DrForester
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Lady Stoneheart has probably already been killed off screen.
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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 6
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Sectorseven
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Was Arya serious about traveling west of Westeros? What's supposed to be there?
I laughed. At least she was killed the first time on screen.
Yeah a 5'2" girl who got her ass handed to her by another girl for two years is now the most dangerous girl in Westeros because she killed someone in a near pitch dark room. You're watching a show. In the real world when you get stabbed in the gut and have a knife twisted, unless you get emergency medical treatment and precise surgical repair you die.
Most people think Arya is dead. She does not have the ability to take faces from the House of Black and White like the other faceless men. I have no doubt she will be a great fighter. But to say she is dangerous. What makes her dangerous? In Essos she is no one. In Westeros she is probably wanted dead in the North by the Boltons and has no support in the South.
It is why the show hinted at sending her to Asshai conveniently at the same time Jorah will probably go there.
As long as she always fights in pitch black darkness. Anything other than that and she can't even beat a little girl.
Yea :/ This is probably my biggest peeve with the show so far.
I'm talking more about how she killed him and how graphic and painful it was. I would hardly call that justice. Generally characters obsessed with revenge are pretty dark.
Intheflorsh
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lol, Blackfish deciding to die just cuz
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
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Well she's now apparently Wolverine, so she's probably good to go.
The last time we saw her fight the waif though she got her ass handed to her. Then suddenly this episode she's the master. Her training has way less impact because they never had her successfully carry out a hit. The waif was consistently a better fighter than her and managed to sneak up on her with the old woman disguise. Arya only managed to win because I guess the waif never got blind training? And then Jaqen let her go because.... reasons?
I'm actually really excited to read Arya in Winds now just because I want to find out the better-thought-out story of how Arya gets away.
Last Hearth
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For what this show was in the first few seasons to this is an embarrassment, I thought season 6 couldn't possibly be as bad as season 5 but I think now it has a chance to be worse, depending on the last 2 episodes.
Arya's story is ridiculous, and KL and Meereen just spins in circles where nothing happens. Riverrun was 2 years too late and completely pointless.
It's no longer just badly written compared to the books, it's just a badly written show.
Arya's story is ridiculous, and KL and Meereen just spins in circles where nothing happens. Riverrun was 2 years too late and completely pointless.
It's no longer just badly written compared to the books, it's just a badly written show.
Preview:
Unless they intend to have Beric breath life into a skeleton.
Jaime made threats in Feast in order to secure a peaceful siege but here it seemed more earnest. He's S1 Jaime except for when Brienne's around.
Who knows what they're going to do with him now.
So Ramsay's worse than White Walkers now?
Unless they intend to have Beric breath life into a skeleton.
Jaime made threats in Feast in order to secure a peaceful siege but here it seemed more earnest. He's S1 Jaime except for when Brienne's around.
Who knows what they're going to do with him now.
I'm pretty sure that has been a popular theory for years, that Arya would realize she's not no one, she's a Stark, and leave Braavos.
However, you cannot tell me that has executed well. After Episode 6 it took a fucking nosedive. She had the candle, she had Needle, she failed her mission and came up with a plan to ensure her survival. Okay, cool, whatever. Then Ep.7 she suddenly gets plot-induced stupidity, gets stabbed, multiple times, in the stomach, than magically heals in a day, and does fucking parkour through crowded streets while the Waifinator is on her tail, and only then does she remember "Oh wait, I had a plan all along."
And finally, Sexy Jesus with the terrible writing. "You are finally no one." Oh really? Are you even paying attention to anything that happened at all in the last few episodes? Or that she never threw away the sword you told her to throw away? It was done just so Arya could say she's Arya Stark, defiantly, because that's what the tv show needed.
Did I ever mention how much I love this thread? Thank you guys for this outlet for my annoyance.
Ya I know. I thought the whole point was to sneak the Blackfish out, but since he didn't escape, what's the point?
I think Sophie Turner pulled a Ben Kenobi... "What she said was true from a certain point of View"
If the fight club theory is true then Arya has crossed 3 names off her list and appeared as other people and it's already happened.
Arya appeared as the Waif. So if the waif was in the trailers that part is true. Arya/Waif have also killed 3 people on Arya's list (sir Merrin, Cersi Lannister(as played by an actress) and the Waif)
She wasn't running from arrest, she was running from her feelings.
She got a training from Waif who was a superior fighter than Arya and she still managed to beat Waif with all her wounds.She's a very skilled fighter now, she's smart and she has a lot of people to kill. I would say she's dangerous.
There wasn't a plan revealed.Nothing implied that.She outsmarted Waif.
And how do we know Jaqen ''let her go''? We still don't know what the real intentions of Faceless Men are and Sexy Jesus had a smirk in that last scene. Arya hasn't left yet,we still can get a final confrontation between Arya and Jaqen.
I have no idea what you're talking about, so I'm going to go with '...'.
People that were theorising about Arya like they were the Umbers were relying on the show still having been written with the same craft as in the earlier seasons when they were pulling from GRRM's work. Back when the plot rewarded people the more they thought about it. Will be interesting to see if people have learned a lesson now.
Pod didn't want to get felt up again so they went out the back.
Yeah, this is totally season 1 Jaime. Maybe he has a conscience, but he's willing to throw it away for anything tangentially related to Cersei.
