Tower of Joy.

Sublime courtesan: Aged 20 – 25. This beautiful courtesan appears at a party where a high-born woman has employed her services. The role was scheduled to shoot around the week of September 15th.

These I couldn't even begin to tell you.


At this point, there's absolutely nothing spoilery in these casting calls, but they may well have decided not to feature some of these characters.

 

[Ithil]

The old lady mentioned in the last part would presumably be the person the Waif was disguised as.

 

[Massa]

The hair and clothing are pretty common in Bravoos, I think people are looking too hard for clues.

Is that hair really common? I don't think they'd bother doing something like that for an extra.

 

[Speevy]

Everyone in Braavos is a faceless man. It's like the Matrix.

 

[Speevy]

Do you guys think sublime courtesan is the lady Yara fucked the tits off of?

I don't think a lesbian or bisexual woman has ever said that in real life, incidentally.

 

[HAWDOKEN]

I'm really enjoying the season so far, but one thing that bothers me is that Jon is going to Northern house and asking them to fight in a war that has nothing to do with the Nights Watch. It's leaving me with a ton of questions...

Why aren't they questioning why the Lord Commander of the Nights Watch is meddling in the politics of Westeros? Why is no one in disbelief that he was resurrected from the dead? Why would anyone, who wasn't there, believe it? Shouldn't he be executed on the spot like Gared in season 1?

Why doesn't Sansa show any wonder or awe or any emotion towards the fantastical story of Jon rising from the dead (or even seeing a giant in person)? She doesn't have any experience with it at all. I would think that she would, at least, ask Mel to raise other deceased members of her family from the dead.

Also, why are they giving the Boltons credit for winning the Glover's castle back from the Ironborn? I know that they didn't show Stannis taking the castle, like he did in the book, but why give credit to the Boltons of all people?

 

[ElTorro]

I hope that the Arya scene will be better in the book, if it is in there at all. That scene was really clumsy. I didn't feel anything. It's just too obvious that Arya will survive this more or less unharmed.

 

[Latvian Hitman]

I'm really enjoying the season so far, but one thing that bothers me is that Jon is going to Northern house and asking them to fight in a war that has nothing to do with the Nights Watch. It's leaving me with a ton of questions...

Why aren't they questioning why the Lord Commander of the Nights Watch is meddling in the politics of Westeros?

Jon is no longer the Lord Commander of the Watch.

 

[duckroll]

Jon is no longer the Lord Commander of the Watch.

Why don't they question why the Lord Commander of the Night's Watch would step down, and start meddling with politics? You don't leave the Watch. It's for life!

 

[Speevy]

Also, why are they giving the Boltons credit for winning the Glover's castle back from the Ironborn? I know that they didn't show Stannis taking the castle, like he did in the book, but why give credit to the Boltons of all people?

Because they needed to give Hobbe (that's what I'm calling Lord Glover) another reason to be an asshole.

 

[Speevy]

Guys, that's one of the things that isn't going to make sense in the books either.

People are always talking about characters' statuses and allegiances or past actions in GRRM's books, but how does anyone get past the fact that Jon Snow, a man who is either a demon or a traitor is walking around the north.

 

[Farooq]

Spoiler

It seems more and more likely that Cersei's actions will cause Tommen to kill himself leading to Jamie finally abandoning her

Spoiler

Episode 10 synopsis has me hyped for LSH again

Are we passing off leaks we read as speculation posts now?

 

[Speevy]

I say Tommen dies but wargs into Ser Pounce upon the point of death. He has to convince everyone that he's still Tommen.

Eventually everyone believes him and it becomes like a JRPG game where the king has been transformed into a cat.

 

[Lonestar]

Why don't they question why the Lord Commander of the Night's Watch would step down, and start meddling with politics? You don't leave the Watch. It's for life!

There's a next step, but the next step presents another problem.

Show them he died (Stab wounds) and was brought back to life.

