All of the Sand Snakes are Oberyn's.
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All of the Sand Snakes are Oberyn's.
Latvian Hitman
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And no new ones were introduced last night. Same three actresses/characters from last season.
Whip!Snake was in the previous season, she just had like two lines. Her name is Nymeria Sand, generally called Lady Nym.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
Bad pussy is the only sand snake I care about.
If you're referring to the mutineers, a pure is probably far too honorable a thing to do for him. Hence why they let him die in the snow like an animal near his shallow grave.
:lol: Well done, ser.
Latvian Hitman
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I'm assuming that's why they want his body. Obviously, they haven't had the chance yet, because Davos, Edd & Co. snagged him.
Raijin_Cain
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The treasonous men wanted his body found next to the traitor sign as an example.
Ser Davos and Jon's friends are locked up in a room, setting fire to it would not be beneficial to their cause.
Though to be on the safe side I'd have tied him up so he at least wouldn't want to eat my brains halfway through the night. Maybe they forgot about the whole Others business due to the stress of the situation.
bengraven
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Right because at least some of them should believe in the undead after the events of the last five years.
Her "first act as someone who is no longer going to be pushed around" was her lying to the Lords Declarant in 408. This was followed by her acting like an idiot for a full season and getting abused worse than ever.
Red Arremer
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Can Dornishman become the Westeros equivalent of Florida Man?
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
When Beric and Catelyn were resurrected they weren't completely themselves anymore. Being dead and the revival takes something from them. The idea is that since Jon's spirit or whatever is inside Ghost, he'll be pretty much himself once resurrected.
The Artisan
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funniest thing I just saw my coworker checking this thread out...hehe
EDIT: non spoiler thread
EDIT: non spoiler thread
Blue Ninja
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I was looking for the "Dorne was a mistake, it's nothing but trash"-image.
This is better.
Ros8105
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This is fantastic news. I can't think of anything I dislike more in a tv series than the sandsnakes.
Red Arremer
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Dornishman using 'hydropod' attempting to reach Dragonstone rescued at sea by Westerosi Coast Guard
This is my issue as well
If you wanted to get rid of Dorne in a good way...
Doran acknowledge to the assassination of Myrcella and the kills all the sand snakes And ellaria and sends his heads to the lannister as a apology.
End of Dorne
BTW this Trystane was another actor?
The other explanation is that all of the Dorne stuff from the books is essentially cool world building, not actually that relevant to the core story. The TV adaptation has limited money and time so the producers are going to toss out absolutely everything they can. The fact that the Dorne stuff of last season even existed at all means that Ellaria / Adrienne does something of significant relevance in the books. All the other characters don't and so they're best killed off. I don't think this was handled that gracefully in the last few Dorne episodes, and the death of Trystane Martell in this episode was particularly unsatisfying, but I understand the motivations from the production side.
The major high level takeaway for Dorne I guess is that this was once a stabilizing force in Westeros politics like Highgarden, and now it has shifted into something that is not.
Dash_Riprock
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Clarke said she's never going nude again so there wouldn't have been one regardless.
CopperPuppy
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Has the bolded been confirmed? Did I miss a scene somewhere?
Last I checked, Obara and Nym were standing at the docks with Ellaria and Tyene, watching the ship carrying Jaime, Trystane, and Myrcella sail into the distance. Next episode, Obara and Nym are suddenly on the same boat as Trystane, which appears to be a different boat than the one carrying Jaime and Myrcella.
I must have missed something here: where did they establish that there was a second boat carrying Trystane, and where did they establish how Nym and Obara go from standing on the docks with Ellaria and Tyene to being on the same boat as Trystane?
Same guy as far as I could tell..
Well, unless it was off-screen a la Sansa/Ramsay..
She allegedly said that before she went nude at least two more times in the show, unless she said it again after that.
elrechazado
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They are in the books, at least for non dornish. Joffrey was telling dorne/polack jokes.
Yeah I mean Davos & co. Even if they are in mourning these guys know dead bodies return as wights, they would burn the body ASAP.
Jaime was on a second smaller boat to bring Myrcella's body back. That boat probably came from KL to pick him up. Trystaine was on the bigger boat and they even said he can't set foot on the captial.
They didn't establish how Nym and Obara got to him, but is it really a stretch of the imagination that they took another boat and tailed Trystaine before boarding to kill him? Did this really need to be explicitly stated?
Hasphat'sAnts
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They spent a 10 minute scene planting the seeds of R + L = J in season 5.
In a show with finite number of screen time it's incredibly stupid to plant a red herring that will fly over most people's heads unless it becomes important later on.
Latvian Hitman
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Yeah- not an option while they're locked in that tiny room w/him.
Askherserenity
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My group of friends, who mostly don't even read the books, were really disappointed in this episode. Did anyone else's friends feel the same?
The Dorne stuff was so damn awful. So damn awful.
