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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 6
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grandjedi6
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Whatever happened to Karstark? I don't remember seeing him go down.
I hope this will be addressed next episode with Jon confronting Sansa about this.
Tormund killed him I think? Stabbed him in the face a few times.
Tormund took a bite out of his ear/neck and then stabbed him.
At least I thought that was Karstark.
reelbigtink
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Ah, I thought that was Smalljon. I can't really tell any of those bearded dudes apart.
It was cool to see the legacy that Jon and Dany have created that people will talk about throughout Westeros. Jon and his skills in battle and retaking his homeland, and Dany and her overpowered army and dragons and how she ravaged through Essos.
The concept of the new generation taking over is pretty cool.
The concept of the new generation taking over is pretty cool.
That was Smalljon. Karstark is probably dead or in chains.
bodyofanamerican
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That was Smalljon, you are correct. We didn't close the loop with Karstark this week.
I thought that was Umber. I Gotta go back and rewatch that
What did they adapt from Book Dorne? The stories don't even resemble each other.
Apparently they weren't even going to go for it until Cogman had a really dumb idea to send Jaime there.
Twilight Princess
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Dark pheonix is coming, bitches.
This is how I feel about it.
The books has more consistent quality that ranges from A to C. It's mostly in the B range post book 3 though.
And the show goes from B to F. And it's mostly in the D range post season 4.
Just finished watching this after the NBA finals game, and I gotta say what an episode..
Has to be the greatest Game of Thrones episode ever, this was better then any blockbuster movie this year. Bravo season 6 for restoring the good name of this show.
-Bolton went out like a boss
-Sansa got her shine
-Dany wasn't annoying and was actually badass
-And ofcourse Snow, nothing more to be said of this dude
Has to be the greatest Game of Thrones episode ever, this was better then any blockbuster movie this year. Bravo season 6 for restoring the good name of this show.
-Bolton went out like a boss
-Sansa got her shine
-Dany wasn't annoying and was actually badass
-And ofcourse Snow, nothing more to be said of this dude
It was either that or he'd tell another joke.
So how dead is Yara once she tells the ironborn to stop being ironborn?
They shouldn't have moved the action to Dorne at all. Much like the books shouldn't have.
I saw it as less of a "May I?", and more of an "Any objections? Now's the time".
I thought she was asking for help on how to handshake since she didn't know how, heh.
He is lacking his
burning sword
Yeah, I didn't consider this. It was a good deal for her to make for herself, but not a good deal for her people.
That's how they stay alive and support themselves is by reaving, not building, hunting, manufacturing, or growing. I guess they could be really tough fishermen.
Red Arremer
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That smirk at the end tho. Darth Sansa in full effect.
biosnake20
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This was the last episode 9 the show will ever have.
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ArkkAngel007
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- Loved to finally hear Daenerys embrace that her father was a terrible person. The Usurper labeling is still grating, but understandable. She's only met Selmy and Tyrion, both figures will grievances against the powers-that-be in Westeros, and none of those who she's been told most of her life want nothing more than to put her tarred head on a spike. Viserys did a lot of damage, so it will be interesting to see how she will adapt once she meets whatever remains of these houses.
- As great as the battle was, it seemed a bit of a waste for three dragons on a single...longship? Galley? Whatever it was, and keeping it mind that she wants to leave as many ships intact, it was still an odd choice to show.
- The Bastardbowl plan seemed solid, given what information was provided and the forces known. Unfortunately, Sansa didn't want to be forthcoming with information despite complaining that they weren't consulting her as their most valuable intelligence asset.
- Night's Watch desertion charge was finally mentioned...probably for the last and only time.
- The drama with Rickon, Ramsay, and Jon wasn't the greatest in writing as its only purpose was to force Jon to be foolish for family against Sansa's warnings, but it seemed to work well for a lot of show-only watchers. Not quite sure Ramsay needed another despicable act, but maybe it was just to highlight how right Sansa was even while she was holding back the key Vale info.
- Seems odd Wun-wun wouldn't be armed, or grab a spearman by the spear to use as a sweep device, or do the shield thing he did near the end....really, Wun Wun was nerfed out on the field, despite that the situation would still have likely been an issue for him.
- No Karstark present was odd. Umber vs Tormund was fitting given the sigil and reason to fight.
- Good to see Tyrion being used more effectively. Cockless wonder jokes to continue at the expense of Theon next season.
- Interesting to see how well Yara and Daenerys took to each other. On one hand, they respect the other's position of power in a world where men inherit the titles and power typically. Yara also didn't have much of a choice in her situation but to accept the terms. Yet it was still a big deal for ironborn to have their culture essentially abolished. Good news is that this indicates that the Dothraki won't be the raping and pillaging horde many claim will be the case.