Gets chained up and executed for being some form of demonic being.

 

[ZOONAMI]

Why are the white walkers even much of a threat if they cannot cross the wall, and raising the dead seems to only happen north of the wall because of magic? Is there evidence that the magic is fading somehow? Beyond that, if they were even somehow going to approach the wall, wouldn't you just fling a shit ton if wildfire on them with catapults?

What has changed that will allow the walkers to come south? If they havent been able to come south in thousands of years, why can they go south now?

 

[Massa]

Why would any Northern house submit to the Boltons after he openly killed Robb in the RW? Why did Roose get his hands dirty and sully his image in the first place?

Are we passing off leaks we read as speculation posts now?

Game of Thrones fans, spoiling people by confirming speculation as truth since 2011.

 

[Speevy]

Why would any Northern house submit to the Boltons after he openly killed Robb in the RW? Why did Roose get his hands dirty and sully his image in the first place?

Because some of them agreed with turning on Robb, and the rest are apparently so scared of Ramsay that they wouldn't dare protest.

 

[grandjedi6]

Let's see how many of the casting calls for season 6 have come true so far.

From Watchers on the Wall


Kingsmoot scene, the third guy must be that one who told Yara to shut up.


the North

In the North:


Two of these have happened, and two have not. If Fletcher and Boyce aren't in episode 8, they aren't appearing IMO.



I don't know. Are these the guys who tried to hunt down Sansa?



These happened. The kid scenes?

Beyond



These were pretty obvious and right.


Reach

In the Reach:



All cast.


Zafra

The Tower of Joy trio-


Yeah, we know what happened here.


theater

In Braavos:

Icelandic band Of Monsters and Men will be making a cameo appearance in Braavos, so look out for that.

We also have The Theater Troupe, appearing in 3 episodes-



These are right too, I guess.

MY

Around Meereen/Yunkai:


The third one might be the woman whose baby Tyrion threatened to eat.


Dothraki


These people were either char-broiled or are riding with Dany.

Outlaws

The Outlaw Story:


These were the guys who killed Septon Ray's merry band, presumably.


Assorted

Assorted castings:


These I couldn't even begin to tell you.


At this point, there's absolutely nothing spoilery in these casting calls, but they may well have decided not to feature some of these characters.

So...

• Spoiler

  We're probably getting a North remembers scene with Manderly and some other young Lord
• Spoiler

  The acting trope is coming back for one more episode
• Spoiler

  The Frey brothers are coming back for one more episode

Otherwise the most interesting thing might be the Captain of the Tower. Perhaps one of the Blackfish's soldiers actually lowers the bridge for the Lannisters? Or it could be anything else involving a tower lol

 

[Ganzlinger]

Why doesn't Sansa show any wonder or awe or any emotion towards the fantastical story of Jon rising from the dead (or even seeing a giant in person)? She doesn't have any experience with it at all. I would think that she would, at least, ask Mel to raise other deceased members of her family from the dead.

they don't have the bodies for ressurection.

I think people are just thinking that Jon wasn't really dead but seemingly dead. They didn't see the scene so they are taking Melisandre's magic with skepticism.

 

[mantidor]

I'm really enjoying the season so far, but one thing that bothers me is that Jon is going to Northern house and asking them to fight in a war that has nothing to do with the Nights Watch. It's leaving me with a ton of questions...

Why aren't they questioning why the Lord Commander of the Nights Watch is meddling in the politics of Westeros? Why is no one in disbelief that he was resurrected from the dead? Why would anyone, who wasn't there, believe it? Shouldn't he be executed on the spot like Gared in season 1?

Why doesn't Sansa show any wonder or awe or any emotion towards the fantastical story of Jon rising from the dead (or even seeing a giant in person)? She doesn't have any experience with it at all. I would think that she would, at least, ask Mel to raise other deceased members of her family from the dead.

