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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 6
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You can only get rid of one:
Book vs. Show memes
Twenty good men
Bad pussy
Oysters, clams, and cockles
Choose wisely.
Oysters can stay. The rest is trash.
Wait I thought D&D got the overall plot from GRRM?
Bad Pussy, by far the most annoying thing about these threads.
It's a one liner that had no overall relevance on the plot but people just won't let it go.
Why should she be grateful? Obara is a greedy bitch, you know that?
-Pyromaniac-
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I don't think anyone knows the extent of what they got but it's probably just a simple/overall outline of the direction of the show and the ending. But none of the details in between. The books and show will probably differ a ton in those in-betweens.
That is if the books ever come out.
I love you FF. Never Change.
Bad pussy. Everything else is fine, but that's bad. Bad pussy even!
cartoon_soldier
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She doesn't?
We'll see once the books come out, but from what I gather D&D have the equivalent of what would have happened if Peter Jackson had the books up to Sam and Frodo entering the lands of Mordor and then just Tolkien telling him "Oh yeah, so Gandalf returns as a White Wizard, Gollum follows Sam and Frodo and eventually tries to take the ring and they both fall into molten lava. Then Gandalf flies in on some birds and saves the Hobbits, the end!"
Maybe it's like English and Spanish where "no" has the same meaning.
Pyramid head
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Well, Thoros explained to her how he did it.
Im gonna spoil tag this entire post since it's not just me theorizing about Jon and the Night's Watch:
I think the pyre/funeral/burning ressurrection is locked out if Thorne, Bowen and the other antiJonWatchers is killed when the wildings storms into Castle Black when Thorne & Co tries to break into the room to get Jons body.
I also think that next episode will start the end of the Night's Watch and the wildlings will become the new Night's Watch.
In the episode 2 preview clip form HBO we see a Night's Watchers shooting at arrow at something, I guess it's the wildings. There are like 4-6 people in Jons room + Ghost. If there are no wildings helping them there's no need to shoot an arrow anywhere if not Ghost somehow manages to jump outside the room.
I also think that next episode will start the end of the Night's Watch and the wildlings will become the new Night's Watch.
In the episode 2 preview clip form HBO we see a Night's Watchers shooting at arrow at something, I guess it's the wildings. There are like 4-6 people in Jons room + Ghost. If there are no wildings helping them there's no need to shoot an arrow anywhere if not Ghost somehow manages to jump outside the room.
But Dany is fluent in Old Valyrian so in 3x10 she wouldn't have needed Missandei to tell her what it meant =/ (this is the nitpickiest of all nitpicks, idc)
Good episode overall. It's a first episode though, so I didn't expect any crazy twists or something like that. They had to go back to all the plot points of the last episode of Season 5, so it almost felt more like an epilogue.
What they did to Dorne is inexcusable though, just absolutely destroyed that plot line. Still can't believe what they did to the Martells, one of my favorite houses in the books. Goddamn Sandsnakes... Also how the fuck did they get on the ship that's in the fucking harbor of King's Landing and nobody bats an eye? Ridiculous.
I hope that they bring back Jon by episode 3 at the latest, I don't want to wait anymore. Make it happen already
What they did to Dorne is inexcusable though, just absolutely destroyed that plot line. Still can't believe what they did to the Martells, one of my favorite houses in the books. Goddamn Sandsnakes... Also how the fuck did they get on the ship that's in the fucking harbor of King's Landing and nobody bats an eye? Ridiculous.
I hope that they bring back Jon by episode 3 at the latest, I don't want to wait anymore. Make it happen already
Sho_Nuff82
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The known sand snakes are currently in Old Town, King's Landing, and hunting Darkstar. In covert missions, serving Doran. Ellaria is a weeping widow. WoW spoiler
Arianne will be the first person from Dorne to meet Aegon.
I'm pretty sure they don't care about the body that much, they just wanted to bait people that opposed them.
Moff
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It will probably take 3 more books for GRRM to reach the point of the Dorne Storyline of the episode we just saw. Ellaria an Arianne are obviously merged.