- The pile of bodies...Jon being trampled and suffocating...the brutality. If nothing else, the Battle of the Bastards was shot well and portrayed the brutality above what is typical in the large scale scenes we've seen before.
- No North Remembers actions was the sour point next to the communication issue between the Starks. I didn't expect a speech and the show had set it in well that there wouldn't be such a moment taking place with the northmen present at the battle, but still a bummer that it was a straight forward affair.
- Vale stuff was predictable and over done within the genre (and show itself in a way). However, it was still exciting to see happen, and the ramifications in the next episode in what position it places Littlefinger in above Jon and Sansa will be the interesting bit (hopefully).
- The use of the hounds to dispose Ramsay was fitting, but the grin on Sansa as she walked away was haunting. Ghost fit his namesake well, but the dragons all in action was worth it. Seeing what happened to Summer may have been a good case to keep Ghost off the field for a while longer.
Overall, it was a very enjoyable episode, especially in this new direct and off-the-rails style the writers have employed due to the absence of further material. Hopefully next week will have the pay off to these events.
He personally knows Theon, and very informed on the history of the Greyjoys. Aside from being her top advisor currently, he's really the only thing she has to reliably size up and handle affairs regarding the houses of the seven kingdoms without defaulting to fire and blood.
So I don't see the issue. Especially when a big book and show complaint is how she's impulsive and ignorant.
Yeah, Dany's never made an alliance. She's conquered and she's accepted supplicants; she's begged and she's made offers that were refused; but I don't think she's never cut a deal.
Big time. Rulers making the "right" decision but being resented by their people for it is kind of A Thing in this series.
MagicWithEarvin
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Is it confirmed that they're really going for shortened seasons now? So, 7 and then another 7?
Valhalla Rapids
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Jon's watch ended when he died. No charge.
Ramsay's death was satisfying.
Jon beating him was a lot more enjoyable tho.
What I really liked about Ramsay was that even after his defeat he was still an insufferable evil cunt. I like that his character didn't break. It suits Ramsay.
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I looooved Theon and Tyrion today. I hope that we do see more scenes of them together.
Jon beating him was a lot more enjoyable tho.
What I really liked about Ramsay was that even after his defeat he was still an insufferable evil cunt. I like that his character didn't break. It suits Ramsay.
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I looooved Theon and Tyrion today. I hope that we do see more scenes of them together.
kinoki
Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
I'd argue it gives her plot armour. This show is about learning to exist outside the borders of what is considered the natural order. All the main characters is a bastard in some way. Tyrion, Dany, Jon, Arya, The Hound, Ramsey, etc. And now Yara decides to be something new ushering in a new order. It fits with the narrative and pretty much guarantees her survival.
iRAWRasaurus
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Atleast 13 episodes remaining. 7 episodes for season 7 and 6 episodes for season 8 was the last thing I heard. However it was mention if there had to be another episode, it would happen.
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Sad that Rickon and his crew were disposed of in the show. I hope that's not how it plays out in the books, but we'll see.
Either way, that was a stellar episode. Very cathartic. Just glad that things are really moving along and captain plot armor asshole is out of the picture finally.
Either way, that was a stellar episode. Very cathartic. Just glad that things are really moving along and captain plot armor asshole is out of the picture finally.
It may not be as big of a deal as you think. If you look back at the history of Westeros the Iron Islands go through periods of reaving and not reaving, so it's not unprecedented. Essentially the stronger the Iron Islands get the less pillaging and reaving they do and they become like just one of the other seven kingdoms. They are only reavers when they're weak and marginalized. For example Harrenhall was built by Iron Islander Harren Hoare at the peak of "Iron Islander" power. He never even visited the Iron Islands. He was no reaver.
BTW if Yara x Daenerys is something that wasn't shipped that much before, I bet that's changed starting tonight. Great scene between those two this episode.
Ramsay was arguably the best battle commander in the entire show, his defeat of Jon would have been utterly flawless. I kind of regret we won't see Ramsay go up against the Night King.
Agreed, they had greaaat chemistry. They could still be the badasses of the seas. Instead of being stuck raiding to survive they could be the Queen's Royal Navy.
Agreed, they had greaaat chemistry. They could still be the badasses of the seas. Instead of being stuck raiding to survive they could be the Queen's Royal Navy.
It was the top down shot with the slow panning out with Jon buried in the sea of bodies that reminded me of KoH.
Easily the best episode of the season so far, and one of the best episodes of the series yet. The scale, the grittiness, the satisfaction. Wow. Opening with Meereen was very smart, because it raised the stakes and expectations immediately. The dragon VFX was pretty impressive, and despite all the iffiness of Dany's storyline, seeing her actually ride Drogo and command the other two dragons in a full assault on the fleet was... wow.