Also, why are they giving the Boltons credit for winning the Glover's castle back from the Ironborn? I know that they didn't show Stannis taking the castle, like he did in the book, but why give credit to the Boltons of all people?

The North storyline is kind of complex and they are rushing through it like mad now that I think about it. I think most of what you mentioned is explained off screen, like Jon meeting Sansa could easily be a whole episode each one telling the other all they have lived through. Rumors of resurrection must also be floating around, interactions between Boltons and other houses also happened but they were never shown, only mentioned.

 

[Staccat0]

If they're doing LSH there's no way they would have had the Brotherhood return as a bunch of mindless thugs killing innocent people like that. The dream is dead. Let it go.

I dunno. Homeboy is basically a reformed war criminal. They could just bring her back but make her a different and less noble character.

 

[Latvian Hitman]

Why don't they question why the Lord Commander of the Night's Watch would step down, and start meddling with politics? You don't leave the Watch. It's for life!

Can't imagine why there would be any mystery as to why Jon and Sansa would want to take their ancestral home back from the family that betrayed and killed Robb and Cat and currently holds Rickon hostage.

The whole thing about the Watch is definitely a bit cloudier and messier, though. It's like, "Yo, I'm not the Lord Commander anymore because I died and was resurrected by this red-headed priestess, so....yeah, technically my watch was ended at that point...." Using his death as a loophole to leave the Watch works well enough for viewers, I suppose, but it does seem like a harder sell for the various northern lords. Which is why they're skipping over that part in the scenes where they're trying to rally support.

 

[Gigglepoo]

The whole thing about the Watch is definitely a bit cloudier and messier, though. It's like, "Yo, I'm not the Lord Commander anymore because I died and was resurrected by this red-headed priestess, so....yeah, technically my watch was ended at that point...." Using his death as a loophole to leave the Watch works well enough for viewers, I suppose, but it does seem like a harder sell for the various northern lords. Which is why they're skipping over that part in the scenes where they're trying to rally support.

That's kind of the Game of Throne way. It's easier to hand wave conflicts than deal with them onscreen.

 

[grandjedi6]

I'm really enjoying the season so far, but one thing that bothers me is that Jon is going to Northern house and asking them to fight in a war that has nothing to do with the Nights Watch. It's leaving me with a ton of questions...

Why aren't they questioning why the Lord Commander of the Nights Watch is meddling in the politics of Westeros? Why is no one in disbelief that he was resurrected from the dead? Why would anyone, who wasn't there, believe it? Shouldn't he be executed on the spot like Gared in season 1?

Why doesn't Sansa show any wonder or awe or any emotion towards the fantastical story of Jon rising from the dead (or even seeing a giant in person)? She doesn't have any experience with it at all. I would think that she would, at least, ask Mel to raise other deceased members of her family from the dead.

Also, why are they giving the Boltons credit for winning the Glover's castle back from the Ironborn? I know that they didn't show Stannis taking the castle, like he did in the book, but why give credit to the Boltons of all people?

I don't think the North gives a fuck anymore. They have been through some crazy shit so far:

• Their Lord was beheaded and declared a traitor
• Their King of the North, half their armies and half their families were killed off at a wedding, breaking guest right
• A man who betrayed his King and flays people for fun became their new Lord
• Who was then killed off by his even crazier bastard son
• Who then married their former Lord's daughter, who's also under suspicion for killing the former King with a imp, meaning the North is in rebellion against the crown... again
• The majority of the Nights Watch is dead, including the long time Lord Commander
• Everyone who comes down from the wall won't stop freaking out about ice zombies
• The Iron Born took over half the North only to go fuck off afterwards
• A man declaring himself King came along to fight the Boltons, only to go around burning his own daughter alive
• They keep hearing about all the shit that keeps going down at Kings Landing
• And wildlings are now their next door neighbours

At this point it would be surprising if Northerns didn't shrug off everything. A mutinous demonic bastard Lord Commander is running around the North and asking for armies? Well whatever.

