John Harker
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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 6
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Yes to everything here
Honestly, I'm surprised that King's Landing itself isn't in a civil war. It's pretty obvious to even the commoner that Cersei just usurped the throne and killed off the only people the commoners actually liked - the High Sparrow and Margaery. And with Mace there, what happened to his army? Did they leave with Olenna?
Also, Randall Tarly should have been at the doorstep of KL by now too. His liege lords were just decimated. Instead of Dorne and the sandsnakes, Olenna should have been treating with Randall the boss. I really hope we get to see more of him next season and that he isn't only tied to Sam's plot in Oldtown (unless it's destroying Euron's Ironborn who may be attacking the city).
Don't forget the Tyrell's I think they will join with Dany as well. And they're still supposed to have a giant army?
m_shortpants
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Yep. I had to explain it to my cousin and uncle too. They weren't sure what was happening or what any of it meant.
So they kinda bungled this for the casual watchers
I talk shit about the show a lot but even I loved that sequence. The best thing about it is that I think that it was a show creation and you usually those suck but in this case, it was actually a pretty good one. Best part of the episode imo.
Not bad.
I've always assumed Valyrian steel was made off smelted dragon bones, hence why both have black polish (in the book). Once he figures this out, he'll raven it to King's Landing where the Dany + Stark super team would be gathered after taking out cersei. Dany would be like "I ain't killing my dragons to make swords." Cut to Arya "you need dragon bones? I know where to find them" with Varys smiling while raising a Spock eyebrow.
No, they really didn't.
Show watchers didn't need you to provide context. All they HAD to know was that Jon was Lyanna's son, not Ned's. They would probably get a more complete explanation next year without your help.
m_shortpants
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Yeah I legit feel really bad for Tommen. Completely abused all throughout his life 
I believe we get Jaime's redemption arc starting now. He's probably going to side with Tyrion and not aid her.
I believe we get Jaime's redemption arc starting now. He's probably going to side with Tyrion and not aid her.
No he's not. He's near as guilty of war crimes as Tywin.
He used littlefinger's teleporter.
Jorah won't find a cure, but he'll find someone that knows how to make dragon glass.
My God. That was a finale. Miguel Sapochnik and Jack Bender absolutely owned this season. It started off rough with the worst opening episode in possibly the entire series, and took awhile to get going, but once it hit The Door, other than a misstep in No One, it's been going strong, and the last two episodes were really spectacular. The framing of the shots in the finale were really beautiful. Great transitions too. Loved the haunting music tracks at the beginning and end.
The Arya Pie stuff felt like total fanservice though. I guess we have to assume that most of her Braavos stuff happened much earlier, and she has possibly been back in Westeros for a while now? That's the only way to really explain it. It's not unusual that one character's story arc doesn't take place along the exact same timeline, but it was definitely odd placement.
Lady Mormont continues to be the MVP of the North. What would Jon do without her? I think he has found his future wife right there. Sorry Dany, but... the North remembers!
This shot of Dorne is probably my favorite visual scene in the entire episode, of which there were a ton of great scenes. That's how I wanted every scene of Dorne to look like in the series, but alas, it seems only some directors can nail it. So pretty. I loved how the Bad Pussies were told to stfu too. Lol!
The Citadel stuff with Sam was OMG. Totally didn't expect that given that we're at the end of the season, but they fucking did it. The white city of Oldtown, the great Citadel of the Maesters, the library. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. So good.
So now we have Cersei as Queen of the Seven Kingdoms. Eventually we'll probably have Sansa as Queen of the North when Jon finds some excuse to bail out, maybe when Bran tells him his true parentage. We have the matriarch of Highgarden, the bad pussies of Dorne, and the mother of dragons all in one team. Season 7 is definitely shaping up to be a War of Queens.
The Arya Pie stuff felt like total fanservice though. I guess we have to assume that most of her Braavos stuff happened much earlier, and she has possibly been back in Westeros for a while now? That's the only way to really explain it. It's not unusual that one character's story arc doesn't take place along the exact same timeline, but it was definitely odd placement.
Lady Mormont continues to be the MVP of the North. What would Jon do without her? I think he has found his future wife right there. Sorry Dany, but... the North remembers!