Tormund/Davos scenes before the battle were fantastic. Kit Harrington really nailed all his scenes this week. There were so many fantastic shots during the battle. The single cut sequence with Jon wandering through the battlefield was really well shot. The scene with Jon being piled on as the wildlings made their ascent through the bodies and blocked out his light captured the intensity and chaos of the battle perfectly. The knights of the Vale crushing through the barricade was beautiful.
I don't think I disliked a single scene in this entire episode. Even Dany's exchange with Yara felt thematically fitting. Two women with bad fathers bonding over their desire to see women ruling kingdoms of men. Good stuff. It's extra amazing how they STILL managed to sneak in a cock reference. They just had to. Dat quota.
Wunwun breaking through Winterfell's gates. Jon blocking Ramsay's arrows. Ramsay getting his face bashed in. Darth Sansa unleashing the hounds. Oh man, Anyone who does not love this episode should just stop watching this series, imo!
Tormund/Davos scenes before the battle were fantastic. Kit Harrington really nailed all his scenes this week. There were so many fantastic shots during the battle. The single cut sequence with Jon wandering through the battlefield was really well shot. The scene with Jon being piled on as the wildlings made their ascent through the bodies and blocked out his light captured the intensity and chaos of the battle perfectly. The knights of the Vale crushing through the barricade was beautiful.
I don't think I disliked a single scene in this entire episode. Even Dany's exchange with Yara felt thematically fitting. Two women with bad fathers bonding over their desire to see women ruling kingdoms of men. Good stuff. It's extra amazing how they STILL managed to sneak in a cock reference. They just had to. Dat quota.
Wunwun breaking through Winterfell's gates. Jon blocking Ramsay's arrows. Ramsay getting his face bashed in. Darth Sansa unleashing the hounds. Oh man, Anyone who does not love this episode should just stop watching this series, imo!
I was actually a bit surprised that we were already at episode 9, and thus a massive battle was required. I thought there was going to be another episode of some build up and intrigue. I don't understand how you name drop Manderly all season long and have nothing come of it. If he shows up next episode I don't really know what the point is. To kill some Freys maybe? I dunno that just seems out of the blue.
Easily the best episode of the season so far, and one of the best episodes of the series yet. The scale, the grittiness, the satisfaction. Wow. Opening with Meereen was very smart, because it raised the stakes and expectations immediately. The dragon VFX was pretty impressive, and despite all the iffiness of Dany's storyline, seeing her actually ride Drogo and command the other two dragons in a full assault on the fleet was... wow.
Tormund/Davos scenes before the battle were fantastic. Kit Harrington really nailed all his scenes this week. There were so many fantastic shots during the battle. The single cut sequence with Jon wandering through the battlefield was really well shot. The scene with Jon being piled on as the wildlings made their ascent through the bodies and blocked out his light captured the intensity and chaos of the battle perfectly. The knights of the Vale crushing through the barricade was beautiful.
I don't think I disliked a single scene in this entire episode. Even Dany's exchange with Yara felt thematically fitting. Two women with bad fathers bonding over their desire to see women ruling kingdoms of men. Good stuff. It's extra amazing how they STILL managed to sneak in a cock reference. They just had to. Dat quota.
Wunwun breaking through Winterfell's gates. Jon blocking Ramsay's arrows. Ramsay getting his face bashed in. Darth Sansa unleashing the hounds. Oh man, Anyone who does not love this episode should just stop watching this series, imo!
+1 This episode was absolutely phenomenal.
It was so satisfying as well to see the direwolf banner unfolding and see the Starks win something, even though Rickon lost his life.
The tension going into the next episode is so high. You know there's gotta be a big ask from Littlefinger and the Vale for their help. What is that going to be?
MagicWithEarvin
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Sansa's hand in marriage.
secondspace
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I was impressed by the the Dragons enough to forgive the pointless negotiation scene and the Sons Of The Harpy conveniently slaughtering people at the front gate so that the Dothraki could charge at them.
My only doubt about how the Winterfell battle would play out was exactly who would turn up to save the day, I half expected Brienne and the Brotherhood to ride in as well. Jon Snow on foot in the middle of a cavalry charge, then a hail of arrows, with only his plot armour to protect him doesn't seem like something they'd have done in season 1. Very well shot, but the writing is plumbing new depths. Everything feels rushed and poorly thought out.
My only doubt about how the Winterfell battle would play out was exactly who would turn up to save the day, I half expected Brienne and the Brotherhood to ride in as well. Jon Snow on foot in the middle of a cavalry charge, then a hail of arrows, with only his plot armour to protect him doesn't seem like something they'd have done in season 1. Very well shot, but the writing is plumbing new depths. Everything feels rushed and poorly thought out.