 

[Henkka]

Worst. Resurrection. Ever.

We're seven episodes into the season and Jon Snow reborn has yet to do anything besides mope and beg for men from Northern lords. So much for "kill the boy".

 

[Brakke]

Why are the white walkers even much of a threat if they cannot cross the wall, and raising the dead seems to only happen north of the wall because of magic? Is there evidence that the magic is fading somehow? Beyond that, if they were even somehow going to approach the wall, wouldn't you just fling a shit ton if wildfire on them with catapults?

What has changed that will allow the walkers to come south? If they havent been able to come south in thousands of years, why can they go south now?

The Walkers were a legend most people basically didn't believe but then they started getting aggressive. They attacked The Fist, the attacked Hardhome. Even if you don't know how they intend to beat the Wall, you damn sure should be nervous that they do have a plan.

 

[Real Hero]

Worst. Resurrection. Ever.

We're seven episodes into the season and Jon Snow reborn has yet to do anything besides mope and beg for men from Northern lords. So much for "kill the boy".

What was even the point of being killed? It may as well just have been a grazed knee after olly tripped him up

 

[HAWDOKEN]

The North storyline is kind of complex and they are rushing through it like mad now that I think about it. I think most of what you mentioned is explained off screen, like Jon meeting Sansa could easily be a whole episode each one telling the other all they have lived through. Rumors of resurrection must also be floating around, interactions between Boltons and other houses also happened but they were never shown, only mentioned.

I agree that it is complex and that the show doesn't have the luxury of time. However, I think they should have her mention it at least once. It's too big of a deal for them to just leave the audience guessing as to Sansa's thoughts on his resurrection. The lack of a reaction from her just feels pretty unbelievable considering how, in reality, an entire religion is based on an individual's resurrection.

In reference to some of the Jon Snow/Night's watch comments, one of the story's strengths is in how realistic the politics are conveyed. If no one questions Jon about his vows now, then why was it such a big deal when he left to fight with Robb? Jon not having to deal with the political minefield of proving his resurrection feels pretty underwhelming and undermines the political challenges we were introduced to at the beginning of his story.

Also, I have one more question: Was that Lem Lemoncloak?

 

[Admiral Woofington]

man the tv show Jon Snow is such a wimp.

Just fucking bring the pain to that filthy bastard and get it done with. We don't need an Arrested Development style failure after failure of recruiting.

 

[pr0cs]

Why are the white walkers even much of a threat if they cannot cross the wall, and raising the dead seems to only happen north of the wall because of magic?

I presume the same reason why Bran and Co were no longer safe with the three eyed raven in the cave. I suspect Bran and Meera will cross the wall again basically opening up the ability for the night's King to follow.

The raising of the dead is something the nights King does but really we've seen several instances south of the wall

 

[duckroll]

What was even the point of being killed? It may as well just have been a grazed knee after olly tripped him up

It allowed him to hang all the traitors, leaving no loose ends on the Wall, so he could ride south with Sansa.

 

[Real Hero]

It allowed him to hang all the traitors, leaving no loose ends on the Wall, so he could ride south with Sansa.

If there's no other ramifications I think that's pretty lame

 

[Speevy]

It allowed him to hang all the traitors, leaving no loose ends on the Wall, so he could ride south with Sansa.

And so Ramsay can flay Edd alongside Queen Mormont

 

[InfiniteBento]

man the tv show Jon Snow is such a wimp.

Just fucking bring the pain to that filthy bastard and get it done with. We don't need an Arrested Development style failure after failure of recruiting.

I don't even care for Jon Snow anymore. It's cool he is back but his development is lacking. I'm more so interested in Sansa's role in this entire thing.

Do you guys think the letter she wrote was for one of the houses in the North for more recruitment or is it for Littlefinger?

