Yeah, that's a very odd complaint. He added flavour to the scenes, and was more memorable than a regular red
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Yeah, that's a very odd complaint. He added flavour to the scenes, and was more memorable than a regular red
Anton Sugar
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Are you saying he could have been anyone in Westeros or anyone in BwB? To the former I agree and to the latter, the only people who knew his name were hardcore fans given that they never said he was Lem in the show.
Anton Sugar
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Mostly the former, but yeah, agreed on both. I didn't even realize it was him until I checked the thread after.
It's a shame that this can be said about a lot of plots in the show.
thequickandthedead
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I just wish Tom O'Sevens was in the show.
John Dunbar
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same for me. i only remember thoros and some guy with a bow.
Cpt.Underpants
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Then you don't know the theory that he's really Richard Lonmouth!? I'm shocked, absolutely shocked.
so Maisie had the director turn down the action in that chase?
Damn. Lloyd really doesn't get ASOIAF - he makes good action, but much like the episode with Barry's death, it seems everyone is holding the idiot ball when he's directing.
Damn. Lloyd really doesn't get ASOIAF - he makes good action, but much like the episode with Barry's death, it seems everyone is holding the idiot ball when he's directing.
Anton Sugar
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Oh god, I had blocked Barristan's death from my mind.
wesleyshark
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Yeah Lloyd doesn't seem to understand some of the characters- what he did with Hound and Ray... awesome. But the Arya stuff could have been handled so much better, even with how the material was written.
The actor playing Barristan is like "shit I could have said no to that shit death scene?"
Barry lives, I will not hear these lies that there is a universe where the shitty gimped Show Version of Grey Worm solely leads Dany's army in Mereen. I mean, that's just crazy talk
Anton Sugar
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I don't know if it's intentional or if they (shudder) didn't have enough time, but at least we're not wasting anymore time on his and Missandei's whatever-it-was.
He did say no. D&D said that made them want to kill him even more. Because they're children.
Anton Sugar
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I wonder if D&D even pick up a lot of the underlying thematic elements in A Song of Ice and Fire. Like did they realize that Selmy and Jamie have the same arcs except in reverse? It's incredible how much they've botched almost every character. I mean, they turned Littlefinger from a devious mastermind to an idiot lickspittle. It's so baffling.
FUCK KNEELING, FUCK OATHS, AND FUCK CHARACTER ARCS.
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People don't know they're twins? Time to scrap everything and start over!
Maisie should have said 'no' to the triple stab and knife twist. That would have prevented this self-inflicted injury the writers and directors caused here.
bodyofanamerican
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I have every bit of confidence that this is going to kick the shit out of Hardhome.
hendersonhank
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Yeah. I mean obviously in the books she's not going to become some super-ninja and come back and get delicious vengeance on...who? Nobody she knows or cares about is even alive anymore.
The point is she realizes that running away is not the answer, losing her identity to become a contract-killer / religious lunatic is not the answer. She's Arya and she's a Stark and she belongs in Westeros.
Huh? She was a cold-hearted girl who had a long list of people she wanted to kill. He thought she was a promising recruit. Turned out she didn't want to be "no one", she wanted to be Arya Stark.
Yeah, her first "real job" was killing an innocent person -- whom she respected -- who had done absolutely nothing wrong, to satisfy someone else's jealousy. Of course this is when "real Arya" kicked in.
Eh Arya's story will be a lot different in the books if they ever come out and it definitely won't be shit and pointless.
That much I do believe.
TBH after recent events, I don't think season 6, 7, and 8 will be similar to what the books would be at all. They'll just have the same end result.
That much I do believe.
TBH after recent events, I don't think season 6, 7, and 8 will be similar to what the books would be at all. They'll just have the same end result.
In Sapochnik we trust.
I'm not so sure though. Hardhome also had the benefit of being thematically sound in its action. It effectively transposed a built up threat from the written medium (reports, rumours, paranoia), to the visual (escalating, terrifying, relentless slaughter).
I honestly think Hardhome is a masterpiece of adaptation.
What did it adapt?
Book 8 obviously.
bodyofanamerican
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Agreed, honestly. I was being a bit hyperbolic of course, but this will definitely be one of the finest battles put on a tv screen.
That's a really great point though, how Hardhome was a culmination of the White Walker threat in both mediums. I think we'll get a roller coaster of emotions this week (epic, anguish, joy, etc) but nothing matches Hardhome for sheer terror and despair at what the characters are ultimately facing.
Plus it came out of nowhere, I wasn't expecting things to take off they way they did in Hardhome.
I'm really hoping Ramsey dies this season, with Tommen and High Sparrow following close behind.
Steelyuhas
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Hardhome is truly brilliant execution on a truly nightmare scenario for the characters.
Battle of the Bastards can certainly be great in its own way, but I don't expect it to capture that sense of surprise, terror, and dread that made Hardhome hit so hard.
bodyofanamerican
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The big thing I want out of this is Jon getting back to his old self. I want him to be the guy that killed a goddamn White Walker and stared down the Night's King (void of hope as he may have been at the time) as he sailed away in his boat.
hendersonhank
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They really don't seem like that big a threat to me to be honest. There only appear to be 3 of them or so, you can just tip some arrows with obsidian heads and wipe them out from a distance or kill them hand-to-hand with any obsidian weapon or valyrian steel, and dragons/wildfire/regular fire can wipe out their armies (and probably the white walkers as well).
bodyofanamerican
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The offscreen account of what happened at Hardhome in the books, no?
The offscreen account of Jon travelling with Tormund to a meeting of wilding elders to form an alliance before they were set upon by an army of wights and while walkers led by a videogame boss character who is exclusive to the show? Must have missed that.
bodyofanamerican
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Thus "adaptation". See your point though.
I cannot imagine that all three of them make it out of this season alive.
I think Ramsay's going to bite the dust at the end of the Battle, either getting cut down by Jon or getting ripped apart by Ghost. I think Tommen will die in episode 10 to throw King's Landing into chaos (I can't even guess who or what will finally kill him), but I think the High Sparrow has a pretty good chance of surviving to keep stirring up shit next season.
wesleyshark
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High Sparrow is one of my favorite characters. I figure he's going to be killed sooner rather than later, due to how he's able to piss everyone off in KL's... but I'll be sad to see him go.
How can anyone dislike the High Sparrow? He's the only bright spark these days in the entire King's Landing story arc. Remove him and it's just Cersei mopping and whining. Kevan simply can't carry the plot on the show. I guess maybe Mace Tyrell could step it up. Madness has had its day after all.
bodyofanamerican
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n/m.
Unless Jaime borrows Littlefinger's fast travel teleporter, I doubt it. They need an anchor for the King's Landing plot, and Pryce isn't going anywhere until they figure out something better. Plus we need him to have a scene with the Hound at least. There's an awesome climax for his redemption arc waiting for him in King's Landing.
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