Allforce
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This both makes sense and doesn't at the same time. Why do Davos and the brothers in the room with Jon's body even HAVE to appear opposed? They could have just collected the body and played it cool like they were just as shocked as everyone else, and then followed their plan to recruit the wildlings in plain sight.
There were fucking dozens of Nights Watch brothers "opposing" Thorne in the hall when they found out Jon was dead. Screaming TRAITOR at Thorne and whatnot. Why are they spared? Because they heard Thorne's speech?
Bizarre logic. HEY THEY GOT THE BODY THEY MUST BE TRAITORS. Well SOMEONE was going to find it since you left it right in the courtyard...
Starz produced Spartacus
It's a fantastic show, GOT wishes it could have some of the characterization or fight choreography from Spartacus.
Yeh. Spartacus is great.
GoT has become beyond unwieldy and I dont't think anyone outside of D&D would think juggling a dozen different plotlines that barely even intersect would be a smart thing to do on a TV show.
Well, I mean, no one outside of GRRM thinks it's a good idea in books either, LOL.
bishopcruz
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I actually hated how Sansa stumbled on that. She is good at one thing, courtly manners and fineries, it is what she was trained for her entire life. It's what kept her alive through her time with the Lannisters. She would not need Pod the Rod to tell her what to say. And can I also mention she wouldn't need Theon's PERMISSION to take on Brienne. Gah, they just can't write her well, even when they try.
As for the rest of the episode. It was OK in the north, mediocre in Essos and King's Landing (Larry and Carol are the OTP.) and fucking horrific in Dorne. D & D continue to show that they are hacks when they don't have a book to rip scenes from.
Mr. Wonderful
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I honestly think this is the entire purpose of Dorne in the TV series. It's simply going to be an ally against the Lannisters when Dany invades. Probably along with the Iron Islands and what remains of the North.
I agree, but it's not like they didn't know that a considerable amount of people trusted Jon Snow. It's more like they wanted to single out the people closer to him and take them out. The rest would probably remain silent, despite not approving the situation.
Yeah, it probably doesn't make a lot of sense either.
Cybrwzrd
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There are many people who only can see a chipped piece of bark on a tree, and completely miss the fact that there is a forest around them. Keep SMH over some of the stuff people are complaining about here.
The two snakes got to the prince by hopping on a boat and following him. Do the people confused over that think that the events in this show are happening in real time with a 24 clock ticking in the background?
I know we're all grieving over the smoldering ruins of Doran's plot right now, but she's always had a dagger in addition to the whip. Thinking he's safe against the whip lures him into striking recklessly, she sidesteps, guts him with the dagger.
Having an entire character based on whip combat is still super dumb though. If she's going to be sticking around I hope they just get her a sword or something.
I think everyone assumed they were going to be working for Dany, it was just that Doran was going to reveal that he was one of Varys' friends who had been supporting Dany from the start. Then, Ellaria and her girls would see that real revenge isn't wanton murder, it's dismantling Tywin's entire dynasty and replacing it with something lasting, and would sign on to Team Doran.
But the show seems to want to just go the wanton murder route instead, because it saves them a few minutes of screen time/casting budget. My guess is the Sand Snakes murder Tommen in the books, and this is the show taking the absolute quickest route they can to that conclusion. What's funny is with that extra short episode they totally could have just crammed Doran's speech in, gotten the girls on a boat to KL and been in the same place.
radios shipping overview
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Brienne's entire job on the show over the past couple of seasons is to tie up loose ends in the plot. She's like a cleaner, in the mob sense of the word.
Thaedolus
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Oh come the fuck on about the Sansa thing. She's just been through hell, on the run through an icy river being tracked by disappearing hell hounds, and barely escaped going back to rape castle. People would bitch if she didn't mess it up, and people are bitching because she did. Man, I agree with the criticism about Dorn in the show, but some things the fans are just being fucking whiners about nothing.
Well...yeah hahah. Although it's worse when you only have sixty minutes every week.