 

[Blue Ninja]

What was even the point of being killed? It may as well just have been a grazed knee after olly tripped him up

Being able to leave the Watch, getting full Wildling support, getting rid of the traitors at the Wall.

I don't even care for Jon Snow anymore. It's cool he is back but his development is lacking. I'm more so interested in Sansa's role in this entire thing.

Do you guys think the letter she wrote was for one of the houses in the North for more recruitment or is it for Littlefinger?

Definitely Littlefinger. I think she mentioned earlier that she'd already sent ravens to Wyman Manderly and the like.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

I've reached the point with this series I just want all of the Starks to die already, and the show then switches to The Hound [Arf arf] kicking ass and taking names.

This season has just made me hate TV Jon Snow more.

 

[Blue Ninja]

I think the problem is that they're rushing so many things so fast, and with so many characters, that we never get any real development from them. We've had, what, twenty minutes of scenes including the resurrected Jon so far? Instead we get ten-minute sermons from the High Sparrow every episode or Ramsay's kill of the week, and even he's been out of commission the past two weeks.

 

[InfiniteBento]

Despite what everyone says and how lack luster her parts have been in comparison to the books, I still love Arya and have hope for her character. I want her to wreck the Waif and come out on top despite it looking completely impossible.

Rickon is probably going to die because he doesn't talk ever and has no depth at all.

Sansa is legit a copy of her mother which for me is super uninteresting.

Jon has a lot of potential so I still hold out for his character to conquer the North.

Half the starks are aight, the other half is ehhhhhhhhhh

 

[Plasmid]

If they're doing LSH there's no way they would have had the Brotherhood return as a bunch of mindless thugs killing innocent people like that. The dream is dead. Let it go.

Who says they're mindless? What if they know who the hound is and they tell LSH? She demands for them to die? I don't really think LSH is coming but god dammit i can dream.

 

[bodyofanamerican]

I haven't been the biggest fan of Jon's this season either, but I think that's kind of the point. He's a terrified shell of himself since being brought back from the dead, so I can see why he's been less fun to watch. He feels miles away from the Jon who stared down the Night King at Hardhome, and I think they want us rooting for him to get back to that state of mind.

Also, I think Sansa did an end around Littlefinger and went to Sweetrobin directly.

 

[mantidor]

I agree that it is complex and that the show doesn't have the luxury of time. However, I think they should have her mention it at least once. It's too big of a deal for them to just leave the audience guessing as to Sansa's thoughts on his resurrection. The lack of a reaction from her just feels pretty unbelievable considering how, in reality, an entire religion is based on an individual's resurrection.

In reference to some of the Jon Snow/Night's watch comments, one of the story's strengths is in how realistic the politics are conveyed. If no one questions Jon about his vows now, then why was it such a big deal when he left to fight with Robb? Jon not having to deal with the political minefield of proving his resurrection feels pretty underwhelming and undermines the political challenges we were introduced to at the beginning of his story.

Also, I have one more question: Was that Lem Lemoncloak?

Oh for sure I'm not excusing the show, I don't get why they want to rush so much, and the resurrection, for being the big event it was, has had so far really underwhelming consequences.

 

[ToyMachine228]

I don't even care for Jon Snow anymore. It's cool he is back but his development is lacking. I'm more so interested in Sansa's role in this entire thing.

That's actually what D&D are doing on purpose, as it seems to me. They know they were heavily criticized for regressing Sansa's character last year and for making her a victim again. So this season they made Jon look doubtful of himself again in order to contrast with Sansa who has finally come into her own, albeit a season too late. They're watering down Jon in order to prop Sansa's newfound strength up. It's pretty lame writing. They can make Sansa stronger and bolder without making Jon a wounded puppy

 

[bitbydeath]

That last part based on anything in the preview?

The Brotherhood doesn't know Brienne or Pod and would have no reason to go after them unless directed so by LSH.

If she were to start turning up now would be it.