Definitely.
I was doing some rewatching and Littlefinger definitely did not know Ramsay when he gave Sansa to him.
He even commented that he knew very little about him which is odd.
Littlefinger also does seem to know about R+L=J or at least highly suspects it to be the case. He knows Lyanna wasn't forcefully taken or raped.
I'm really intrigued to find out what happens when Dany reaches Westeros. The North was a big part of usurping the Targaryen's and as I recall the Iron Islands don't have too much love for the North either. Maybe Theon is the one to pull through on uniting Dany and the North?
mehrmantrout
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Amazing episode, though I was expecting Ghost to be the one who finished Ramsay
Dash_Riprock
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Oh they'll come out one day, far away. At least, TWOW will. And it will be rushed and even more poorly paced than ADWD if thats even possible, because GRRM won't bother editing it cause he needs it out ASAP and he knows fans will buy it regardless.
ADOS will be even worse, unless its partially or wholly Ghostwritten, in which case its a toss-up.
He swam out to Gendry's boat.
Speaking of which. Where the fuck IS Ghost. Is he back in the Wall? Did Jon bring him with him? Why wasn't he in the battle? Especially if Jon was going to charge out alone. ??????????
What a superbly directed episode. I really hope Sapochnik has a massive career after this.
One thing I really appreciated was that the oner tracking Jon when the battle starts didn't exist solely to have a tracking shot. There was a clear purpose to it, as it demonstrated the absolute chaos and element of random chance in battle.
One thing I really appreciated was that the oner tracking Jon when the battle starts didn't exist solely to have a tracking shot. There was a clear purpose to it, as it demonstrated the absolute chaos and element of random chance in battle.
mehrmantrout
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Blew all the cgi budget on horses and giants i'm guessing :d
Ghost coming through the gates with Jon and mauling Ramsay would have been ace
Don't forget the dragons. This episode probably stretched the VFX budget further than anything the show has done so far.
Blue Ninja
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WHAT A GODDAMN EPISODE. SEASON OF DREAMS.
Daenarys burning the Master's fleet was beautiful, like watching Aegon the Conqueror unleash wrath upon them. Tyrion's plan was great, too, if not at all unexpected.
Lol at Theon and Yara appearing out of fucking nowhere, though. They literally teleported in. Cool scene between Tyrion and Theon, though.
And then the battle. Goddamn the battle. I legit feared Jon was fucked a few times, when he charged forward into Ramsay's trap. Got played like a damn fiddle.
Rickon's death was edited fantastically, though. When he misses that final shot, and then Rickon gets perforated anyway. Poor kid, really fucking sad scene when they brought him in at the end.
Tormund ripping out the Smalljon's throat was fucking glorious. Goddamn Wildling power.
Fucking Wun Wun, though. Having Ramsay take him out was the final insult. I half-expected Ramsay to get shot up before Jon could get to him. Having Sansa do the deed would've been sweet.
Her final words to Ramsay were dope, though. She wasn't kidding when she said she knew him. She broke him down piece by piece. Having the dogs do the deed was damn poetry, even if I saw it coming from a while away.
Gonna be interesting to see how the Jon - Littlefinger relationship develops. I also got the feeling Jon might want to know where the fuck those Vale knights came from, all of a sudden.
All in all, fucking great episode. No real surprises, but damn if it wasn't great to watch.
Daenarys burning the Master's fleet was beautiful, like watching Aegon the Conqueror unleash wrath upon them. Tyrion's plan was great, too, if not at all unexpected.
Lol at Theon and Yara appearing out of fucking nowhere, though. They literally teleported in. Cool scene between Tyrion and Theon, though.
And then the battle. Goddamn the battle. I legit feared Jon was fucked a few times, when he charged forward into Ramsay's trap. Got played like a damn fiddle.
Rickon's death was edited fantastically, though. When he misses that final shot, and then Rickon gets perforated anyway. Poor kid, really fucking sad scene when they brought him in at the end.
Tormund ripping out the Smalljon's throat was fucking glorious. Goddamn Wildling power.
Fucking Wun Wun, though. Having Ramsay take him out was the final insult. I half-expected Ramsay to get shot up before Jon could get to him. Having Sansa do the deed would've been sweet.
Her final words to Ramsay were dope, though. She wasn't kidding when she said she knew him. She broke him down piece by piece. Having the dogs do the deed was damn poetry, even if I saw it coming from a while away.
Gonna be interesting to see how the Jon - Littlefinger relationship develops. I also got the feeling Jon might want to know where the fuck those Vale knights came from, all of a sudden.
All in all, fucking great episode. No real surprises, but damn if it wasn't great to watch.
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