Also, removing Edmure's scheme to let Blackfish escape really put a negative spin on Edmure's character, too. Now he's a guy who was 100% willing to throw his uncle under the bus, either because Jaime's threats broke him or because he's really that bitter over Blackfish's refusal to negotiate with the Freys for his life.
Yeah these roles are probably small enough that they can be fit into just about anyone's schedule, and it's probably better work than any other projects they're on in terms of prestige and exposure.
After the failed assassination, she found a room, with no windows, and a single candle, and left her sword there. It seems pretty obvious this was the plan all along.
I never mentioned Jaqen letting her go. I'm just saying it was terrible writing.
They already had a boat and maybe didn't want to waste it LOL.
We can't know that if she got the idea of blind-fighting during the whole chase scene. Nothing past this episode showed any indication of Arya trying to kill Waif. She was just trying to escape.
Initial impression after watching the episode was they're really going out of their way to not show any action to save money for the last few episodes. After sitting on it for a bit, I think the only thing that massively disappointed me was the whole Riverrun/Blackfish deal. What a waste of potential there.
The Arya fight not being shown on screen was okay for me, there's no way whatever would be shown could justify it and any ideas I can come up with would be hard to shoot.
I also found it ridiculous how the Faith Militant and Lancel sat around while one of their guys got bodied instead of swarming Ser Robert Strong, but then I suppose that's not entirely outside their character and I can't really blame them too much.
The Arya fight not being shown on screen was okay for me, there's no way whatever would be shown could justify it and any ideas I can come up with would be hard to shoot.
I also found it ridiculous how the Faith Militant and Lancel sat around while one of their guys got bodied instead of swarming Ser Robert Strong, but then I suppose that's not entirely outside their character and I can't really blame them too much.
grandjedi6
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I was willing to entertain people's hopes for her previously because bringing her back as a gimmick is something this show would do. Hell, half this season has been wrapping up plot threads or bringing back the remaining book plots. But now it's beyond silly to hope. Beric's not even dead in the show!
Best hopes for a LSH substitute/Frey killing expedition are: (A)Beric finds and revives Blackfish and he acts as LSH, or (B)the BWB and the Hound (& maybe Arya) go on a Frey hunting expedition. Though the latter would miss the whole rebirth/horrors of war aspect of that plot.
badcrumble
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I just don't know what Arya's relevance to the rest of the plot is anymore (and the books kinda have this problem too, but at least the Faceless Men are clearly tied to Oldtown et cetera in the books).
I was looking forward to seeing what clever method they would use to show a battle in the dark. But oh yeah, D&D are lazy as fuck and aren't even going to try.
Of course the pitch black darkness moment part of the battle would just be the end of the battle anyway. Before that, there would have to be some back and forth fight, some payoff after making us sit through 2 years of Arya getting beat with a stick, something to show us that Arya has progressed.
MagicWithEarvin
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They'll all meet up with Gendry and Arya west of Westeros.
Arya's Faceless men arc was terribly executed but it still got her where she needs to be to be extremely dangerous.. nobody in westeros knows what she looks like or what she is capable of. Her being able to lie and act and now poison people makes it even worse.
As far as her relevance to the plot she will hook up with Nymeria, gather an army of wolves and maybe the BWB and head north.
As far as her relevance to the plot she will hook up with Nymeria, gather an army of wolves and maybe the BWB and head north.
As i said, the exact motivations of Faceless Men are still unknown. What it really takes to become ''no one'' ? There are still a ton of questions left to be answered and if they remain unanswered i can agree with you but like i said, season's not over yet.
Dr_Boris_Goltz
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I figured it was because Jamie's men would likely report to Cersei that he let a known ally of Sansa just... walk away.
We've had characters reference Cersei killing everyone around her this episode and the last and the cache of Wildfire underneath the city was shown in Bran's vision earlier this season. Combine that with the "rumor" Cersei and Qyburn discussed and it seems to me like an obvious conclusion.
Jaime also talks about the caches in Season 3, but that seems way too long ago to be any kind of foreshadow.
Maybe it's me just looking for something I want to be there. Even Olenna's departure seemed strangely convenient to me.
A seems like the likeliest way to get to a Stoneheart-esque plot, if that's necessary still. They could capture Brienne's boat and then resurrected Blackfish could order her to hunt down Jaime like in the books. Doubt that's where things are going, but it'd work, much better than skeletal Cat would.
It's not like they were wearing a hood when they first walked into Jaime's camp...
I think they wish they could do the same thing in Mereen but GRRM himself has no fucking clue.
seems like we still have to wait for the ironborn battle next season
CoffeeExpress
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ok episode overall, but nothing special.
I've always hated Arya. I was rooting for the T-0000 to win.
I've always hated Arya. I was rooting for the T-0000 to win.
She spent several months being blind and learning to fight without sight. However, in the daylight not only could an assassin come up to her and stab her repeatedly but she literally ran from a girl because she knew she would die. So you're telling me she's now going to go to Westeros and tear shit up? Is she going to Needle the Mountainstein in a pitch black room? She is smart and has learned to kill but she was only fooling herself. She was always Arya Stark not a remorseless assassin. That is why she couldn't kill Lady Crane. But that is precisely what made fighters like the Hound and Mountain dangerous. They didn't care who they killed. Arya still has her list. She will probably see it through to completion but she has not had proper sword training. Has not fought in iron armor.
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