The dialogue was horrible. What the fuck is going on here? That scene with the Khal and his buddies was bad. So much cheesy dialogue in this episode.
I really liked the Sansa scenes and the Nights Watch scenes though. It's still really cool to me that we get Sansa and Theon together and the scene where Brienne is offering herself up as a Knight was great.
The Dorne stuff was so damn awful. So damn awful.
The dialogue was horrible. What the fuck is going on here? That scene with the Khal and his buddies was bad. So much cheesy dialogue in this episode.
I really liked the Sansa scenes and the Nights Watch scenes though. It's still really cool to me that we get Sansa and Theon together and the scene where Brienne is offering herself up as a Knight was great.
Cornballer
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Yep, Dorne was Dorne and the Dany/Khal scene was cliche, but if I'm going to go out of my way to bitch and moan I'll go out of my way to list a few positives as well.
The cinematography of the Sansa/Theon escape was gorgeous
The pacing at the wall seems deliberately leisurely, but well done
Doran - Genuinely surprised, shocked even
Mel - most haunting thing I've seen in decades
Also, if anyone wants to create a Dorne bitching filter, I'll gladly fund it.
The cinematography of the Sansa/Theon escape was gorgeous
The pacing at the wall seems deliberately leisurely, but well done
Doran - Genuinely surprised, shocked even
Mel - most haunting thing I've seen in decades
Also, if anyone wants to create a Dorne bitching filter, I'll gladly fund it.
Kings Landing and Dorne are p far away. Just pretend that the Sand Snakes rode for some Dornish port where the boat stopped to take on fresh water, and snuck aboard there, if it makes you feel better.
God damnit Dorne. Literally anything requiring choreographed action there just ends up looking like...
The filming stuff we were all using to assume minimal Dorne all came from Hotah's actor though. He's the one who said the it was a small plot this season, and who instagrammed their very brief three-day filming session together. Now that he's killed off though, there could be plenty more stuff with the girls that he just wasn't present for, epecially with two of them in King's Landing now.
Blue Ninja
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I hope that's the last we see of Dorne. Just have a messenger come in at the end of episode 6 or 7 going "Yeah, we razed Sunspear and the Water Gardens to the ground. Everyone is dead."
'Dorne died on its way back to its home planet.'
bishopcruz
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Yes, because the last time we saw them, they were with their mother and clearly not on the boat. The whole Dorne thing was poorly handled from the beginning and this is just the icing on that shit sandwich. Hell, I kind of want an explanation as to why the ship didn't turn around the second Myrcella was dead as they were basically minutes away from Dorne at that point. I mean, the princess was murdered for God's sake.
So assuming that they don't turn round for a reason, they also do nothing with Trystaine, who was either supposed to join the small council, or at least would be a major fucking hostage at this point, and the ship is IN King's landing. So for the snakes to get to Trys, they would need another ship, hidden from view for the entire trip, then pull up next to the ship carrying the heir, get on, get to him, and then kill him. Bullshit. With setup it would be ridiculous, without it, it's even worse.
Red Arremer
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Seems like this one might get some mileage:
I wanted to put "Plot" on the killed guy's back, but I can't figure out how to make text on gifs not look shit.
Garbage nothing premiere. The only things of note which happened made the show 30% (scientific statistic) worse and everything else was just a repeat of the same status quo in case the audience forgot where characters were last season. Even with every scene feeling like it was a few minutes too long, the episode still wasn't an hour long. They're obviously stalling due to lack of material for a full season at this point. Lol.
Oh and someone at HBO must like granny porn.
Oh and someone at HBO must like granny porn.
CopperPuppy
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I'm happy to pretend whatever the show wants me to. For instance, I've been pretending that Jaime will see the meaningful development his character undergoes in the books for the past two seasons.
Pretending isn't the problem. The problem is lazy writing.
Bingo.
Blue Ninja
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VenomousCoffee
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Those guards' non-response, my God.
Edit: Regarding the Sand Snakes appearing in his cabin, I can imagine ways they could have gotten aboard. But just skipping all that for the "OMG!" moment of their suddenly being there after cutting from Doran's death is just bad craftsmanship.
DeviantBoi
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Remind me about the Mance death scene in the books.
Was there a red gem holding the glamour in place?
Or was it just Melisandre?
I think I remember reading about a gem, but it was a long time ago.
Was there a red gem holding the glamour in place?
Or was it just Melisandre?
I think I remember reading about a gem, but it was a long time ago.
OldGangWarily
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I'm not entirely convinced that Hotah is killed yet (Considering it was one small dagger). While Doran and Trystane is definitely soooper dead.
But maaaaaan are those Sand Snakes line cringeworthy.
But maaaaaan are those Sand Snakes line cringeworthy.
Yup I saw it in a bar and the reactions were pretty bad. My two friends didn't like it that much although one tried to defend the show a bit more. Everyone thought that the reveal really didn't change anything and the episode felt like nothing really happened.
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