This shot of Dorne is probably my favorite visual scene in the entire episode, of which there were a ton of great scenes. That's how I wanted every scene of Dorne to look like in the series, but alas, it seems only some directors can nail it. So pretty. I loved how the Bad Pussies were told to stfu too. Lol!
The Citadel stuff with Sam was OMG. Totally didn't expect that given that we're at the end of the season, but they fucking did it. The white city of Oldtown, the great Citadel of the Maesters, the library. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. So good.
So now we have Cersei as Queen of the Seven Kingdoms. Eventually we'll probably have Sansa as Queen of the North when Jon finds some excuse to bail out, maybe when Bran tells him his true parentage. We have the matriarch of Highgarden, the bad pussies of Dorne, and the mother of dragons all in one team. Season 7 is definitely shaping up to be a War of Queens.
MagicWithEarvin
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Yeah I legit feel really bad for Tommen. Completely abused all throughout his life
I believe we get Jaime's redemption arc starting now. He's probably going to side with Tyrion and not aid her.
Will Jaime go for a double whammy and be a Queenslayer too?
He's already legitimized. He's not going to go around as King Jon Snow.
He's King Jon Stark now
m_shortpants
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So other than being Queen mother, what claim does Cersei have to the throne? Just being the most powerful force in KL?
I'm going to miss Ayatollah Bernie Sanders. His anecdotes and pontifications were fun this last season and a half.
I completely thought they were going to show some little tiny library.
But the show redeemed itself.
Nice little touch on the chains on each book.
Over all, best season ending in the series.
...and it's up there in the top 5 episodes for me.
I never really thought of it until it was on screen but the Citadel as ivory tower is a little on the nose.
Being the most powerful force in KL has always been the only claim that matters.
Being the most powerful force in KL has always been the only claim that matters.
m_shortpants
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Jon stark = geralt of rivia confirmed?
Also, Jaime totally sees the Mad King in Cersei huh? Seeing the exploded Sept and then her...oh boy
Ooo dis gun b good
Also, Jaime totally sees the Mad King in Cersei huh? Seeing the exploded Sept and then her...oh boy
Ooo dis gun b good
MagicWithEarvin
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Every scene in the finale, minus Dorne and the Sansa/LF exchange, felt like it could've been the ending of the episode.
He's not gone, though. It's just not going to be weird when he's not present in some of Dany's scenes next season.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The look of a man who suddenly realizes he didn't know who he's been fucking with.
darkwing-buck
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The Wild Hunt is coming.
I would not be surprised if he never appears in the show again.
People didn't even get that baby was supposed to be Jon Snow and some people forgot who is who.
Like Insaid I had to explain not only the Rargar part but the Lyanna part too
He needs bone some sorceresses to earn that title
Wait... what? We're not going back to Meereen. Daario still being in show would be the most shocking thing D&D would have ever come up with.
I totally forgot about the Arya scene being a callback to Bran's story about the Rat Cook.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VV5txCNDco0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VV5txCNDco0
Jaime kills Cersei and then heads north to duel Tortmund for his one true love Brienne.
Sansa makes a new cape for Littlefinger, she makes him promise to wear it as a token of love for her. It looks so ridiculous that nobody takes him seriously anymore, Lord Baelish out.
Meli retires from sorcery & magic and opens up a life coaching service. The hound is her first client, she explains to him that fire actually only hurts if he gets too close to it by making him walk on burning coal. Empowered by this revelation, he defeats the mountain in a UFC style cage surrounded by flames.
Not one to be one-upped by his brother and his friends from beyond the wall, Bran crosses the wall and brings even more friends with him. He then equips his VR set for one last time and says goodbye to the real world.
Daenerys & Jon soon become raven penpals upon her arrival. It is soon discovered though that it was ser hypeman davos that was actually writing the letters and the relationship quickly crumbles.
Ser Jerah Mormont has failed his quest and is now a Goron.
Sansa makes a new cape for Littlefinger, she makes him promise to wear it as a token of love for her. It looks so ridiculous that nobody takes him seriously anymore, Lord Baelish out.