I couldn't believe the amount of shitty jokes. And I had a hard time believing that they did not know who Dany was. And then suddenly everything is cool when she said she was Khal Drogo's widow.
cartoon_soldier
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It's a gift that the Lord of Light gives, she has never done resurrection. And after all her prophecies and flame visions seem to be failing she is losing her faith. Will the lord of light bless her with resurrection powers?
higgsboson1997
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That speech became a bit of a joke to me. He made this really bold statement of revenge in AFFC, and his plan was to simply marry off Quentyn to Dany? Is that pretty much it?
Almost certainly no.
higgsboson1997
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What? She is a kid who hasn't been seeing many proper courtly things happen lately. And I doubt she has ever seen or had any reason to believe that she would be giving oaths. It makes sense that she is good when it comes to curtsying and being polite, but I see no reason why she would have to know the oath by heart completely.
IMO, that would have made her character a little too perfect in one attribute, and the way D&D did it instead makes her a lot more believeable.
bishopcruz
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Or I could have a difference of opinion and people have defended the shitty writing of the show since last season? Yes she's been through hell, but she's been going through hell for seasons now. Her one basic trait is KNOWING all of these courtesies. It's what she falls back on when she is traumatized, it's been that way for four seasons. The scene wouldn't have been so bad in a vaccum, but after all the stupidity that we dealt with last season it comes off as having no agency of her own. It's stupid.
higgsboson1997
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Elaborate please?
RobotChant
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That one Dorne scene seemed straight out of a porno... it was sexy but ended too soon. Too bad.
I've been focusing more on the costumes and set designs this year. They are amazing I'd say, especially Dorne.
That greedy bitch line was awful.
Pod was a beast on horseback.
It's no duel at the Inn. It's trash in comparison to the lead up and the actual encounter in the books with fake hound. It's one of the things GRRM clearly has the show beat. There is no way you read those chapters and thought the show did her story line justice.
I noticed that too.
Vary's long dangling belt and Tyrion mentioning his lack of a cock. LOL
Dario and Jorah felt very brokeback. Make it happen HBO. Never watched the movie so I don't know what I'm talking about.
They clearly wanted Jon staying dead for the first ep afte everyting they said in the last few weeks.
I've been focusing more on the costumes and set designs this year. They are amazing I'd say, especially Dorne.
That greedy bitch line was awful.
Pod was a beast on horseback.
It's no duel at the Inn. It's trash in comparison to the lead up and the actual encounter in the books with fake hound. It's one of the things GRRM clearly has the show beat. There is no way you read those chapters and thought the show did her story line justice.
I noticed that too.
Vary's long dangling belt and Tyrion mentioning his lack of a cock. LOL
Dario and Jorah felt very brokeback. Make it happen HBO. Never watched the movie so I don't know what I'm talking about.
They clearly wanted Jon staying dead for the first ep afte everyting they said in the last few weeks.
higgsboson1997
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That's the thing. I don't believe that accepting someone's loyalty is a very common occurrence. It is very different from a mere courtesy.
ToyMachine228
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This definitely bothered me. In the first season, the Dothroki had a very intense and savage feeling. This episode just made them seem like ignorant pillagers. And Emilia Clarke's "I'm a bad ass" facial expressions continue to be awful. There may be a conscious effort to make the Dothroki seem less imposing as Dany's place in the world has changed, but they pushed it too far.
RobotChant
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DeviantBoi
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I thought that she was hanging around Winterfell, waiting on Sansa.
When she heard the search party, perhaps she followed them in case they happened to find Sansa and capture her.
The hounds were barking up a storm, so that led her to them.
ToyMachine228
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Also, was there something in Jon's blood pattern in the snow? Davos looked at it and the way it was shot seemed like it was supposed to be mysterious or of significance.
Arianne has to marry someone eventually.
I think there will be lots more of Dorne. We'll see how the new rulers of Bad Pussy Kingdom prepare for war. I just wonder if the two sand snacks in King's Landing are magically transported back to Dorne in the next few episodes. It's not like they wore undercover clothing, they kinda stood out.
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