Meli retires from sorcery & magic and opens up a life coaching service. The hound is her first client, she explains to him that fire actually only hurts if he gets too close to it by making him walk on burning coal. Empowered by this revelation, he defeats the mountain in a UFC style cage surrounded by flames.
Not one to be one-upped by his brother and his friends from beyond the wall, Bran crosses the wall and brings even more friends with him. He then equips his VR set for one last time and says goodbye to the real world.
Daenerys & Jon soon become raven penpals upon her arrival. It is soon discovered though that it was ser hypeman davos that was actually writing the letters and the relationship quickly crumbles.
Ser Jerah Mormont has failed his quest and is now a Goron.
Pretty much. If I had my druthers, I'd have ended it with Cercei on the throne. Loved that scene.
Yeah Daario is effectively off the show now. Maybe a scene here or there similar to Dorne, but I don't expect to see him much at all, unless he abandons his post.
MAYBE if Jorah does find a cure and he heads back to Mireen and then Daario sends him on his way. That's about it.
MAYBE if Jorah does find a cure and he heads back to Mireen and then Daario sends him on his way. That's about it.
Calm waterfall
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Motherfucking Little Finger will try to kill John.
Gunslinger
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So the next season is end of lannisters. And final season is the Human vs whitewalker.
Fun episode but really hammy direction in order to get really silly staged shots. It worked for the opening but made the whole episode feel like a weird surreal montage. Shots like cersei on the throne and a slow zoom out while everyone just stands there silent, could be a strong shot, but with an episode where every scene has a shot like that, it feels silly and hammy.
I've given up long ago on this show even attempting to honor distance and time.
I also remain disappointing by how this season failed to meaningfully build new relationships. Tyrion being Dany's hand doesn't feel earned, the northmen declaring for Jon doesn't feel earned, the red woman being sent off doesn't feel earned (becuase she sat out this whole season after reviving jon, it took them forever to even have an anemic conversation about his Resurrection, let alone ever give an initial justification for resurrecting him). So I feel like a lot of, what could have been, great moments just came off cliche because there wasn't enough characterization to justify what was happening. It's just hitting the beats.
I've given up long ago on this show even attempting to honor distance and time.
I also remain disappointing by how this season failed to meaningfully build new relationships. Tyrion being Dany's hand doesn't feel earned, the northmen declaring for Jon doesn't feel earned, the red woman being sent off doesn't feel earned (becuase she sat out this whole season after reviving jon, it took them forever to even have an anemic conversation about his Resurrection, let alone ever give an initial justification for resurrecting him). So I feel like a lot of, what could have been, great moments just came off cliche because there wasn't enough characterization to justify what was happening. It's just hitting the beats.
I'd bet my left eye that we see him again.
MagicWithEarvin
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I actually thought it was gonna end there, but of course they gotta have another epic Dany scene that ends the episode.
But why? Just to check in on Bay of Dragons? I don't really see much point considering how few episodes are left and how no one cares about Daario or Meereen.
Another one of my favorite scenes in the finale, this time for the camera work doing visual narrative:
When Jon and Sansa first meet, they're clearly framed to be divided. There is something separating them, which in the scene is the lack of trust because she didn't tell him about the knights of the Vale.
They each get a chance to open the dialogue on their own terms, and it's beautifully framed to show their individual identities against the backdrop.
As Sansa apologizes for not telling Jon, they grow closer and the shots begin to include the other subject in the frame as well, but out of focus.
Jon accepts what Sansa says and begins to walk towards her, bringing them close together.
Finally we see the two in a single frame in focus, with Sansa as the subject of the shot.
And Jon embraces her, reuniting the two again, resolving their differences.
When Jon and Sansa first meet, they're clearly framed to be divided. There is something separating them, which in the scene is the lack of trust because she didn't tell him about the knights of the Vale.
They each get a chance to open the dialogue on their own terms, and it's beautifully framed to show their individual identities against the backdrop.
As Sansa apologizes for not telling Jon, they grow closer and the shots begin to include the other subject in the frame as well, but out of focus.
Jon accepts what Sansa says and begins to walk towards her, bringing them close together.
Finally we see the two in a single frame in focus, with Sansa as the subject of the shot.
And Jon embraces her, reuniting the two again, resolving their differences.
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